All Blacks vs Argentina I
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My fear with the AB's and it has been for a long time is our lack of ball carriers in the forward pack.
With time and space well can rip anyone apart, but everyone's defensive gameplan is to give us no time and space so we need heavy ball runners to dent to line so we can create space.
I just dont think that the "choose a mobile pack and run everyone off their feet" is a realistic gameplan, especially with a 23 man squad and everyone simply lifting their game as professionalism does. I think that gameplan is outdated.
Now it maybe a case in that we simply don't have the cattle, and were doing the best with the players we have but if that's the case and we havn't got heavy ball runners were going to need some innovation and smart thinking to create space, somehow across the field.
For me that's going to be the main challenge of this coaching group.
To be honest dude, if you and others can see that on a rugby forum, I am pretty sure Razor and co are aware of the issue too.
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not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
too many games in Welly. And this isn't the attractive one. And yet places like the Tron don't get one ... I dno't get it. Spread them around FFS
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
too many games in Welly. And this isn't the attractive one. And yet places like the Tron don't get one ... I dno't get it. Spread them around FFS
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
too many games in Welly. And this isn't the attractive one. And yet places like the Tron don't get one ... I dno't get it. Spread them around FFS
It’s not like the ABs play at home 30 times a year
Poor
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
I agree, it’s not a good look.
But it probably shows the changing interest of NZ population. The ABs are not the religion they once were.
The stadium capacity is probably around 10% of the local population (within an hour of the stadium roughly - that’s off the top of my head, I could be wrong by a few % points) and Argentina don’t bring away fans like in the 6 nations.
But it is surprising that it is only at 70% capacity at this stage.
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I agree, it’s not a good look.
But it probably shows the changing interest of NZ population. The ABs are not the religion they once were.
The stadium capacity is probably around 10% of the local population (within an hour of the stadium roughly - that’s off the top of my head, I could be wrong by a few % points) and Argentina don’t bring away fans like in the 6 nations.
But it is surprising that it is only at 70% capacity at this stage.
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
But it probably shows the changing interest of NZ population. The ABs are not the religion they once were.
So ... don't play 2 tests in Wellington in a year?
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The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
too many games in Welly. And this isn't the attractive one. And yet places like the Tron don't get one ... I dno't get it. Spread them around FFS
It’s not like the ABs play at home 30 times a year
Poor
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
too many games in Welly. And this isn't the attractive one. And yet places like the Tron don't get one ... I dno't get it. Spread them around FFS
It’s not like the ABs play at home 30 times a year
Poor
Maybe so. Still should spread the games around
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
too many games in Welly. And this isn't the attractive one. And yet places like the Tron don't get one ... I dno't get it. Spread them around FFS
It’s not like the ABs play at home 30 times a year
Poor
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
too many games in Welly. And this isn't the attractive one. And yet places like the Tron don't get one ... I dno't get it. Spread them around FFS
It’s not like the ABs play at home 30 times a year
Poor
It is argentina though. They aren't usually a great watch compared to other sides.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
too many games in Welly. And this isn't the attractive one. And yet places like the Tron don't get one ... I dno't get it. Spread them around FFS
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
too many games in Welly. And this isn't the attractive one. And yet places like the Tron don't get one ... I dno't get it. Spread them around FFS
I think one of problems is Olympic Games, I think they really should of moved it to afternoon game like Aus have with their test against Boks.
Especially when you think Sky who is broadcasting the test is also doing Olympics. You certainly wouldn't get anyone probably but rusted on rugby people. -
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
Not to mention jam packed with feral Hutt Munters.
Jerry Collins stadium is a much better bet.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
Not to mention jam packed with feral Hutt Munters.
Jerry Collins stadium is a much better bet.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
Not to mention jam packed with feral Hutt Munters.
Jerry Collins stadium is a much better bet.
Except it's in Porirua. And unless things have changed a lot since I left, Porirua is a shithole
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Razor you got this
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
Not to mention jam packed with feral Hutt Munters.
Jerry Collins stadium is a much better bet.
Except it's in Porirua. And unless things have changed a lot since I left, Porirua is a shithole
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
Not to mention jam packed with feral Hutt Munters.
Jerry Collins stadium is a much better bet.
Except it's in Porirua. And unless things have changed a lot since I left, Porirua is a shithole
Whitby, Paremata, Papakowhai, Aotea and Camborne are all outstanding spots.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
Buy a tent ya f****** p****
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
We need redbeard here to talk about the costs of the tickets, parking, beers, chips etc to point out where the problem lies. I've just put in and for two adults, two children it's 300 for the end. 500 for the middle.
I guess there will be another hundy spend on that so 400 or 600.
Actually, thats not too bad I suppose.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
not sold out yet? dont know if this has changed much since yesterday
Quite frankly, that’s shithouse and oh so provincial
We need redbeard here to talk about the costs of the tickets, parking, beers, chips etc to point out where the problem lies. I've just put in and for two adults, two children it's 300 for the end. 500 for the middle.
I guess there will be another hundy spend on that so 400 or 600.
Actually, thats not too bad I suppose.
@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
another handy spend on that
Ticket touts have changed their practice drastically.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
Buy a tent ya f****** p****
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
The reasons for a national stadium keep adding up.
Naming rights look good too.
And it will stop cities building stadiums they need once every few years.
Built slightly north of wellington so it's easy access for the whole country.
With great training facilities nearby and even an outdoor activity arena with breweries.
Trentham here we come!
Yep so long as you don't want to attract out of town fans as f*** all accomadation around Trentham.
Buy a tent ya f****** p****
Fair enough, I being whimpy in old age!!
