Euro 2024
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One too many comebacks required. Kane should never have started. Spain were brilliant all tournament and richly deserve that. Their only weakness is morata.
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Better than I expected from England
Southgate should have made substitutions earlier
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Hope Williams signs for a premier league team. He is great!
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England eventually getting found out - players are good enough but they didn't really have a method of creating chances. In the end, the most successful tactic was pumping it upfield and hoping it fell for them. Good that Southgate made the changes but I think he should have thrown on someone like Gordon on the left as Carvajal strolled through game without a threat. Anyway, the best team in the tournament and on the night won and that doesn't happen often
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England had their moments in the tournament based on individual athleticism and instincts, but they rarely if ever outplayed teams or broke them down.
Spain were excellent, including in the final. A very well organised and skilful team. Nico Williams was outstanding last night. The right team won.
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Better team won, I think ultimately our selection of Kane, on the basis of hope more than recent form was what cost us, his lack of movement meant Bellingham and Foden just had no movement or space in front of them. Don’t know how much of this is a cautious Southgate vs a balance of the attack. Not sure whether I want us to change Southgate, but maybe Eddie Howe would have us playing better football but there’s a lot to be said for the environment GS has created. Not as gutted as four years ago, we didn’t deserve it
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For the regular football watchers, was Kane knackered and/or injured?
I ask because he was scoring goals for fun at Bayern this season with what looked like a real spring in his step
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For the regular football watchers, was Kane knackered and/or injured?
I ask because he was scoring goals for fun at Bayern this season with what looked like a real spring in his step
@MiketheSnow Didn't manage a flat out sprint all tournament. He fairly obviously had some sort of hamstring injury.
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Better team won, I think ultimately our selection of Kane, on the basis of hope more than recent form was what cost us, his lack of movement meant Bellingham and Foden just had no movement or space in front of them. Don’t know how much of this is a cautious Southgate vs a balance of the attack. Not sure whether I want us to change Southgate, but maybe Eddie Howe would have us playing better football but there’s a lot to be said for the environment GS has created. Not as gutted as four years ago, we didn’t deserve it
@Dodge England's corners and free kicks were very poor all tournament. Partly that's the fault of Phil Foden and partly that's the fault of Asssitant Manager Steve Holland.
The goal straight after half time was a killer for England. Soft defending letting Yamal beat three players and giving Williams far too much space. I think Trent Alexander Arnold is a better Right Back than Kyle Walker these days.
Going forward they will need to find a way to start both Saka and Palmer. Phil Foden needs to start enjoying playing international football. Jude Bellingham needs to learn about Tana Umaga and spend more time on his feet rather than on the floor.
I think the FA will offer Gareth Southgate two more years and see if he accepts. There isn't really a strong replacement waiting in the wings. I'd like to look at them bringing in better assistant coaches than Steve Holland and Jimmy Floyd Haselbank. Paul Clement and Graham Potter are available who are very good coaches but are behind Southgate in terms of man management and dealing with the media.
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For the regular football watchers, was Kane knackered and/or injured?
I ask because he was scoring goals for fun at Bayern this season with what looked like a real spring in his step
@MiketheSnow It's the style of play these guys struggle to adapt to. A bit different when you have guys like Pep, Arteta, Tuchel, Ancelotti etc playing to your strengths and then having to play under a former failed Middlesbrough manager.
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An interesting stat is that Croatia had a higher tournament xG (expected goals) than England having played 3 games against England's 7. For the whole tournament, England went long stretches without doing anything at all and their goals largely came out of the blue. They should have gone home losing to Slovakia in the last 16, they were awful in that game and rescued by a freakish piece of brilliance. I imagine if Bellingham's overhead kick had ended up in row Z, Southgate would have already resigned.
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Outside of Alf Ramsey who won silverware, Southgate is the most successful England manager by a country mile
We know he’s not lucky so he must be good
And he’s had to manage some bang average players and taken them deep in tournament after tournament
