Hurricanes 2025
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Ardie's confirmed as going.
This opens up backrow places for youngsters and frees up a lot of cash for keeping other players and for future signings.
Onwards and upwards. Go Black and Yellow!
@sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:
Ardie's confirmed as going.
This opens up backrow places for youngsters and frees up a lot of cash for keeping other players and for future signings.
Onwards and upwards. Go Black and Yellow!
How much cash would it open up? We never did anything when Beaudy left.
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@sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:
Ardie's confirmed as going.
This opens up backrow places for youngsters and frees up a lot of cash for keeping other players and for future signings.
Onwards and upwards. Go Black and Yellow!
Ardies turns 31 this year. So, not a huge loss he would been 5 years back. MP might get 1 or 2 years before age catches up
Hopefully MP can attract some other big names, Maybe RM if he returns
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@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:
Maybe RM if he returns
Back at the Crusaders when he returns.
Would be cool if he followed Ardie to MP. Has the Crusaders actually been confirmed? Wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same thing. He’s made enough impact at the Saders.
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@sparky said in Hurricanes 2025:
Ardie's confirmed as going.
This opens up backrow places for youngsters and frees up a lot of cash for keeping other players and for future signings.
Onwards and upwards. Go Black and Yellow!
How much cash would it open up? We never did anything when Beaudy left.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
How much cash would it open up? We never did anything when Beaudy left.
If Ardie is on the top tier SR contract that is $195,000 (minimum = $75,000). The difference could be used to increase other player's salaries.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
How much cash would it open up? We never did anything when Beaudy left.
If Ardie is on the top tier SR contract that is $195,000 (minimum = $75,000). The difference could be used to increase other player's salaries.
@Bovidae said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
How much cash would it open up? We never did anything when Beaudy left.
If Ardie is on the top tier SR contract that is $195,000 (minimum = $75,000). The difference could be used to increase other player's salaries.
Is the minimum that low? Wow that is shithouse.
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@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:
Maybe RM if he returns
Back at the Crusaders when he returns.
Would be cool if he followed Ardie to MP. Has the Crusaders actually been confirmed? Wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same thing. He’s made enough impact at the Saders.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:
Maybe RM if he returns
Back at the Crusaders when he returns.
Would be cool if he followed Ardie to MP. Has the Crusaders actually been confirmed? Wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same thing. He’s made enough impact at the Saders.
Yeah he is coming back to the Crusaders it looks like in 2026 he wants to be back with Family in CHCH then.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:
Maybe RM if he returns
Back at the Crusaders when he returns.
Would be cool if he followed Ardie to MP. Has the Crusaders actually been confirmed? Wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same thing. He’s made enough impact at the Saders.
Yeah he is coming back to the Crusaders it looks like in 2026 he wants to be back with Family in CHCH then.
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@Chris fair call. The recent passing of his Dad would have put life in perspective. Money isn’t everything at the end of the day, family is everything.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Chris fair call. The recent passing of his Dad would have put life in perspective. Money isn’t everything at the end of the day, family is everything.
Yeah a lot about his Mum and family.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Chris fair call. The recent passing of his Dad would have put life in perspective. Money isn’t everything at the end of the day, family is everything.
Yeah a lot about his Mum and family.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:
Maybe RM if he returns
Back at the Crusaders when he returns.
Would be cool if he followed Ardie to MP. Has the Crusaders actually been confirmed? Wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same thing. He’s made enough impact at the Saders.
Yeah he is coming back to the Crusaders it looks like in 2026 he wants to be back with Family in CHCH then.
@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:
Maybe RM if he returns
Back at the Crusaders when he returns.
Would be cool if he followed Ardie to MP. Has the Crusaders actually been confirmed? Wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same thing. He’s made enough impact at the Saders.
Yeah he is coming back to the Crusaders it looks like in 2026 he wants to be back with Family in CHCH then.
Would be awesome to see him join Moana but that does make sense. He will be 32 by then so you’d think Crusaders would have their plan B in place by the time Mo’unga returns. Can’t put all their eggs into one basket at that age.
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@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:
Maybe RM if he returns
Back at the Crusaders when he returns.
Would be cool if he followed Ardie to MP. Has the Crusaders actually been confirmed? Wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same thing. He’s made enough impact at the Saders.
Yeah he is coming back to the Crusaders it looks like in 2026 he wants to be back with Family in CHCH then.
Would be awesome to see him join Moana but that does make sense. He will be 32 by then so you’d think Crusaders would have their plan B in place by the time Mo’unga returns. Can’t put all their eggs into one basket at that age.
@Landers92 said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Chris said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2025:
Maybe RM if he returns
Back at the Crusaders when he returns.
Would be cool if he followed Ardie to MP. Has the Crusaders actually been confirmed? Wouldn’t be surprised if he did the same thing. He’s made enough impact at the Saders.
Yeah he is coming back to the Crusaders it looks like in 2026 he wants to be back with Family in CHCH then.
Would be awesome to see him join Moana but that does make sense. He will be 32 by then so y****ou’d think Crusaders would have their plan B in place by the time Mo’unga returns. Can’t put all their eggs into one basket at that age.
I would hope they do.
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Hurricanes say the roster is oretty much full for next year, and are close to signing a 10 to replace Morgan. https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350350577/hurricanes-factor-ardie-saveas-second-sabbatical-clause-exit-moana-pasifika
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Hurricanes say the roster is oretty much full for next year, and are close to signing a 10 to replace Morgan. https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350350577/hurricanes-factor-ardie-saveas-second-sabbatical-clause-exit-moana-pasifika
@SouthernMann said in Hurricanes 2025:
Hurricanes say the roster is oretty much full for next year, and are close to signing a 10 to replace Morgan. https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350350577/hurricanes-factor-ardie-saveas-second-sabbatical-clause-exit-moana-pasifika
I wonder if the new 10 is someone we haven't had before or if they are in talks with Jackson Garden-Bachop. I really hope it's a new 10 because we know JGB is a fairly limited player (similar to Cameron). I wonder if they are looking offshore as I can't think of many spare 10s running around New Zealand that would fit the bill.
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In a podcast released earlier today Ardie Savea was ready to sign on the dotted line for the Canes after the World Cup. Then his bro was released from the Canes (rightfully so) and that made him question his loyalty to the Canes and the fact he felt he wasn't specifically valued at the Canes.
Whether he denies it or not, Julian leaving is an obvious reason why he's gone to MP even if he tries to state otherwise. Doesn't he realise he's in a results driven business and players (no matter their reputation or loyalty) will be released if they aren't good enough. Good on him for doing what he thinks is right but I think it's a little precious of him to hold anything against the Canes for trying to improve their performance. It's a shame though because I think he probably would have felt more inclusive playing under Laidlaw than he would have playing under the limited Holland.
In saying all this, I think the Hurricanes CEO Avan Lee has a bit to answer for. You'd think for any business meeting you would invite Ardie's wife as part of that conversation. Apparently she was never brought in on any conversations with the ABs or Canes so maybe re-thinking about how he goes about things in terms of dealing with players is something he needs to work on.
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@SouthernMann said in Hurricanes 2025:
Hurricanes say the roster is oretty much full for next year, and are close to signing a 10 to replace Morgan. https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350350577/hurricanes-factor-ardie-saveas-second-sabbatical-clause-exit-moana-pasifika
I wonder if the new 10 is someone we haven't had before or if they are in talks with Jackson Garden-Bachop. I really hope it's a new 10 because we know JGB is a fairly limited player (similar to Cameron). I wonder if they are looking offshore as I can't think of many spare 10s running around New Zealand that would fit the bill.
@Canes4life I’m hearing the offer is for Lincoln McClutchie but he is on the fence about returning to Super Rugby
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In a podcast released earlier today Ardie Savea was ready to sign on the dotted line for the Canes after the World Cup. Then his bro was released from the Canes (rightfully so) and that made him question his loyalty to the Canes and the fact he felt he wasn't specifically valued at the Canes.
Whether he denies it or not, Julian leaving is an obvious reason why he's gone to MP even if he tries to state otherwise. Doesn't he realise he's in a results driven business and players (no matter their reputation or loyalty) will be released if they aren't good enough. Good on him for doing what he thinks is right but I think it's a little precious of him to hold anything against the Canes for trying to improve their performance. It's a shame though because I think he probably would have felt more inclusive playing under Laidlaw than he would have playing under the limited Holland.
In saying all this, I think the Hurricanes CEO Avan Lee has a bit to answer for. You'd think for any business meeting you would invite Ardie's wife as part of that conversation. Apparently she was never brought in on any conversations with the ABs or Canes so maybe re-thinking about how he goes about things in terms of dealing with players is something he needs to work on.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
In a podcast released earlier today Ardie Savea was ready to sign on the dotted line for the Canes after the World Cup. Then his bro was released from the Canes (rightfully so) and that made him question his loyalty to the Canes and the fact he felt he wasn't specifically valued at the Canes.
Whether he denies it or not, Julian leaving is an obvious reason why he's gone to MP even if he tries to state otherwise. Doesn't he realise he's in a results driven business and players (no matter their reputation or loyalty) will be released if they aren't good enough. Good on him for doing what he thinks is right but I think it's a little precious of him to hold anything against the Canes for trying to improve their performance. It's a shame though because I think he probably would have felt more inclusive playing under Laidlaw than he would have playing under the limited Holland.
In saying all this, I think the Hurricanes CEO Avan Lee has a bit to answer for. You'd think for any business meeting you would invite Ardie's wife as part of that conversation. Apparently she was never brought in on any conversations with the ABs or Canes so maybe re-thinking about how he goes about things in terms of dealing with players is something he needs to work on.
Julian was released by the Hurricanes well before the World Cup so either Ardie has got his timings wrong or he's telling fibs.
But also, why would you bring Ardie's wife into any conversations? That's not normal in any business environment, even in pro sport. Given he negotiated his last deal himself, maybe he should've told Avan Lee that he wanted his wife involved.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
In a podcast released earlier today Ardie Savea was ready to sign on the dotted line for the Canes after the World Cup. Then his bro was released from the Canes (rightfully so) and that made him question his loyalty to the Canes and the fact he felt he wasn't specifically valued at the Canes.
Whether he denies it or not, Julian leaving is an obvious reason why he's gone to MP even if he tries to state otherwise. Doesn't he realise he's in a results driven business and players (no matter their reputation or loyalty) will be released if they aren't good enough. Good on him for doing what he thinks is right but I think it's a little precious of him to hold anything against the Canes for trying to improve their performance. It's a shame though because I think he probably would have felt more inclusive playing under Laidlaw than he would have playing under the limited Holland.
In saying all this, I think the Hurricanes CEO Avan Lee has a bit to answer for. You'd think for any business meeting you would invite Ardie's wife as part of that conversation. Apparently she was never brought in on any conversations with the ABs or Canes so maybe re-thinking about how he goes about things in terms of dealing with players is something he needs to work on.
Julian was released by the Hurricanes well before the World Cup so either Ardie has got his timings wrong or he's telling fibs.
But also, why would you bring Ardie's wife into any conversations? That's not normal in any business environment, even in pro sport. Given he negotiated his last deal himself, maybe he should've told Avan Lee that he wanted his wife involved.
@Mr-Fish said in Hurricanes 2025:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
In a podcast released earlier today Ardie Savea was ready to sign on the dotted line for the Canes after the World Cup. Then his bro was released from the Canes (rightfully so) and that made him question his loyalty to the Canes and the fact he felt he wasn't specifically valued at the Canes.
Whether he denies it or not, Julian leaving is an obvious reason why he's gone to MP even if he tries to state otherwise. Doesn't he realise he's in a results driven business and players (no matter their reputation or loyalty) will be released if they aren't good enough. Good on him for doing what he thinks is right but I think it's a little precious of him to hold anything against the Canes for trying to improve their performance. It's a shame though because I think he probably would have felt more inclusive playing under Laidlaw than he would have playing under the limited Holland.
In saying all this, I think the Hurricanes CEO Avan Lee has a bit to answer for. You'd think for any business meeting you would invite Ardie's wife as part of that conversation. Apparently she was never brought in on any conversations with the ABs or Canes so maybe re-thinking about how he goes about things in terms of dealing with players is something he needs to work on.
Julian was released by the Hurricanes well before the World Cup so either Ardie has got his timings wrong or he's telling fibs.
But also, why would you bring Ardie's wife into any conversations? That's not normal in any business environment, even in pro sport. Given he negotiated his last deal himself, maybe he should've told Avan Lee that he wanted his wife involved.
Are you married mate??? Let's not forget, BB might still be a Cane if his missus didn't want to live in AKL
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In a podcast released earlier today Ardie Savea was ready to sign on the dotted line for the Canes after the World Cup. Then his bro was released from the Canes (rightfully so) and that made him question his loyalty to the Canes and the fact he felt he wasn't specifically valued at the Canes.
Whether he denies it or not, Julian leaving is an obvious reason why he's gone to MP even if he tries to state otherwise. Doesn't he realise he's in a results driven business and players (no matter their reputation or loyalty) will be released if they aren't good enough. Good on him for doing what he thinks is right but I think it's a little precious of him to hold anything against the Canes for trying to improve their performance. It's a shame though because I think he probably would have felt more inclusive playing under Laidlaw than he would have playing under the limited Holland.
In saying all this, I think the Hurricanes CEO Avan Lee has a bit to answer for. You'd think for any business meeting you would invite Ardie's wife as part of that conversation. Apparently she was never brought in on any conversations with the ABs or Canes so maybe re-thinking about how he goes about things in terms of dealing with players is something he needs to work on.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2025:
Whether he denies it or not, Julian leaving is an obvious reason why he's gone to MP even if he tries to state otherwise. Doesn't he realise he's in a results driven business and players (no matter their reputation or loyalty) will be released if they aren't good enough. Good on him for doing what he thinks is right but I think it's a little precious of him to hold anything against the Canes for trying to improve their performance.
Remember Julian was shitty with the process not necessarily the decision
"I was pretty pissed off, to be honest, but that's rugby and they've got a job to do," he said. "Just the process... they didn't let me know until later on and that's the biggest thing." The Hurricanes previously admitted discussions were difficult and the change in coaching group added a complicationWe never got more details than that.
Maybe they indicated he would get re-signed and Julian turned down other offers in the meantime? We don't know.. but it seems clear from the quote above that it wasn't just about missing out
