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All Blacks vs Pumas I

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    sparky
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    #63

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="610555" data-time="1472456664"><p>
    starting line-up was probably as good as we could field given the injuries we have, so not sure it will get much stronger.</p></blockquote><br>
    I expect Ryan Crotty, Cody Taylor and Patrick T to be back in the 23 for Argentina, perhaps Moala. All of them will strengthen the squad against Argentina's ball carriers.

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    • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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      #64

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="610591" data-time="1472463008">
      <div>
      <p>I think Argentina can be more difficult to play than Australia because they bring something a bit different. We have struggled to break them down in the past. I still think the Aussies will beat them twice, however.</p>
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      <p> </p>
      <p>That will be interesting to see how the Pumas go against Australia , </p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>For whatever reason they seem to enjoy playing the Boks , and hold no fears against them , </p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Bringing the Pumas into this comp could turn out to be a real pain in the butt for the Boks </p>

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      • KiwiMurphK Offline
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        #65

        There was an article about Moala stating the plan is perhaps to have him ready Sept 17 v Boks in Chch at best. Dont think he is a chance for Argie in Hamilton - he was walking very gingerly on the field after the Bleds on Sat

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        • BovidaeB Offline
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          #66

          <p>I read an article yesterday which said that the realistic target to return for both Moala and Naholo was the Arg/SA trip.</p>

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            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="610658" data-time="1472508498">
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            <p>I read an article yesterday which said that the realistic target to return for both Moala and Naholo was the Arg/SA trip.</p>
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            <p>If Moala returns does that mean Taminuvula is goneski ?</p>

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              #68

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="610659" data-time="1472508652">
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              <p>If Moala returns does that mean Taminuvula is goneski ?</p>
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              <p>Yeah that's interesting technically didn't Taminuvula replace SBW, then ALB replace Moala? Last on, first off would dictate that Leinart-Brown is a goner - but after that performance surely not?</p>

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                #69

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rotated" data-cid="610676" data-time="1472511431">
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                <p>Yeah that's interesting technically didn't Taminuvula replace SBW, then ALB replace Moala? Last on, first off would dictate that Leinart-Brown is a goner - but after that performance surely not?</p>
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                <p>ALB replaced SBW first and then Tamanivalu came in for Moala.</p>

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                • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                  #70

                  <p>I actually think there will be a few changes. Have nothing to base it on, but I get the feeling that the away tests will be really targeted, so will want our strongest 23 available.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>I would not be surprised to see Tuipoluto and Romano starting together with one of Retallick/Whitelock on the bench.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>There aren't many options in the back 3 unless they give Cruden/Sopoaga a run at 10 and Barrett is in the mix for a back 3 spot to give Dagg or Bender a spell.  </p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Crotty/ALB plus Fekitoa.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>I think Read and Cane will start every test. Dixon or "Swuire" to start.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Moody, Franks to start with Woody and Charlie on the bench</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Taylor to start and Coles on the bench.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p> </p>

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                  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                    #71

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="cgrant" data-cid="610542" data-time="1472455085"><p>And why not Crotty + ALB in midfield ?</p></blockquote>
                    <br>
                    I can't see them dropping Fekitoa. I think as long as he's fit they will give him as much opportunity to develop. They will want him to grow in confidence and keep improving.

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                    • Billy TellB Offline
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                      #72

                      <p>Crotty + ALB = too similar imo.  It's one or the other at 12 with Fekitoa, or Moala (if fit) or if needed Tamanivulu at 13.</p>

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                      • BartManB Offline
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                        #73

                        Pukunui I agree. No reaction from the Aussie lock. I was gouged once and you come up swinging and biting and throwing anything and everything. Lack of reaction alone tells you no gouge.

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                        • Chris B.C Offline
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                          #74

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="610789" data-time="1472543842">
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                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Moody, Franks to start with Woody and Charlie on the bench</p>
                          <p> </p>
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                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Winding back the clock, eh?  :)</p>

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                            <p>You would think if they are going to do any sort of rotation this would be the game to do it.</p>
                            <p>I doubt they will want to mess with the team too much and really can't afford to in the backs with all the injuries.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>I would think (and Im sure Hansen will be on board) the following:</p>
                            <p>- If Crotty is fit he will come back in and pair with Fekitoa to keep developing that combo. ALB to bench.</p>
                            <p>- If Taylor is fit he will go to the bench with Coles starting </p>
                            <p>- Maybe one player rotated from the loosies. Either Savea starting/Cane Bench or Squire/Dixon starting with Kaino rested.</p>
                            <p>- Pat T to the bench in place of the second loosie (see above point). or Possibly to start for one of BBBR/Sam</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>The rest i see staying the same until Moala/Naholo come back.</p>

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                              Bovidae
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                              #76

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="610827" data-time="1472552393">
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                              <p>Winding back the clock, eh?   :)</p>
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                              </blockquote>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>I'm sure we can drag Woody off the farm.</p>

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                              • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                                ACT Crusader
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                                #77

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="610827" data-time="1472552393"><p>Winding back the clock, eh? :)</p></blockquote>
                                <br>
                                I was wondering if someone would pick that up 🙂

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                                  <p>Why all this hypothesizing about lineups for the next game when we can just ask jegga to get the inside word when he next has <span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">breakfast with him Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, Marty MacKenzie and Joe Moody?</span></p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> :hi:</span><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> </span></p>

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                                    Sapetyvi
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                                    Damian McKenzie

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                                      <p>Don't forget Liam Swuire as well.</p>

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                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="African Monkey" data-cid="610862" data-time="1472576816"><p>Don't forget Liam Swuire as well.</p></blockquote>Swuire isn't as good as Mesam

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                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="RoninWC" data-cid="610852" data-time="1472565364">
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                                          <p>Why all this hypothesizing about lineups for the next game when we can just ask jegga to get the inside word when he next has <span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">breakfast with him Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire, <strong>Marty </strong>MacKenzie and Joe Moody?</span></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> :hi:</span><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> </span></p>
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                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>I have lots of things to ask them, like when is the team announced?</p>

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