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All Blacks vs England 2

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  • M Machpants

    How awesome is it to have a coach that actually answers questions? Razor winning there I think

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    How awesome is it to have a coach that actually answers questions? Razor winning there I think

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      Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

      A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

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      • F frugby

        Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

        A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

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        @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

        A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

        Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

        Except Finau.

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          @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

          Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

          A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

          Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

          Except Finau.

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          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

          @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

          Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

          A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

          Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

          Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct.

          He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

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            Machpants
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            A wins a win and I love it, but that performance is a big loss versus boks

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            • gt12G gt12

              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

              A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

              Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

              Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct.

              He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

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              @gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

              A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

              Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

              Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct. He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

              You'll need an elephant gun to scare PSDT. Having said that the ABs have done well against the nasty Boks by innovating and collapsing their lungs.

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                Frank
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                #1425

                Ratima coming on shows we should try to play fast as our basic plan.
                Giving DMac a fraction more time to make decisions makes a world of difference.
                This is our rugby style and and natural advantage that Super Rugby gives us.
                So use it.

                Christie is lauded for his kicking and defence - as if the other halfbacks can't tackle or kick.

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                  Nice to win the series but we've got two tests in South Africa and then England, Ireland and France away coming up.

                  We will need to find a lot more by then.

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                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/all-blacks-v-england-players-ratings-how-the-all-blacks-rated-in-24-17-win/BPY5B2MVZFGIPKP25OBZXZ5S2E/

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                      No Quarter
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                      #1428

                      Beauden started his career off the bench as a world class impact player. He could be very good for us at this stage of his career closing games coming on fresh with 20 to go.

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                        Any news on Samisoni Taukei'aho's injury?

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                          Jordan and Clarke on the wings will be a big step up

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            Beauden started his career off the bench as a world class impact player. He could be very good for us at this stage of his career closing games coming on fresh with 20 to go.

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                            gt12
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                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            Beauden started his career off the bench as a world class impact player. He could be very good for us at this stage if his career closing games coming on fresh with 20 to go.

                            That one kick fucked me right off, but apart from that he was magic - looked like BB from 9 years ago. Maybe a 23 jersey will give him the capability to influence the game using his strengths late in the game.

                            He's really very similar to Savea. Both have been the best player in the world based on their Super form, but there is always a question about whether their magic needs 80 minutes or is better condensed into 30-35 minutes against tiring legs (at least, at International level).

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                              We have no loose forward ball carrier, and England had two in Cunningham-Smith and Earls.
                              I'd bench Savea to cover 7 and 8 to be used as an impact player and start Sititi at 8
                              Papalii is an 80 minute player.
                              6??? - Blackadder or Vaii

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                              @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              We have no loose forward ball carrier, and England had two in Cunningham-Smith and Earls.
                              I'd bench Savea to cover 7 and 8 to be used as an impact player and start Sititi at 8
                              Papalii is an 80 minute player.
                              6??? - Blackadder or Vaii

                              I was thinking Savea could be dynamite off the bench. He tends to explode then get buried. And we need better lineout options.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                Beauden started his career off the bench as a world class impact player. He could be very good for us at this stage if his career closing games coming on fresh with 20 to go.

                                That one kick fucked me right off, but apart from that he was magic - looked like BB from 9 years ago. Maybe a 23 jersey will give him the capability to influence the game using his strengths late in the game.

                                He's really very similar to Savea. Both have been the best player in the world based on their Super form, but there is always a question about whether their magic needs 80 minutes or is better condensed into 30-35 minutes against tiring legs (at least, at International level).

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                                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                Beauden started his career off the bench as a world class impact player. He could be very good for us at this stage if his career closing games coming on fresh with 20 to go.

                                That one kick fucked me right off, but apart from that he was magic - looked like BB from 9 years ago. Maybe a 23 jersey will give him the capability to influence the game using his strengths late in the game.

                                He's really very similar to Savea. Both have been the best player in the world based on their Super form, but there is always a question about whether their magic needs 80 minutes or is better condensed into 30-35 minutes against tiring legs (at least, at International level).

                                Seems to me BB has lost that crazy instant speed but is still fast enough for 10 and serviceable at 15. And I suspect his last season's final AB games he was a bit more ginger/carrying niggles but that is no longer an issue. So he is paying back their confidence in his selection. Off the bench again he is a genuine asset.

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                                  @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                  A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                  Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                  Except Finau.

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                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                  A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                  Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                  Except Finau.

                                  Papalii doesn't seem bullied that often, isn't exactly a twig.

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                    A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                    Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                    Except Finau.

                                    Papalii doesn't seem bullied that often, isn't exactly a twig.

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                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                    A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                    Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                    Except Finau.

                                    Papalii doesn't seem bullied that often, isn't exactly a twig.

                                    Also bigger, but is our 7.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                      A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                      Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                      Except Finau.

                                      Papalii doesn't seem bullied that often, isn't exactly a twig.

                                      Also bigger, but is our 7.

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                                      Old Samurai Jack
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                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

                                      A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

                                      Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

                                      Except Finau.

                                      Papalii doesn't seem bullied that often, isn't exactly a twig.

                                      Also bigger, but is our 7.

                                      Yet, Rassie has followed our lead, with a pilfering 8 but munter 6 and 7s. Anyway, I think Finau will be very good but needs time. Papalii continues to grow, Blackadder is the most natural, but is always broken.
                                      Sotutu will be in the squad later but he tends to go missing when the heavy lifting is needed (see the Brumbies semi- I am sure that was a factor).

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                                          Razor could be a villain in a batman flick

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