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Euro 2024

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Walker is a big surprise.

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    @Bovidae big surprise to who?

    People who didn’t watch? Or England haters?

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      I think part of the hype is related to the English fans, especially, and media putting the EPL on such a pedestal. This means that the abilities of the English players are often inflated relative to players from other leagues/nationalities. How many would have heard of Fabián Ruiz or Mikel Oyarzabal before the Euros?

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      @Bovidae said in Euro 2024:

      I think part of the hype is related to the English fans, especially, and media putting the EPL on such a pedestal. This means that the abilities of the English players are often inflated relative to players from other leagues/nationalities. How many would have heard of Fabián Ruiz or Mikel Oyarzabal before the Euros?

      What? The EPL on a pedestal? The most watched annual league of the biggest sport, by a mile, on the planet?

      I’m not sure of your on this thread to wind up or just generally have no clue.

      I work with and socialize with season ticket holders to Arsenal, spurs, Chelsea, United, palace and qpr. None of them rave about the English players, and all of them you could name a top league player anywhere snd they’ll know.

      The hype, the mania, is a country getting behind a team. And it’s fantastic. I know not one person who thought it was coming home. There was hope, yes, but deep down not much confidence.

      But anything can, and will, happen in football. So all jump on the bandwagon. And it’s a fucking fun
      One to be on. Lots of hope without fear and expectation.

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        @Bovidae big surprise to who?

        People who didn’t watch? Or England haters?

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        @MajorRage Even the English media I've heard/read didn't think Walker had a great tournament. Was he better than say Carvajal or Koundé?

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          @canefan said in Euro 2024:

          Pretty good record. The game they play is pretty dire, but I think that is in the English DNA for a number of sports? Southgate favours toilers and athletes over X factor guys like Maddison (admittedly out of form since injury) and Grealish. I can recall the same mindset applied to Glenn Hoddle back in the day as well

          I reckon this is a bad take. A 'Cullen at centre' kind of take. Drop those carthorses like Bellingham and Foden for Maddison?

          Or move him to centreback?

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          @Rapido said in Euro 2024:

          @canefan said in Euro 2024:

          Pretty good record. The game they play is pretty dire, but I think that is in the English DNA for a number of sports? Southgate favours toilers and athletes over X factor guys like Maddison (admittedly out of form since injury) and Grealish. I can recall the same mindset applied to Glenn Hoddle back in the day as well

          I reckon this is a bad take. A 'Cullen at centre' kind of take. Drop those carthorses like Bellingham and Foden for Maddison?

          Or move him to centreback?

          Maybe maybe not. I did say Maddison is out of form. But the fact remains, England huff and puff a lot at the moment, but they don't score many goals

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            Jurgen Klopp has ruled himself out of the England job.

            https://twitter.com/plettigoal/status/1813591265994555676

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              The FA have put out the advert for the next England boss. The new boss won't have to be English but they will have to have significant experience with English qualified players.

              https://twitter.com/robharris/status/1814209071995629601

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                Hard to think of a single available and interested manager who meets all the criteria England are looking for.

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                  Hard to think of a single available and interested manager who meets all the criteria England are looking for.

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                  @sparky Potter?

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                    @sparky Potter?

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                    @African-Monkey said in Euro 2024:

                    @sparky Potter?

                    Fails on point 2

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                      @African-Monkey said in Euro 2024:

                      @sparky Potter?

                      Fails on point 2

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                      @canefan He's a good manager, just took the wrong gig at Chelsea.

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                        @canefan He's a good manager, just took the wrong gig at Chelsea.

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                        @African-Monkey said in Euro 2024:

                        @canefan He's a good manager, just took the wrong gig at Chelsea.

                        Not always comfortable with media scrutiny

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @African-Monkey said in Euro 2024:

                          @canefan He's a good manager, just took the wrong gig at Chelsea.

                          Not always comfortable with media scrutiny

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                          @canefan Fair.

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                            @sparky Potter?

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                            @African-Monkey Fails on 2 and 5.

                            I think it will be Poch or Tuchel based on the advert.

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                              @African-Monkey Fails on 2 and 5.

                              I think it will be Poch or Tuchel based on the advert.

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                              @sparky Would suprise me. Feel like they still have plenty to offer at club level.

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                                @canefan He's a good manager, just took the wrong gig at Chelsea.

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                                @African-Monkey I would have thought a return to club manager at a medium-sized club would suit Potter a lot better.

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                                  @sparky Would suprise me. Feel like they still have plenty to offer at club level.

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                                  @African-Monkey Tuchel seems to want it. Poch is out of work at the minute.

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                                    @African-Monkey I would have thought a return to club manager at a medium-sized club would suit Potter a lot better.

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                                    @sparky He got offered the Ajax gig but didn't take it. That did surprise me.

                                    But yeah, the West Ham gig or even back at Brighton would have been a good return to management for him.

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                                      Odds for next England manager

                                      Graham Potter 2/1 (English, ex Brighton and Chelsea)

                                      Eddie Howe 5/1 (English, Newcastle)

                                      Lee Carsley 6/1 (Irish, England Under 21s)

                                      Maurico Pochettino 8/1 (Argentine, ex- Southampton, Spurs, PSG and Chelsea)

                                      Thomas Tuchel 12/1 (German, ex-PSG, Chelsea and Bayern Munich)

                                      Frank Lampard 20-1 (English, ex-Chelsea and Everton)

                                      Jurgen Klopp 20-1 (German, ex-Liverpool)

                                      Pep Guardiola 20-1 (Basque, Man City, ex-Barcelona and Bayern Munich)

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                                      @sparky said in Euro 2024:

                                      Odds for next England manager

                                      Graham Potter 2/1 (English, ex Brighton and Chelsea)

                                      Eddie Howe 5/1 (English, Newcastle)

                                      Lee Carsley 6/1 (Irish, England Under 21s)

                                      Maurico Pochettino 8/1 (Argentine, ex- Southampton, Spurs, PSG and Chelsea)

                                      Thomas Tuchel 12/1 (German, ex-PSG, Chelsea and Bayern Munich)

                                      Frank Lampard 20-1 (English, ex-Chelsea and Everton)

                                      Jurgen Klopp 20-1 (German, ex-Liverpool)

                                      Pep Guardiola 20-1 (Basque, Man City, ex-Barcelona and Bayern Munich)

                                      Ange Postecoglou ?

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                                        @sparky said in Euro 2024:

                                        Odds for next England manager

                                        Graham Potter 2/1 (English, ex Brighton and Chelsea)

                                        Eddie Howe 5/1 (English, Newcastle)

                                        Lee Carsley 6/1 (Irish, England Under 21s)

                                        Maurico Pochettino 8/1 (Argentine, ex- Southampton, Spurs, PSG and Chelsea)

                                        Thomas Tuchel 12/1 (German, ex-PSG, Chelsea and Bayern Munich)

                                        Frank Lampard 20-1 (English, ex-Chelsea and Everton)

                                        Jurgen Klopp 20-1 (German, ex-Liverpool)

                                        Pep Guardiola 20-1 (Basque, Man City, ex-Barcelona and Bayern Munich)

                                        Ange Postecoglou ?

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                                        @booboo said in Euro 2024:

                                        @sparky said in Euro 2024:

                                        Odds for next England manager

                                        Graham Potter 2/1 (English, ex Brighton and Chelsea)

                                        Eddie Howe 5/1 (English, Newcastle)

                                        Lee Carsley 6/1 (Irish, England Under 21s)

                                        Maurico Pochettino 8/1 (Argentine, ex- Southampton, Spurs, PSG and Chelsea)

                                        Thomas Tuchel 12/1 (German, ex-PSG, Chelsea and Bayern Munich)

                                        Frank Lampard 20-1 (English, ex-Chelsea and Everton)

                                        Jurgen Klopp 20-1 (German, ex-Liverpool)

                                        Pep Guardiola 20-1 (Basque, Man City, ex-Barcelona and Bayern Munich)

                                        Ange Postecoglou ?

                                        Keep your hands off

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                                          One theory I've heard is that Lee Carsley or Steve Holland might do it for a year, then someone like Klopp, Postecoglou, Emery or Pep would come in after that.

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