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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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    Machpants
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    Such sweet, sweet salty tears

    We got on the wrong side of some refereeing decisions.

    https://www.planetrugby.com/news/wrong-side-of-some-refereeing-decisions-ireland-coach-reflects-on-world-cup-exit

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      Such sweet, sweet salty tears

      We got on the wrong side of some refereeing decisions.

      https://www.planetrugby.com/news/wrong-side-of-some-refereeing-decisions-ireland-coach-reflects-on-world-cup-exit

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      @Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      We got on the wrong side of some refereeing decisions.

      Wouldn't mind if he shared what they were. My memory is limited to Jordan's try Whitelock's steal.

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        Could just mean they were the less disciplined side etc - doesn't have to mean they were unfairly treated.

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          Found this aerial view of the final sequence. It’s quite good in showing the defensive alignment of the ABs.

          Also credit to Ireland as they did very their attack throughout - short balls, long cut outs, wrap arounds - angled runs etc.

          https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Q6hPWXLhbryTb7D5/?mibextid=UalRPS

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            Found this aerial view of the final sequence. It’s quite good in showing the defensive alignment of the ABs.

            Also credit to Ireland as they did very their attack throughout - short balls, long cut outs, wrap arounds - angled runs etc.

            https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Q6hPWXLhbryTb7D5/?mibextid=UalRPS

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            @ACT-Crusader the communication, confidence, trust and tenacity shown there has become very rare in the past 6 years. Amazing to watch that and see them just all lined up every time, getting off the ground and not panicking.

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              Found this aerial view of the final sequence. It’s quite good in showing the defensive alignment of the ABs.

              Also credit to Ireland as they did very their attack throughout - short balls, long cut outs, wrap arounds - angled runs etc.

              https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Q6hPWXLhbryTb7D5/?mibextid=UalRPS

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              @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Found this aerial view of the final sequence. It’s quite good in showing the defensive alignment of the ABs.

              Also credit to Ireland as they did very their attack throughout - short balls, long cut outs, wrap arounds - angled runs etc.

              https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Q6hPWXLhbryTb7D5/?mibextid=UalRPS

              What was the difference between Ardie and Sam winning the turnover? Other than the ref calling it?

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                I know this is so last week, but a short thread from Mulligan.

                https://twitter.com/Andrew_Mulligan/status/1715154093386432889?t=Ux8ixCOvPWXKxf2MWbkNfA&s=19

                We're smug for focussing on the next match.

                I'm so glad we beat them.

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                @booboo

                I don’t begrudge them their success but they had got very cocky very quickly and incident like PoM made it worse.

                Imagine the crowing if they won.

                I had the utmost confidence we will beat them that day and knew we would come at the with something they had met seen from us in a long time.

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                • LatsToTheMaxL LatsToTheMax

                  @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  Found this aerial view of the final sequence. It’s quite good in showing the defensive alignment of the ABs.

                  Also credit to Ireland as they did very their attack throughout - short balls, long cut outs, wrap arounds - angled runs etc.

                  https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Q6hPWXLhbryTb7D5/?mibextid=UalRPS

                  What was the difference between Ardie and Sam winning the turnover? Other than the ref calling it?

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                  @LatsToTheMax the arrival of the ref at the ruck.

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                    Ardie totally won that turnover.

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      Ardie totally won that turnover.

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                      @nzzp said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                      Ardie totally won that turnover.

                      It looks so much worse from that view eh, and Sam's looks completely innocuous.

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                        @nzzp said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Ardie totally won that turnover.

                        It looks so much worse from that view eh, and Sam's looks completely innocuous.

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                        @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        @nzzp said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                        Ardie totally won that turnover.

                        It looks so much worse from that view eh, and Sam's looks completely innocuous.

                        There was also one on the other side of the field about 3 mins earlier I think with BBBR that probably should have been called as well. Funny, it was a sign for two weeks later that Barnes didn't want to make a call in the last few minutes.

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                          We know refs swallow their whistles at the end of tight games, but that was poor.

                          Those overhead vidoes are amazing. Show how much is going on. My season tickets at Eden Park were always end on - the best view of who's working and who's shirking. Earl Kirton used to do this too ... 😛 But seriously, it was end on , or prime middle of the middle (which is $$$).

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                            They really missed an opportunity with the waterfront stadium or really redeveloping Eden Park into something great. Get cricket out of the main ground and redevelop the outer oval. The Paul Kelly stand was awesome to watch rugby and cricket from at Jade but it completely dwarfed the playing area and made it feel a lot smaller than it was.

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                              @LatsToTheMax the arrival of the ref at the ruck.

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                              @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              @LatsToTheMax the arrival of the ref at the ruck.

                              Barnes's angle wasn't great on that ruck. The AR should have called it - it was right in front of him. You can see Ardie yelling at him after the cleanout

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                                @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @LatsToTheMax the arrival of the ref at the ruck.

                                Barnes's angle wasn't great on that ruck. The AR should have called it - it was right in front of him. You can see Ardie yelling at him after the cleanout

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                                @nzzp said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                @LatsToTheMax the arrival of the ref at the ruck.

                                Barnes's angle wasn't great on that ruck. The AR should have called it - it was right in front of him. You can see Ardie yelling at him after the cleanout

                                ARs are only interested in foul play these days. Offsides and other mundane stuff is below them

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                                  ACT Crusader
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                                  The only thing I could see on the Ardie one was that there were still Irish players on their feet and perhaps Barnes thought they had already won it and Ardie was then off the ball.

                                  Less Irish players in the Whitelock one and simpler to see.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader the communication, confidence, trust and tenacity shown there has become very rare in the past 6 years. Amazing to watch that and see them just all lined up every time, getting off the ground and not panicking.

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                                    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @ACT-Crusader the communication, confidence, trust and tenacity shown there has become very rare in the past 6 years. Amazing to watch that and see them just all lined up every time, getting off the ground and not panicking.

                                    I might be getting sentimental in my old age, but that whole sequence made me feel pretty proud as an AB fan.

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                                      @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @ACT-Crusader the communication, confidence, trust and tenacity shown there has become very rare in the past 6 years. Amazing to watch that and see them just all lined up every time, getting off the ground and not panicking.

                                      I might be getting sentimental in my old age, but that whole sequence made me feel pretty proud as an AB fan.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @ACT-Crusader the communication, confidence, trust and tenacity shown there has become very rare in the past 6 years. Amazing to watch that and see them just all lined up every time, getting off the ground and not panicking.

                                      I might be getting sentimental in my old age, but that whole sequence made me feel pretty proud as an AB fan.

                                      I didn't believe the ABs had it in them to play that well for that long. At the end of the game I literally laughed out loud - it was a ridiculous win

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                                        Found this aerial view of the final sequence. It’s quite good in showing the defensive alignment of the ABs.

                                        Also credit to Ireland as they did very their attack throughout - short balls, long cut outs, wrap arounds - angled runs etc.

                                        https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Q6hPWXLhbryTb7D5/?mibextid=UalRPS

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                        Found this aerial view of the final sequence. It’s quite good in showing the defensive alignment of the ABs.

                                        Also credit to Ireland as they did very their attack throughout - short balls, long cut outs, wrap arounds - angled runs etc.

                                        https://www.facebook.com/share/r/Q6hPWXLhbryTb7D5/?mibextid=UalRPS

                                        Defence wins matches.

                                        Interesting listening to Jeremy Paul talking about that in the latest The Good, The Bad & The Rugby Australia & New Zealand podcast.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @ACT-Crusader the communication, confidence, trust and tenacity shown there has become very rare in the past 6 years. Amazing to watch that and see them just all lined up every time, getting off the ground and not panicking.

                                          I might be getting sentimental in my old age, but that whole sequence made me feel pretty proud as an AB fan.

                                          I didn't believe the ABs had it in them to play that well for that long. At the end of the game I literally laughed out loud - it was a ridiculous win

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                                          @nzzp said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          @ACT-Crusader the communication, confidence, trust and tenacity shown there has become very rare in the past 6 years. Amazing to watch that and see them just all lined up every time, getting off the ground and not panicking.

                                          I might be getting sentimental in my old age, but that whole sequence made me feel pretty proud as an AB fan.

                                          I didn't believe the ABs had it in them to play that well for that long. At the end of the game I literally laughed out loud - it was a ridiculous win

                                          In what was a decent scoring game and played a pretty high intensity, it wouldn’t be unusual for a team to falter or make a big play at the end.

                                          So with experience off the bench - Whitelock. ALB, Coles, Papali’i - combined with the already on - we genuinely lifted a gear. The discipline to not give away a penalty was something to behold given our propensity to give them away at a high rate in the preceding 3-4 years.

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