All Blacks v Argentina II
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@kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.
A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019
It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.
ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.
Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things
And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big and physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.
A bullshit RC and two missed kicks you'd normally bank is hardly a compelling argument that we can't play for 80mins.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.
A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019
It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.
ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.
Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things
And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big and physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.
A bullshit RC and two missed kicks you'd normally bank is hardly a compelling argument that we can't play for 80mins.
Yeah, I agree. But we really poor for 40 mins today. And should call it for what it was.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.
A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019
It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.
ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.
Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things
And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big and physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.
A bullshit RC and two missed kicks you'd normally bank is hardly a compelling argument that we can't play for 80mins.
Yeah, I agree. But we really poor for 40 mins today. And should call it for what it was.
@kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kev said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Ardie nails it in the post match comments. Need to bring that first half effort every week.
A speech I've heard time and again from about 2019
It’s like this generation of players can’t stick to a game plan for 80 mins. Instead we loosen up and play rugby with lots of kicking in attacking situations. If I was coach I would be pissed.
ABs used to drop off in the second half even in the Carter/McCaw days.
Game was over at halftime and we used the second half to give guys a run and try some things
And the reason why we haven’t won the last two world cups. We have to find a way to get better against a Bok team that is big and physical and will execute their game plan for 80 mins.
A bullshit RC and two missed kicks you'd normally bank is hardly a compelling argument that we can't play for 80mins.
Yeah, I agree. But we really poor for 40 mins today. And should call it for what it was.
I'm prepared to cut them some slack as the squad has to develop together. But you're right that there were some frustratingly dumb decisions made by individuals that put the team under pressure.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Not the Big Bad Boks!!!!
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Like the ref
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Good first half, it was great to see some intelligent kicking - both long and short.
Shoulda left McKenzie on, no direction after that.Williams looked the part, and Ofa wasn't great - so I think he becomes the bench option for me.
Taylor played well; Aumua so powerful, shame about the soft yellow.
Tupou Vaai was good eh? Best test I remember from him, and Darry good again.
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
Savea was pretty good again finally, thank fuck.
I don't see why you need Cane if you have Dalton - or vice versa I suppose - but Cane is not the future.
TJP amazing offload for the Jordan try. Remains a great rugby player and a mediocre halfback.
McKenzie is at the heart of almost everything good we do.
JB much improved. RI only okay. ALB looking pretty sharp again.
Wingers looked better, but then they ought to behind a vastly better team performance.
Beauden okay at fullback and horrible at 10. Nothing new there. Interesting to see JB dropping back at times, which is a good tactic to compete better in the forceback.Oh, the 'where are the Ardie highlights reel guys?' question. Well speaking for myself, watching the game instead of posting parochial shit is where I was. I actually thought the game provided a nice example of the criticism: watch him bump 3 people off early on. It's a really powerful run, impressive, 'beast mode' - straight to the highlights package that run for sure. What the highlights won't show is that the outcome was that he turned the ball over by running away from his support and getting bundled into touch. Feels a bit churlish to finish on that note given how well he played, but fuck it it's not like i'm structuring an essay here.
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Good first half, it was great to see some intelligent kicking - both long and short.
Shoulda left McKenzie on, no direction after that.Williams looked the part, and Ofa wasn't great - so I think he becomes the bench option for me.
Taylor played well; Aumua so powerful, shame about the soft yellow.
Tupou Vaai was good eh? Best test I remember from him, and Darry good again.
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
Savea was pretty good again finally, thank fuck.
I don't see why you need Cane if you have Dalton - or vice versa I suppose - but Cane is not the future.
TJP amazing offload for the Jordan try. Remains a great rugby player and a mediocre halfback.
McKenzie is at the heart of almost everything good we do.
JB much improved. RI only okay. ALB looking pretty sharp again.
Wingers looked better, but then they ought to behind a vastly better team performance.
Beauden okay at fullback and horrible at 10. Nothing new there. Interesting to see JB dropping back at times, which is a good tactic to compete better in the forceback.Oh, the 'where are the Ardie highlights reel guys?' question. Well speaking for myself, watching the game instead of posting parochial shit is where I was. I actually thought the game provided a nice example of the criticism: watch him bump 3 people off early on. It's a really powerful run, impressive, 'beast mode' - straight to the highlights package that run for sure. What the highlights won't show is that the outcome was that he turned the ball over by running away from his support and getting bundled into touch. Feels a bit churlish to finish on that note given how well he played, but fuck it it's not like i'm structuring an essay here.
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I actually thought the game provided a nice example of the criticism: watch him bump 3 people off early on. It's a really powerful run, impressive, 'beast mode' - straight to the highlights package that run for sure. What the highlights won't show is that the outcome was that he turned the ball over by running away from his support and getting bundled into touch.
I was screaming for him to pass to Jordan who was unmarked, I think "stupid hungus" was the phrase.
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Good first half, it was great to see some intelligent kicking - both long and short.
Shoulda left McKenzie on, no direction after that.Williams looked the part, and Ofa wasn't great - so I think he becomes the bench option for me.
Taylor played well; Aumua so powerful, shame about the soft yellow.
Tupou Vaai was good eh? Best test I remember from him, and Darry good again.
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
Savea was pretty good again finally, thank fuck.
I don't see why you need Cane if you have Dalton - or vice versa I suppose - but Cane is not the future.
TJP amazing offload for the Jordan try. Remains a great rugby player and a mediocre halfback.
McKenzie is at the heart of almost everything good we do.
JB much improved. RI only okay. ALB looking pretty sharp again.
Wingers looked better, but then they ought to behind a vastly better team performance.
Beauden okay at fullback and horrible at 10. Nothing new there. Interesting to see JB dropping back at times, which is a good tactic to compete better in the forceback.Oh, the 'where are the Ardie highlights reel guys?' question. Well speaking for myself, watching the game instead of posting parochial shit is where I was. I actually thought the game provided a nice example of the criticism: watch him bump 3 people off early on. It's a really powerful run, impressive, 'beast mode' - straight to the highlights package that run for sure. What the highlights won't show is that the outcome was that he turned the ball over by running away from his support and getting bundled into touch. Feels a bit churlish to finish on that note given how well he played, but fuck it it's not like i'm structuring an essay here.
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
Honestly, I'm more impressed that he managed more than 2 games without getting injured.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I actually thought the game provided a nice example of the criticism: watch him bump 3 people off early on. It's a really powerful run, impressive, 'beast mode' - straight to the highlights package that run for sure. What the highlights won't show is that the outcome was that he turned the ball over by running away from his support and getting bundled into touch.
I was screaming for him to pass to Jordan who was unmarked, I think "stupid hungus" was the phrase.
@Canerbry said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I actually thought the game provided a nice example of the criticism: watch him bump 3 people off early on. It's a really powerful run, impressive, 'beast mode' - straight to the highlights package that run for sure. What the highlights won't show is that the outcome was that he turned the ball over by running away from his support and getting bundled into touch.
I was screaming for him to pass to Jordan who was unmarked, I think "stupid hungus" was the phrase.
Yeah Jordan coulda turned it over waaaay better.
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Good first half, it was great to see some intelligent kicking - both long and short.
Shoulda left McKenzie on, no direction after that.Williams looked the part, and Ofa wasn't great - so I think he becomes the bench option for me.
Taylor played well; Aumua so powerful, shame about the soft yellow.
Tupou Vaai was good eh? Best test I remember from him, and Darry good again.
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
Savea was pretty good again finally, thank fuck.
I don't see why you need Cane if you have Dalton - or vice versa I suppose - but Cane is not the future.
TJP amazing offload for the Jordan try. Remains a great rugby player and a mediocre halfback.
McKenzie is at the heart of almost everything good we do.
JB much improved. RI only okay. ALB looking pretty sharp again.
Wingers looked better, but then they ought to behind a vastly better team performance.
Beauden okay at fullback and horrible at 10. Nothing new there. Interesting to see JB dropping back at times, which is a good tactic to compete better in the forceback.Oh, the 'where are the Ardie highlights reel guys?' question. Well speaking for myself, watching the game instead of posting parochial shit is where I was. I actually thought the game provided a nice example of the criticism: watch him bump 3 people off early on. It's a really powerful run, impressive, 'beast mode' - straight to the highlights package that run for sure. What the highlights won't show is that the outcome was that he turned the ball over by running away from his support and getting bundled into touch. Feels a bit churlish to finish on that note given how well he played, but fuck it it's not like i'm structuring an essay here.
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
I don't think there's that many that question his spot in the squad. Nailed on in the 20 jersey for most I reckon.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
I don't think there's that many that question his spot in the squad. Nailed on in the 20 jersey for most I reckon.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
I don't think there's that many that question his spot in the squad. Nailed on in the 20 jersey for most I reckon.
I'd hope so. Pretty sure there was a fair bit of shit flying about him being an undeserving mate of Razors etc.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
I don't think there's that many that question his spot in the squad. Nailed on in the 20 jersey for most I reckon.
I'd hope so. Pretty sure there was a fair bit of shit flying about him being an undeserving mate of Razors etc.
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Blackadder was good again. A few more on here now thinking that he deserves his spot in the squad after that I'd hope.
I don't think there's that many that question his spot in the squad. Nailed on in the 20 jersey for most I reckon.
I'd hope so. Pretty sure there was a fair bit of shit flying about him being an undeserving mate of Razors etc.
Starting at blindside, for sure.
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Just watched the highlights
Some great tries. Some great off the ball running and supporting creating space.
Nailed on YC.
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Just watched the highlights
Some great tries. Some great off the ball running and supporting creating space.
Nailed on YC.
@MiketheSnow borderline for me but when you see the rebound of Aumua's head and his face that probably tips it.
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Just watched the highlights
Some great tries. Some great off the ball running and supporting creating space.
Nailed on YC.
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Nailed on YC.
Yep.
The fact some folks here are questioning it tells you about refereeing "standards" in Super Rugby and NPC.
100% a YC in every other professional competition around the world for the last decade.
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I don't have a problem with the yellow but I do have a problem with the Argie going down feigning injury so it would get looked at. It's becoming common place and it shits me. I know he eventually went for an HIA but the way he was carrying on made it look like he needed a stretcher. If he was that bad he should have been straight off. Bet he passed the HIA.
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I don't have a problem with the yellow but I do have a problem with the Argie going down feigning injury so it would get looked at. It's becoming common place and it shits me. I know he eventually went for an HIA but the way he was carrying on made it look like he needed a stretcher. If he was that bad he should have been straight off. Bet he passed the HIA.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I don't have a problem with the yellow but I do have a problem with the Argie going down feigning injury so it would get looked at. It's becoming common place and it shits me. I know he eventually went for an HIA but the way he was carrying on made it look like he needed a stretcher. If he was that bad he should have been straight off. Bet he passed the HIA.
What made it worse was his complete non reaction until after he'd carefully and safely placed the ball and the ruck had been cleared. He and Reece will have a great yarn after the game.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
The way games go to shit when teams empty the bench is another advert for less subs per game
The boks games don't, so it's to do with the players and coaches, not the rules
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
The way games go to shit when teams empty the bench is another advert for less subs per game
The boks games don't, so it's to do with the players and coaches, not the rules
Sweeping statement backed up by nothing at all
