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All Blacks v Argentina II

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  • K kev

    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

    A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

    It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

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    KiwiMurph
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    @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

    A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

    It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

    ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

    Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

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    • K kev

      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

      @kev

      Even if we are up 35-3 at HT against them?

      We need to maintain pressure for 80 mins in a test match. Turning off in 2nd half isn’t good enough.

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      DaGrubster
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      @kev

      Thanks Supercoach 😀

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        How do you all think Cane has gone?

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        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        How do you all think Cane has gone?

        Better than his previous game for the All Blacks

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

          A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

          It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

          ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

          Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

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          @KiwiMurph

          The way games go to shit when teams empty the bench is another advert for less subs per game

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            @KiwiMurph

            The way games go to shit when teams empty the bench is another advert for less subs per game

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            @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @KiwiMurph

            The way games go to shit when teams empty the bench is another advert for less subs per game

            The boks games don't, so it's to do with the players and coaches, not the rules

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              Stag
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              I’m a Williams fan, but he had 2 runs for no run meters and made 9 tackles. He scrummed well but overall was adequate rather than superb🤷‍♂️

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              • M Machpants

                @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @KiwiMurph

                The way games go to shit when teams empty the bench is another advert for less subs per game

                The boks games don't, so it's to do with the players and coaches, not the rules

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                @Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @KiwiMurph

                The way games go to shit when teams empty the bench is another advert for less subs per game

                The boks games don't, so it's to do with the players and coaches, not the rules

                2nd half last week was Boks 12 Wallabies 7

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                • StagS Stag

                  I’m a Williams fan, but he had 2 runs for no run meters and made 9 tackles. He scrummed well but overall was adequate rather than superb🤷‍♂️

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                  @Stag said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  I’m a Williams fan, but he had 2 runs for no run meters and made 9 tackles. He scrummed well but overall was adequate rather than superb🤷‍♂️

                  9 tackles for a prop is good

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @KiwiMurph

                    The way games go to shit when teams empty the bench is another advert for less subs per game

                    The boks games don't, so it's to do with the players and coaches, not the rules

                    2nd half last week was Boks 12 Wallabies 7

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                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @KiwiMurph

                    The way games go to shit when teams empty the bench is another advert for less subs per game

                    The boks games don't, so it's to do with the players and coaches, not the rules

                    2nd half last week was Boks 12 Wallabies 7

                    But they still looked cohesive.

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                      TJP is an enigmatic player. Much better performance in fairly average conditions. And I don't think there's another halfback who could've set up Jordan for that try.

                      But in dry weather we need faster service from rucks.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

                        A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

                        It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

                        ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

                        Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

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                        kev
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                        #1148

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

                        A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

                        It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

                        ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

                        Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

                        And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big and physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.

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                        • K kev

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

                          A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

                          It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

                          ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

                          Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

                          And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big and physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.

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                          Machpants
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                          @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                          Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

                          A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

                          It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

                          ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

                          Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

                          And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big and physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.

                          No points for the last 37 minutes, that's shit

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                          • StagS Stag

                            I’m a Williams fan, but he had 2 runs for no run meters and made 9 tackles. He scrummed well but overall was adequate rather than superb🤷‍♂️

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                            #1150

                            @Stag Other sides are looking to run round Props.

                            If props can make several early, hard hits, it sends a massive signal to the opposition.

                            Both Lomax and Williams did that tonight. Their work in the tight was excellent too.

                            You are right Williams needs to work on his ball-carrying though. Technically he's not as good as Lomax yet IMHO, but my God he's a talent.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Stag said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              I’m a Williams fan, but he had 2 runs for no run meters and made 9 tackles. He scrummed well but overall was adequate rather than superb🤷‍♂️

                              9 tackles for a prop is good

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              @Stag said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              I’m a Williams fan, but he had 2 runs for no run meters and made 9 tackles. He scrummed well but overall was adequate rather than superb🤷‍♂️

                              9 tackles for a prop is good

                              Not to mention earning 2 penalties to dig your team out of a hole and destroy the opposition's confidence. Weird take eh. Was only on for 60ish mins too right?

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                              • K kev

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

                                A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

                                It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

                                ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

                                Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

                                And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big and physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.

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                                KiwiMurph
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                                @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

                                A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

                                It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

                                ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

                                Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

                                And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big a physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.

                                The first 40 minutes is where we lost the last two world cups

                                2019 we got physically blown away in the first half and were behind the 8 ball

                                2023 we got 2 cards in the first 40

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                                  Machpants
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                                  I think we'll lose both our next games, then smash Oz, unsure about Welly for the last game tho

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

                                    A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

                                    It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

                                    ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

                                    Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

                                    And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big a physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.

                                    The first 40 minutes is where we lost the last two world cups

                                    2019 we got physically blown away in the first half and were behind the 8 ball

                                    2023 we got 2 cards in the first 40

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                                    kev
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                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                    Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.

                                    A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019

                                    It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.

                                    ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.

                                    Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things

                                    And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big a physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.

                                    The first 40 minutes is where we lost the last two world cups

                                    2019 we got physically blown away in the first half and were behind the 8 ball

                                    2023 we got 2 cards in the first 40

                                    Still 40 mins short

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                                      nzzp
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                                      Cracks successfully papered over.

                                      Some good performances, but not much there that will worry the Saffers. Good result, but I'm not convinced Argentina really showed up. Two monster games coming up over there - that'll show us where we are

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        This may have been mentioned but we didn't look like scoring a try after DMac was subbed. BB at 1st 5 and Jordan at fullback was hardly a success.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          This may have been mentioned but we didn't look like scoring a try after DMac was subbed. BB at 1st 5 and Jordan at fullback was hardly a success.

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          This may have been mentioned but we didn't look like scoring a try after DMac was subbed. BB at 1st 5 and Jordan at fullback was hardly a success.

                                          Jordan is not a fullback.

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