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All Blacks vs Fiji

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    For the most egregious example of not passing in front of the man but to his body, watch the All Blacks' game against Italy from 2021 (I think it was) where Brad Weber went off early and Finlay Christie took his place. NZ struggled so much in that game and a massive factor was Christie's consistently terrible passing. Thank God for the rolling maul...

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      When Mark Shaw was 20, he was playing for Belsize Park RFC in London. Rare was the Saturday when the opposing forward pack was not enraged and outraged. He had a talent for generating power with a punch that travelled no more than 12 inches.

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        That seems an under strength Fijian team too. No Botia Tuisova Matavesi Masi Ravutaumada etc. Are both teams treating this like a bit of an exhibition match? Could be plenty of action if they do. But not so good for the diehard fans who want to see all the best players from both teams.

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        @ARHS said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

        That seems an under strength Fijian team too. No Botia Tuisova Matavesi Masi Ravutaumada etc. Are both teams treating this like a bit of an exhibition match? Could be plenty of action if they do. But not so good for the diehard fans who want to see all the best players from both teams.

        Blackadder and Proctor are playing….

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          @ARHS said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

          That seems an under strength Fijian team too. No Botia Tuisova Matavesi Masi Ravutaumada etc. Are both teams treating this like a bit of an exhibition match? Could be plenty of action if they do. But not so good for the diehard fans who want to see all the best players from both teams.

          Blackadder and Proctor are playing….

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          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

          @ARHS said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

          That seems an under strength Fijian team too. No Botia Tuisova Matavesi Masi Ravutaumada etc. Are both teams treating this like a bit of an exhibition match? Could be plenty of action if they do. But not so good for the diehard fans who want to see all the best players from both teams.

          Blackadder and Proctor are playing….

          Anything less than Blackadder walking on water post match to cross to Mexico is a failure

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            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

            @ARHS said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

            That seems an under strength Fijian team too. No Botia Tuisova Matavesi Masi Ravutaumada etc. Are both teams treating this like a bit of an exhibition match? Could be plenty of action if they do. But not so good for the diehard fans who want to see all the best players from both teams.

            Blackadder and Proctor are playing….

            Anything less than Blackadder walking on water post match to cross to Mexico is a failure

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            @bayimports said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

            @ARHS said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

            That seems an under strength Fijian team too. No Botia Tuisova Matavesi Masi Ravutaumada etc. Are both teams treating this like a bit of an exhibition match? Could be plenty of action if they do. But not so good for the diehard fans who want to see all the best players from both teams.

            Blackadder and Proctor are playing….

            Anything less than Blackadder walking on water post match to cross to Mexico is a failure

            I heard he actually took out the Trump sniper while warming up for training.

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              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

              @Frank said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

              @1kiwi said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

              I'm not a fan of Jordie at 12 anyway. Think he is better utilized off the bench imo. Don't think ALB is the answer either. Think he is past his best at international level now.

              So with Jordie on the bench and ALB past his best, who starts at 12 in your team?

              Lam?!

              replacing one makeshift 12 with another?

              Rush defence makes midfields look bad. We know this. The hate on Rieko and JB is surprising - I don't think others would do better. There is no magical back with Conrad passing quality availble, combined with a physical blend of Ngatai and Rupeni. Look at the knockout rugby games from last year - if you get to 20 points, you're almost certainly going to win. Getting to 10 is bloody hard. Defences are very very good now. We have to reset expectations a bit

              now hang on, I'm not saying Lam should be the incumbent 12, I'd just like to see him play (and not nec. in major games), and as for makeshift 12, he's no David Havili!

              I like the look of Lam at 12, but I think he's played 3 or 4 games there at Super - as a makeshift. Going straight into the ABs doesn't seem right - you'd want some experience there surely.

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              @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

              I like the look of Lam at 12, but I think he's played 3 or 4 games there at Super - as a makeshift. Going straight into the ABs doesn't seem right - you'd want some experience there surely.

              I can wait 🙂
              I'll qualify all my future "would like to see"

              I rate JB and R Ioane - still think tactics could favour them better, but against England it was basically trench warfare.
              If only we had an extra lineout forward, maybe someone who was good at basketball and also rather handy at lineout in Super and dynamic around the field...

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                I'd like to see an AJ Lam - Tanielu Telea combination for the All Blacks XV, with Tavatavanawai on the right wing. This could be fun to watch.

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                @cgrant Perfect for Fiji.

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                  @cgrant Perfect for Fiji.

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                  @pakman
                  None of them are in the squad, that's why I made the suggestion for the All Blacks XV.

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                    @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                    I like the look of Lam at 12, but I think he's played 3 or 4 games there at Super - as a makeshift. Going straight into the ABs doesn't seem right - you'd want some experience there surely.

                    I can wait 🙂
                    I'll qualify all my future "would like to see"

                    I rate JB and R Ioane - still think tactics could favour them better, but against England it was basically trench warfare.
                    If only we had an extra lineout forward, maybe someone who was good at basketball and also rather handy at lineout in Super and dynamic around the field...

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                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                    I like the look of Lam at 12, but I think he's played 3 or 4 games there at Super - as a makeshift. Going straight into the ABs doesn't seem right - you'd want some experience there surely.

                    I can wait 🙂
                    I'll qualify all my future "would like to see"

                    I rate JB and R Ioane - still think tactics could favour them better, but against England it was basically trench warfare.
                    If only we had an extra lineout forward, maybe someone who was good at basketball and also rather handy at lineout in Super and dynamic around the field...

                    Someone get in touch with Vaea Fifita

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                      @pakman
                      None of them are in the squad, that's why I made the suggestion for the All Blacks XV.

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                      @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                      @pakman
                      None of them are in the squad, that's why I made the suggestion for the All Blacks XV.

                      Sorry, I am in the wrong thread.

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                        How are UK Ferners planning to watch?

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                          @pakman
                          None of them are in the squad, that's why I made the suggestion for the All Blacks XV.

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                          @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                          @pakman
                          None of them are in the squad, that's why I made the suggestion for the All Blacks XV.

                          I know, but those fellas playing Fiji would be matching fire with fire!

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                            How are UK Ferners planning to watch?

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                            @pakman said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                            How are UK Ferners planning to watch?

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                              I'm looking forward to this one just to see how Razor adjusts the gameplan to address the weaknesses vs England. Clearly a different opposition but I hope they work hard on exits, lineouts and gain line success close to the ruck.

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                @ARHS said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                That seems an under strength Fijian team too. No Botia Tuisova Matavesi Masi Ravutaumada etc. Are both teams treating this like a bit of an exhibition match? Could be plenty of action if they do. But not so good for the diehard fans who want to see all the best players from both teams.

                                Blackadder and Proctor are playing….

                                Anything less than Blackadder walking on water post match to cross to Mexico is a failure

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                                @bayimports said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                Anything less than Blackadder walking on water post match to cross to Mexico is a failure

                                But it's a brilliant road trip. I did err when I thought the first female hitchiker on the way down from San Diego said "Do ya wanta"?

                                Great combo, Niggles and the Proctologist.

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                                  Ma’a is too cool for school. Geez it’s been years and I still miss him. Hasn’t been adequately replaced at 12

                                  Both him and Mils look like they could still run out for the ABs and carve up.

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                                    Ma’a is too cool for school. Geez it’s been years and I still miss him. Hasn’t been adequately replaced at 12

                                    Both him and Mils look like they could still run out for the ABs and carve up.

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                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                    Ma’a is too cool for school.

                                    Both him and Mils look like they could still run out for the ABs and carve up.

                                    he did say he was still playing? Still looks bloody strong. Man, we've had trouble replacing him!

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                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                      Ma’a is too cool for school.

                                      Both him and Mils look like they could still run out for the ABs and carve up.

                                      he did say he was still playing? Still looks bloody strong. Man, we've had trouble replacing him!

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                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

                                      Ma’a is too cool for school.

                                      Both him and Mils look like they could still run out for the ABs and carve up.

                                      he did say he was still playing? Still looks bloody strong. Man, we've had trouble replacing him!

                                      We haven’t. Jordie is a big step down

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                                        Nice tribute to Norm Hewitt there

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                                          The Fijians outpoint us in facial hair. This is going to be physical!

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