Aussie Community Rugby
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@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
@Dan54 allowable points of players? like too many players on the bench or something
"and now we turn to our local NSW club football correspondent @NTA....."
This is purely a Premier Rugby thing here in Sydney as far as I can tell.
Players are given a points value depending on things like whether they're a test or pro player etc. You get discounts if you're a local junior and such.
The idea is like a salary cap - even playing field. Sample sheet:
https://nswpremresults.fusesport.com/game.asp?gameid=269600&compid=1556373&seasonid=1195
@NTA
The Aussie Super Rugby teams should do something like this for the players with ARU contracts. Spread the top talent around. The NZ AB contracted players seem to spread out naturally around the NZ Super franchises. Doesn't happen in Oz.Maybe one of the reasons the Brumbies are so good is they get the Waratah cast offs. Chip on the shoulder castoffs.
Reds have enough talent on their own to be competitive.
Waraths are just fat and lazy.
Rebels did get competitive, but had to pay for it. And we've seen what happened there.
Force will have to pay a big premium to get Wallaby contracted players. But would go the same way as the the Rebs real quick if they did.
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@NTA
The Aussie Super Rugby teams should do something like this for the players with ARU contracts. Spread the top talent around. The NZ AB contracted players seem to spread out naturally around the NZ Super franchises. Doesn't happen in Oz.Maybe one of the reasons the Brumbies are so good is they get the Waratah cast offs. Chip on the shoulder castoffs.
Reds have enough talent on their own to be competitive.
Waraths are just fat and lazy.
Rebels did get competitive, but had to pay for it. And we've seen what happened there.
Force will have to pay a big premium to get Wallaby contracted players. But would go the same way as the the Rebs real quick if they did.
@mohikamo said in Aussie Community Rugby:
Waraths are just fat and lazy.
Back office is definitely a basket case in terms of identifying and retaining talent.
I like your plan to spread talent around, but the problem is club rugby doesn't give a fuck what NSW Rugby says, and never has.
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@NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:
It was a bad day. Fml
What’s gone down mate?!
Side point…nadolo went down like a sack of spuds…a huge sack of spuds
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@NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:
It was a bad day. Fml
What’s gone down mate?!
Side point…nadolo went down like a sack of spuds…a huge sack of spuds
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
What’s gone down mate?!
The fact I posted Tahs news here. Wasn't paying attention.
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Job done as far as my club goals for the year with the club.
Last year as the Divisional Board Rep, I argued for a Top 6 as we were in a 10-club Division.
This year it was back to 8 clubs so only top 4, but we made it - 3rd in First Grade and 4th in Second Grade. TBH the comp was a bit weaker this year, but frustratingly the players we possessed, we should have been 1st in both Grades. It is no stretch to say we have the depth and talent to field 2 sides who would be good enough play each other in the Grand Final.
Weirdly, we lost both our games to Chatswood in high-scoring affairs. We simply didn't get the numbers there on the day or certain players turned up late and stifled our early momentum. Not sure how to address that, because Saturday work is a fact of life for some guys.
Finals this week coincide with Wallabies v Boks but not much we can do about that now. Just have to go with the replay.
First Grade table: https://rugbyresults.fusesport.com/ladder.asp?id=1556502&seasonid=1178
Second Grade table: https://rugbyresults.fusesport.com/ladder.asp?id=1592547&seasonid=1178
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From here it is do-or-die.
First Grade play Wakehurst on Saturday, who we beat convincingly both times during the year. We've got everyone back by the looks of things so expecting a win.
Second Grade take on Hornsby who we haven't beaten - Round 1 we had 12 guys on the park and lost 18-19, and then in Round 8 at their place we were 14 guys and a complete shemozzle, losing 45-0.
However we've got a lot of guys suddenly available now it's finals time
so expecting us to get up there as well. -
From here it is do-or-die.
First Grade play Wakehurst on Saturday, who we beat convincingly both times during the year. We've got everyone back by the looks of things so expecting a win.
Second Grade take on Hornsby who we haven't beaten - Round 1 we had 12 guys on the park and lost 18-19, and then in Round 8 at their place we were 14 guys and a complete shemozzle, losing 45-0.
However we've got a lot of guys suddenly available now it's finals time
so expecting us to get up there as well.@NTA good luck
what are your rules for qualifying players to pay finals? we're doing the math currently but have had reasonably settled squads so think we'll be ok
prelim finals for us in three grade this sat
3rd grade finish minor prems with a week to spare, 1st and 2nd grade lost over the weekend to quins who were in second....so they overtook us to take the minor prem. the luck of the draw is we now play them again at the same ground this sat as 1st plays 2nd
big mental game this week to play the same teams on the same ground a week later but we should know what we need to do to beat them now
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@NTA good luck
what are your rules for qualifying players to pay finals? we're doing the math currently but have had reasonably settled squads so think we'll be ok
prelim finals for us in three grade this sat
3rd grade finish minor prems with a week to spare, 1st and 2nd grade lost over the weekend to quins who were in second....so they overtook us to take the minor prem. the luck of the draw is we now play them again at the same ground this sat as 1st plays 2nd
big mental game this week to play the same teams on the same ground a week later but we should know what we need to do to beat them now
@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:
what are your rules for qualifying players to pay finals? we're doing the math currently but have had reasonably settled squads so think we'll be ok
- Must register on or prior to 4th last Round i.e. Round 11 (July 6 this year).
- Must play in 2 separate competition rounds - had a couple of guys who didn't meet this criteria due to 2nd Grade forfeits, so asked for dispensation.
Our squads are in no way settled in terms of consistency, but when your First Grade has the starting THP and Fullback for the RAAF in your team, as well as an ex-Shute Shield lock and a WA Junior rep flanker, it isn't hard to just let them do their thing.
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ok, thats doable, our guys have to have played 4 of the last 7 games or more than half the season and you only qualify for the highest grade you played that week (to avoid dropping 1st grade players)
so the second half of the season we have to keep an eye on when we play guys up a level to make sure we dont disqualify them from lower grades
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ok, thats doable, our guys have to have played 4 of the last 7 games or more than half the season and you only qualify for the highest grade you played that week (to avoid dropping 1st grade players)
so the second half of the season we have to keep an eye on when we play guys up a level to make sure we dont disqualify them from lower grades
@Kiwiwomble oh yeah we have players graded as well in terms of majority of last 7 games.
Start 2s, Bench 1s = 2nd Grade
Bench both = 1st Grade
Start both = 1st Gradeetc. Can make a case to get dispensation if they played half a season in the lower grade and so on.
If you have consecutive grades in the finals you get what is called "Open Selection" which means you can pick whoever you want wherever you want.
I honestly think they should up it from 2 rounds to 4 rounds minimum to stop the tyre kickers.
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Two teams in the finals. That means a maximum of 46 players (or 50 if you know the Competition's Front Row rules
)Had over 50 respond to the availability request, so extended benches have been named.
One guy and his brother - talented players but issues - go onto the First XV bench. "Fuck that brah Imma start or not turn up!"
Where were you at training the last month? Oh wait you got caught DUI and lost your licence, because your brother's partner called and asked you to come over and stop him going nuts, and you decided to drive drunk.
Where's your rego payment? Oh wait "after I get paid" three times this year.
Where's your club spirit? Drowning in your own problems and fantasies about yourself.
So.... OK fluffybunny. You want to be part of this club? Show me what you're made of.
I'll bet it's "not your fault brah"
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never gets easier mate does it
good luck tomorrow
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Next year it will get easier in a couple of areas once we enforce payment up front.
What's the point of having 85+ registered when I can only name 46?
Let's get rid of the tire kickers for a start.
@NTA yeah, we did that this year and has been easier, first game was painful as i mentioned earlier in the thread, guys doing it on their phone 10min before kickoff
but since then hasnt been too bad
all our our coaches also sponsor at least one players (if they can), i picked up one of our colts who has ended up playing 1s
