All Blacks vs England 2
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Phew, I think I care more about Eden Park record than world cups. I was there for the try from the end of the world.
It’s funny , my first two test matches live were both losses at eden park ,
One to the Aussies and one to the frogs in the 70s
Wow AB's have only ever lost 13 games at EP and two of them were your first tests.
Cornelsens Test (worst defeat) and the Bastille Day loss.
We've only lost twice since that July in 79
First 20 of the second half on Saturday and I thought we were going to again.
@dogmeat said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Phew, I think I care more about Eden Park record than world cups. I was there for the try from the end of the world.
It’s funny , my first two test matches live were both losses at eden park ,
One to the Aussies and one to the frogs in the 70s
Wow AB's have only ever lost 13 games at EP and two of them were your first tests.
Cornelsens Test (worst defeat) and the Bastille Day loss.
We've only lost twice since that July in 79
First 20 of the second half on Saturday and I thought we were going to again.
Yeah , they were the two tests , cornelson test 78 and the Jean Pierre Reves captained frogs in 79 .
If you have asked me about the eden park fortresses at the time I would have laughed , I was 0-2
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
"beer" needs inverted commas
‘Steinlager ultra low carb’
Yep, congrats brewers, you made a shite beer even worse
The pressures of being an All Black are immense. Being forced to drink that would tip me over the edge
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
That man has big hands, makes that can look small. I must also have big hands, which would explain a lot
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
That man has big hands, makes that can look small. I must also have big hands, which would explain a lot
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
That man has big hands, makes that can look small. I must also have big hands, which would explain a lot
That if you wear gloves they need to be big ?
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Take out Scott, Jordie and Beauden we would have lost.
100%@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Take out Scott, Jordie and Beauden we would have lost.
100%So true.
12 against 15 would have been too big an ask.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
That man has big hands, makes that can look small. I must also have big hands, which would explain a lot
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
That man has big hands, makes that can look small. I must also have big hands, which would explain a lot
It's actually nose length according to studies.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
That man has big hands, makes that can look small. I must also have big hands, which would explain a lot
It's actually nose length according to studies.
@Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
That man has big hands, makes that can look small. I must also have big hands, which would explain a lot
It's actually nose length according to studies.
Your studies?
But my nose has been compared to a squashed strawberry, so sounds accurate to me
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@Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
That man has big hands, makes that can look small. I must also have big hands, which would explain a lot
It's actually nose length according to studies.
Your studies?
But my nose has been compared to a squashed strawberry, so sounds accurate to me
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Is no-one going to attack the ball on the ground?
Unless Reece is in the vicinity, we are simply not doing it on any regular basis. The odd occasion with Papali’i or Taylor. England didn’t really do it either.
For the most part our attendance to the collision was very good. We made it hard for them to get their hands on the ball.
I think we have banked on trying to drive over the ball given how most refs officiate the tackle/ruck.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Take out Scott, Jordie and Beauden we would have lost.
100%So true.
12 against 15 would have been too big an ask.
@dogmeat said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Take out Scott, Jordie and Beauden we would have lost.
100%So true.
12 against 15 would have been too big an ask.
I thought I had a mortgage on the dad jokes.
Beaudie is due a red card to join his brothers though…
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@dogmeat said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Take out Scott, Jordie and Beauden we would have lost.
100%So true.
12 against 15 would have been too big an ask.
I thought I had a mortgage on the dad jokes.
Beaudie is due a red card to join his brothers though…
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England 2:
I thought I had a mortgage on the dad jokes.
Really? Are you the Loan Ranger?
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:
That's an interesting take considering at one stage the handling errors were England 4, NZ 9 (just before NZ made another handling error). Think it was even before halftime?
You can't quote such statistics out of context. If we knock the ball on while trying a miracle play under advantage, I really don't care that it is an "error" to the bean counters.
We lost a lot of balls forward while trying to steal their ball at lineouts or rucks. Sure, those are "handling errors" because they result in scrums etc, but since we weren't winning the ball otherwise they are of no concern.
You watched the game, presumably. How many balls did we shell forward where we had possession and which resulted in an actual turnover? Because I don't recall it being many.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs England 2:
You watched the game, presumably.
This is the Fern, that is indeed a presumption.
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Man, I know he used to be everyone's favourite player but the hyperbole on BB's performance is a bit crazy. Did some really good things for sure, but also put a kick into touch on the full, kicked the ball away aimlessly when we had an overlap, and put in one of his usual dog-shit exits. Total rocks and diamonds, but I'm reading 10/10 performance and some saying he has game management and ought to be starting at 10 - sorry but that's fucking mad - he has always played good cameos against tired legs, and he has never displayed good game management despite a shitload of opportunities.
Ratima, as expected, made a big difference to everything happening outside him. Backs need fast ball. I can only wonder whether we've become complacent about that fact due to having Smith for so long. Christie played well and is a super defender, but he just isn't what we need.
McKenzie continues to create most of our oportunities.
That's the worst I've seen Telea play. You don't pick him for pace, but you still need him to finish that movement somehow, or at the least recycle, not throw the ball away. Yeah Perofeta should have gone the other way, but that is a smaller error than Telea's. Aside from that, he was targeted by the poms positionally, and looked like an 18 year old Jonah vs France on defence.
Savea hasn't been top 3 loosies in either game. World player of not-this-year so far. Finau quiet, but expectations on him ought to be a bit lower.
Lineout was terrible. Very, very lucky to get away with a win against a top tier team when we turned that much ball over.
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@Machpants
Google is your friend.
Or, in your case, possibly not.@Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants
Google is your friend.
Or, in your case, possibly not.That reeks sooo much of...
"Do your own research.
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... until you find something which fits your desired result/thesis." -
@Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants
Google is your friend.
Or, in your case, possibly not.That reeks sooo much of...
"Do your own research.
... again...
... again...
... and again...
... until you find something which fits your desired result/thesis."@Kruse said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Machpants
Google is your friend.
Or, in your case, possibly not.That reeks sooo much of...
"Do your own research.
... again...
... again...
... and again...
... until you find something which fits your desired result/thesis."Yeah my research shows it's actually dick length.
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Not often I agree with Justin Marshall
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Not often I agree with Justin Marshall
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@kev I don't think he needs to be issued an ultimatum. Think we just need to give it time to see if it does evolve (midfield).
Of far more concern is the lineout... but that's led by 2 crusaders so probably don't need an ultimatum there
@Bones yep I agree - coaches need to work on him, not replace him. He is a natural runner so his first instinct is to get up to speed and then look. Better to know the space is there and pass on instinct. Good thing was they created more room in the 2nd test.
The lineout was a mess but confident they will sort it - everything including once they had the ball.
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@Bones yep I agree - coaches need to work on him, not replace him. He is a natural runner so his first instinct is to get up to speed and then look. Better to know the space is there and pass on instinct. Good thing was they created more room in the 2nd test.
The lineout was a mess but confident they will sort it - everything including once they had the ball.
@kev said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Bones yep I agree - coaches need to work on him, not replace him. He is a natural runner so his first instinct is to get up to speed and then look. Better to know the space is there and pass on instinct. Good thing was they created more room in the 2nd test.
The lineout was a mess but confident they will sort it - everything including once they had the ball.
How much longer does Reiko need. Before the coaches accept the obvious. Hes not a center.
