Springboks vs All Blacks I
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I really don't understand why they continue to select Havili only to continue to keep him in civvies on match day
He should start writing a book because he has better access than anyone in the press
He's a token All Black. A rubber stopper for a door gap but not a very big one.
A 12 with an accurate cross kick is gold against the Boks’ fishhook defending.
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I really don't understand why they continue to select Havili only to continue to keep him in civvies on match day
He should start writing a book because he has better access than anyone in the press
He's a token All Black. A rubber stopper for a door gap but not a very big one.
A 12 with an accurate cross kick is gold against the Boks’ fishhook defending.
Hmm, not sure “gold” is the right word for that limited skill set. It’s not like we can’t cross kick from 10, and sometimes it’s kinda nice to be able to run straight and hard at 12 to keep them guessing.
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@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I really don't understand why they continue to select Havili only to continue to keep him in civvies on match day
He should start writing a book because he has better access than anyone in the press
He's a token All Black. A rubber stopper for a door gap but not a very big one.
A 12 with an accurate cross kick is gold against the Boks’ fishhook defending.
We shall see!
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I really don't understand why they continue to select Havili only to continue to keep him in civvies on match day
He should start writing a book because he has better access than anyone in the press
He's a token All Black. A rubber stopper for a door gap but not a very big one.
A 12 with an accurate cross kick is gold against the Boks’ fishhook defending.
We shall see!
Check out 8:40
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I really don't understand why they continue to select Havili only to continue to keep him in civvies on match day
He should start writing a book because he has better access than anyone in the press
He's a token All Black. A rubber stopper for a door gap but not a very big one.
A 12 with an accurate cross kick is gold against the Boks’ fishhook defending.
We shall see!
Check out 8:40
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I really don't understand why they continue to select Havili only to continue to keep him in civvies on match day
He should start writing a book because he has better access than anyone in the press
He's a token All Black. A rubber stopper for a door gap but not a very big one.
A 12 with an accurate cross kick is gold against the Boks’ fishhook defending.
We shall see!
Check out 8:40
Can't DMac and BB do that? (Edit: maybe JB can or can't, I can't remember this from him).
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@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I really don't understand why they continue to select Havili only to continue to keep him in civvies on match day
He should start writing a book because he has better access than anyone in the press
He's a token All Black. A rubber stopper for a door gap but not a very big one.
A 12 with an accurate cross kick is gold against the Boks’ fishhook defending.
We shall see!
Check out 8:40
Can't DMac and BB do that? (Edit: maybe JB can or can't, I can't remember this from him).
@nostrildamus they can, but think it works best off 12. Sure Jordie could crack it with a little practice.
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What a beauty this one was. I love the crushed look on Willie Le Roux's face after Bridge scores. Perfection.
https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcupes/status/1825970479255138599
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What a beauty this one was. I love the crushed look on Willie Le Roux's face after Bridge scores. Perfection.
https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcupes/status/1825970479255138599
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
What a beauty this one was. I love the crushed look on Willie Le Roux's face after Bridge scores. Perfection.
https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcupes/status/1825970479255138599
Proof that Bridge could break a tackle!
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@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow He won seven Super Titles under Razor so it's safe to say he really likes him.
Except he's shit against Tier 1 teams. His level is not high quality Tests.
Springboks in 2022 were Tier 2?
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MiketheSnow He won seven Super Titles under Razor so it's safe to say he really likes him.
Except he's shit against Tier 1 teams. His level is not high quality Tests.
Springboks in 2022 were Tier 2?
He has one good game and gets kissed on the dick for the rest of his career....
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What I find interesting, all the talk about ellis park being such an intimidating place to play ,and I’m sure it is , we seem to enjoy that challenge.
We have won 5 of the last 6 there , it seems to be a ground that has brought out the best in us
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What a beauty this one was. I love the crushed look on Willie Le Roux's face after Bridge scores. Perfection.
https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcupes/status/1825970479255138599
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
What a beauty this one was. I love the crushed look on Willie Le Roux's face after Bridge scores. Perfection.
https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcupes/status/1825970479255138599
I wish we could have cloned Aaron Smith
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wait we are not kissing Havili on the dick for that try are we??? The most important person in the whole thing is Aaron Smith, who whips that wide pass, then backs up the winger, AND cleans the ruck.
The kick pass wasn't even needed or that great, the winger has to stop and get it, and beats the defender with a goose stepFuck our standards have dropped
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
What a beauty this one was. I love the crushed look on Willie Le Roux's face after Bridge scores. Perfection.
https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcupes/status/1825970479255138599
I wish we could have cloned Aaron Smith
@Nevorian said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I wish we could have cloned Aaron Smith
his pass is just sublime. Incredible player and you see what he created.
Hell, his passing kept the Highlanders competitive for years by letting them attack 2 or 3 channels outside the ruck.
/sigh
I miss him
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@Nevorian said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I wish we could have cloned Aaron Smith
his pass is just sublime. Incredible player and you see what he created.
Hell, his passing kept the Highlanders competitive for years by letting them attack 2 or 3 channels outside the ruck.
/sigh
I miss him
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Nevorian said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I wish we could have cloned Aaron Smith
his pass is just sublime. Incredible player and you see what he created.
Hell, his passing kept the Highlanders competitive for years by letting them attack 2 or 3 channels outside the ruck.
/sigh
I miss him
Aaron Smith was our lineout MVP because his pass turned 2-ball in to attacking ball. Made life for our hookers a lot easier
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Nuggie was the best passing halfback I’ve seen , I know there have been other great halfbacks , better running games or kicking games perhaps.
But when it comes to distribution, he was the goat .
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Token, Token, Patrick Tuipulotu (c), Sam Darry, Akira Ioane, Dalton Papali'i, Hoskins Sotutu, Token, Harry Plummer, Caleb Clarke, AJ Lam, Rieko Ioane, Mark Tele'a, Stephen Perofeta
sounds better and I've got some great names for the bench!
You might need a few more tokens because Tuipulotu, Perofeta are injured, Plummer won’t travel, Lam is not an AB, and Ioane and Sotutu never heard of them and neither has Razor.
Looking extremely light on, which is probably for the best.
You mentioned one who is returning from injury and 2 who are always injured and more tokens than I did and you claimed a blues player. So back at you and your light brigade.
They are all available for selection
I'm not sure about Patrick, Scott might play but with injury -bandaged finger - DH's mighty frame up against the Boks? Shudder. And EB isn't called Niggles for nothing.
https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-switch-focus-to-the-springboks
As to Razor not knowing Akira
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
DH's mighty frame up against the Boks? Shudder.
Though interestingly vs South Africa:
Dave Havili: played 5: won 3: lost 2
Jordie Barrett: played 8: won 3: lost 5(I think Jordie is 1:2 at 2nd five)
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
DH's mighty frame up against the Boks? Shudder.
Though interestingly vs South Africa:
Dave Havili: played 5: won 3: lost 2
Jordie Barrett: played 8: won 3: lost 5(I think Jordie is 1:2 at 2nd five)
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Nuggie was the best passing halfback I’ve seen , I know there have been other great halfbacks , better running games or kicking games perhaps.
But when it comes to distribution, he was the goat .
@kiwiinmelb said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Nuggie was the best passing halfback I’ve seen , I know there have been other great halfbacks , better running games or kicking games perhaps.
But when it comes to distribution, he was the goat .
The passing is enhanced by his speed to the ruck and the lines he runs across the field. The close out of the 2013 Ireland test was probably the greatest example of this especially when the defensive ruck pressure from Ireland was high.
Perenara has good speed also and he’s also excellent supporting whether for an offload or if the ball carrier is tackled and we need clean out support. It’s what happens when we need quick ball that concerns me. Against the Boks ruck pressure we will need him to clear ball quickly.
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@Chris-B said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
(I think Jordie is 1:2 at 2nd five)
So the two losses at 12 are the shitshow pre world cup warm up effort at Twickenham and the final where Cane got red carded and Frizell got yellow carded?
@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Chris-B said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
(I think Jordie is 1:2 at 2nd five)
So the two losses at 12 are the shitshow pre world cup warm up effort at Twickenham and the final where Cane got red carded and Frizell got yellow carded?
Correct.
One of Dave's losses was to an injury time penalty goal when DH had been subbed at 65 minutes.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Nuggie was the best passing halfback I’ve seen , I know there have been other great halfbacks , better running games or kicking games perhaps.
But when it comes to distribution, he was the goat .
The passing is enhanced by his speed to the ruck and the lines he runs across the field. The close out of the 2013 Ireland test was probably the greatest example of this especially when the defensive ruck pressure from Ireland was high.
Perenara has good speed also and he’s also excellent supporting whether for an offload or if the ball carrier is tackled and we need clean out support. It’s what happens when we need quick ball that concerns me. Against the Boks ruck pressure we will need him to clear ball quickly.
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Perenara has good speed also and he’s also excellent supporting whether for an offload or if the ball carrier is tackled and we need clean out support. It’s what happens when we need quick ball that concerns me. Against the Boks ruck pressure we will need him to clear ball quickly
to me the main difference is they can both get the ball out fast, but A Smith almost every time finds the right guy to give it to, where as TJ seems to find the wrong guy too often. Smith's quick ball keeps movements flowing, TJs make everything look rushed and disorganised. One of those small things that only the truly great can just do?
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Can we keep this thread about the match please
There's a thread for the MacDonald news:
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6826/leon-macdonald-quits
