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All Blacks vs Argentina I

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    It’s like we had the same forwards coach as last year

    This. Last 15 minutes was worse than against Sth Africa at Twickenham - if that's even possible.

    Is it just one forwards coach in charge or is it a committee of 3 or 4?

    Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row. Need a big 6, Blackadder is busy but ineffective. That miss off the scrum cost the game.

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row.

    You can get away with it at Super level not at test level

    I was hoping Razor didn't have to learn that the hard way..

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

      Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row.

      You can get away with it at Super level not at test level

      I was hoping Razor didn't have to learn that the hard way..

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

      @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

      Robertson is responsible for selecting three 6.5s in the back row.

      You can get away with it at Super level not at test level

      I was hoping Razor didn't have to learn that the hard way..

      I was hoping Razor didn't have to learn it at all.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        Ouch

        From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

        This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

        The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

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        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

        Ouch

        From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

        This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

        The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

        You appear to have dredged up a post from the dark days of the Fozzie era. Lazy posting mate, you're better than that

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        • canefanC canefan

          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          Ouch

          From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

          This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

          The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

          You appear to have dredged up a post from the dark days of the Fozzie era. Lazy posting mate, you're better than that

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          @canefan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

          Ouch

          From my vantage point NZ absolutely have the cattle

          This was piss poor selection and tactics putting good players under unnecessary pressure which resulted in poor decision making and inaccuracy

          The pack are missing a dog like PSTD. A nasty dog in the Etsebeth mould would be even better.

          You appear to have dredged up a post from the dark days of the Fozzie era. Lazy posting mate, you're better than that

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          • His BobnessH His Bobness

            Too many cooks in the kitchen, I suspect. And no mongrel in the pack.

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            @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

            Too many cooks in the kitchen, I suspect. And no mongrel in the pack.

            From the outside, it feels like it's a bunch of unusually insecure middle-aged pals perpetually slapping each other on the back for fear of one of their gang not feeling the love, rather than than a group of utterly ruthless professionals preparing a bunch of hungry young men for the brutal arena of Test Rugby.

            But I might be being harsh.

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              At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked

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              • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked

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                @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked clueless

                Fixed

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                  How? H-h-how??? Just, how???

                  That came down to three moments. Two gifted tries and a series of awful passes.

                  Does D-Mac need to take a spell and bring Plummer in from outside the squad? We just have zero punch. Personly I thought there were some rough PKs against us. Not sure what SlackBladder did in the lineout other than compete for the ball to warrant a PK and there we some rucks such as the last PK where Sititi was sitting out the back doing sweet FA to be involved yet gets pinged. The fact is, Argentina should have been within 14 points of this game yet we managed to manufacture them a win. FML.

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                    "The players didn't do what we coached"

                    Well you and your mates selected them and coached them...

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                    • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                      At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked

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                      @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                      At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked

                      I had high hopes that he could take us places. I didn't expect this. He should be embarrassed. I expect some serious changes in personnel and mindset next weekend. But I won't hold my breath. Maybe Razor's super success was due to having the best players? Where is the attention to detail? Wasn't he meant to give the players clear guidance regarding their core responsibilities?

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                        Fozzy cackling and rolling a blunt

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                        • G game_film

                          Fozzy cackling and rolling a blunt

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                          @game_film said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                          Fozzy cackling and rolling a blunt unwrapping a twinkie

                          Fixed

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                            The direct game plan was really working in the World Cup last year.
                            And the Blues won using a variant of it.
                            Then our only solid moments today were when we played direct.
                            Not sure why Razor felt he had to come along and put his own mark on things.
                            It's not working.
                            We could easily have lost both of those England tests.
                            Color me thoroughly unimpressed so far.
                            Especially with the Canterbury mates club.

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                              What must Hoskins and Akira be thinking?

                              alt text

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked

                                I had high hopes that he could take us places. I didn't expect this. He should be embarrassed. I expect some serious changes in personnel and mindset next weekend. But I won't hold my breath. Maybe Razor's super success was due to having the best players? Where is the attention to detail? Wasn't he meant to give the players clear guidance regarding their core responsibilities?

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                                @canefan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                At least Razor’s honest about the performance……. Looks pretty shocked

                                I had high hopes that he could take us places. I didn't expect this. He should be embarrassed. I expect some serious changes in personnel and mindset next weekend. But I won't hold my breath. Maybe Razor's super success was due to having the best players? Where is the attention to detail? Wasn't he meant to give the players clear guidance regarding their core responsibilities?

                                I honestly suspect he can coach ,

                                But there are levels and so far he is proven at super rugby and has little experience at this level, and it did look today we attempted to play a brand more suited to super rugby ,

                                ,it looked very similar to the early years of fozzie ball tbh .

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  What must Hoskins and Akira be thinking?

                                  alt text

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @gt12

                                    I think someone said a whole ago he played twice for north harbour at 6.

                                    I want to see more of Finau at 6 though.

                                    Sititi is not really a big 6.

                                    We've taken Finau over Akira, we absolutely must persist with him now. He has the physical attributes to be a world class 6 in time. Ideally we'd have Akira starting and Finau learning his trade, but the coaches inexplicable dislike of Akira means Finau now has to learn on the job. Dropping him and trying someone else not suited to the role at test level is waste of time. We just have to hope Finau finds his feet without having his confidence destroyed, which has happened to other players thrown in too soon.

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                                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

                                    @gt12

                                    I think someone said a whole ago he played twice for north harbour at 6.

                                    I want to see more of Finau at 6 though.

                                    Sititi is not really a big 6.

                                    We've taken Finau over Akira, we absolutely must persist with him now. He has the physical attributes to be a world class 6 in time. Ideally we'd have Akira starting and Finau learning his trade, but the coaches inexplicable dislike of Akira means Finau now has to learn on the job. Dropping him and trying someone else not suited to the role at test level is waste of time. We just have to hope Finau finds his feet without having his confidence destroyed, which has happened to other players thrown in too soon.

                                    Akira 🤣

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                                      On a par with Twickenham 23
                                      Crowd was rubbish
                                      Focus was rubbish
                                      TMO was rubbish
                                      Leadership was rubbish
                                      Please start Ratima

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                                        I'm glad we have a specialist throwing coach.... Corey Flynn really earning his pay.....

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                                          It’s funny (if you want to look at this way) but every time we’ve lost in Wellington apart from that Lions test, the weather has been perfect. It’s like the ABs prepare for high winds and bad weather when they play in Welly and then when it’s fine their plan goes out the window.

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