Springboks vs All Blacks 2
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@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
maybe a little random .... and can't see it happening -
But are we using NZs Stirling Mortlock too much at 12 rather than 13?
I just like the idea of Jordy hitting hard on to ALB short balls and deft little passes...
He’s also got the pace for centre as evidenced by his intercept
It's hard to detect sarcasm in print. You are being sarcastic right?
No
I was using the confusing SH terminology
He’s currently playing 2nd 5/8
You need more pace to play centre, especially speed endurance
JB has that, hence my comment
What JB have you been watching? He's not quick and he didn't look quick when he took that intercept.
He went in untouched from 51m
Quick enough for me
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
maybe a little random .... and can't see it happening -
But are we using NZs Stirling Mortlock too much at 12 rather than 13?
I just like the idea of Jordy hitting hard on to ALB short balls and deft little passes...
He’s also got the pace for centre as evidenced by his intercept
It's hard to detect sarcasm in print. You are being sarcastic right?
No
I was using the confusing SH terminology
He’s currently playing 2nd 5/8
You need more pace to play centre, especially speed endurance
JB has that, hence my comment
What JB have you been watching? He's not quick and he didn't look quick when he took that intercept.
He went in untouched from 51m
Quick enough for me
He was handed the ball by the Boks while all their backs were in attack mode and he had to jink near the line to avoid being run down.
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12- Havili
Under the pump, must win, coach feeling a little pressure, secret weapon.15- Jordie Barrett
His running game is needed at the back. Plus better opportunity to use his boot to clear the ballJacobson (if fit) to the bench.
If Clarke is out, they will likely start MT. I’d go for Reece for workrate.
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
maybe a little random .... and can't see it happening -
But are we using NZs Stirling Mortlock too much at 12 rather than 13?
I just like the idea of Jordy hitting hard on to ALB short balls and deft little passes...
He’s also got the pace for centre as evidenced by his intercept
It's hard to detect sarcasm in print. You are being sarcastic right?
No
I was using the confusing SH terminology
He’s currently playing 2nd 5/8
You need more pace to play centre, especially speed endurance
JB has that, hence my comment
What JB have you been watching? He's not quick and he didn't look quick when he took that intercept.
He went in untouched from 51m
Quick enough for me
He was handed the ball by the Boks while all their backs were in attack mode and he had to jink near the line to avoid being run down.
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
maybe a little random .... and can't see it happening -
But are we using NZs Stirling Mortlock too much at 12 rather than 13?
I just like the idea of Jordy hitting hard on to ALB short balls and deft little passes...
He’s also got the pace for centre as evidenced by his intercept
It's hard to detect sarcasm in print. You are being sarcastic right?
No
I was using the confusing SH terminology
He’s currently playing 2nd 5/8
You need more pace to play centre, especially speed endurance
JB has that, hence my comment
What JB have you been watching? He's not quick and he didn't look quick when he took that intercept.
He went in untouched from 51m
Quick enough for me
He was handed the ball by the Boks while all their backs were in attack mode and he had to jink near the line to avoid being run down.
Very true and most would have expected them to chase down a cart horse
But they didn’t
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@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
maybe a little random .... and can't see it happening -
But are we using NZs Stirling Mortlock too much at 12 rather than 13?
I just like the idea of Jordy hitting hard on to ALB short balls and deft little passes...
He’s also got the pace for centre as evidenced by his intercept
It's hard to detect sarcasm in print. You are being sarcastic right?
No
I was using the confusing SH terminology
He’s currently playing 2nd 5/8
You need more pace to play centre, especially speed endurance
JB has that, hence my comment
What JB have you been watching? He's not quick and he didn't look quick when he took that intercept.
He went in untouched from 51m
Quick enough for me
He was handed the ball by the Boks while all their backs were in attack mode and he had to jink near the line to avoid being run down.
Very true and most would have expected them to chase down a cart horse
But they didn’t
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
maybe a little random .... and can't see it happening -
But are we using NZs Stirling Mortlock too much at 12 rather than 13?
I just like the idea of Jordy hitting hard on to ALB short balls and deft little passes...
He’s also got the pace for centre as evidenced by his intercept
It's hard to detect sarcasm in print. You are being sarcastic right?
No
I was using the confusing SH terminology
He’s currently playing 2nd 5/8
You need more pace to play centre, especially speed endurance
JB has that, hence my comment
What JB have you been watching? He's not quick and he didn't look quick when he took that intercept.
He went in untouched from 51m
Quick enough for me
He was handed the ball by the Boks while all their backs were in attack mode and he had to jink near the line to avoid being run down.
Very true and most would have expected them to chase down a cart horse
But they didn’t
Fair to say he's so speedster. But he's no slug either
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
maybe a little random .... and can't see it happening -
But are we using NZs Stirling Mortlock too much at 12 rather than 13?
I just like the idea of Jordy hitting hard on to ALB short balls and deft little passes...
He’s also got the pace for centre as evidenced by his intercept
It's hard to detect sarcasm in print. You are being sarcastic right?
No
I was using the confusing SH terminology
He’s currently playing 2nd 5/8
You need more pace to play centre, especially speed endurance
JB has that, hence my comment
What JB have you been watching? He's not quick and he didn't look quick when he took that intercept.
He went in untouched from 51m
Quick enough for me
He was handed the ball by the Boks while all their backs were in attack mode and he had to jink near the line to avoid being run down.
Very true and most would have expected them to chase down a cart horse
But they didn’t
Fair to say he's so speedster. But he's no slug either
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
maybe a little random .... and can't see it happening -
But are we using NZs Stirling Mortlock too much at 12 rather than 13?
I just like the idea of Jordy hitting hard on to ALB short balls and deft little passes...
He’s also got the pace for centre as evidenced by his intercept
It's hard to detect sarcasm in print. You are being sarcastic right?
No
I was using the confusing SH terminology
He’s currently playing 2nd 5/8
You need more pace to play centre, especially speed endurance
JB has that, hence my comment
What JB have you been watching? He's not quick and he didn't look quick when he took that intercept.
He went in untouched from 51m
Quick enough for me
He was handed the ball by the Boks while all their backs were in attack mode and he had to jink near the line to avoid being run down.
Very true and most would have expected them to chase down a cart horse
But they didn’t
Fair to say he's so speedster. But he's no slug either
Yep
He’s no Jordan, or his brother
But he’s fast enough for that role
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I'd go with the same starting XV, but switch to a 6-2 bench and hope to hell we can can maintain power and discipline up front in the last 15 minutes next week.
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
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@MiketheSnow is doing his best to prove why Wales have been irrelevant for 70 years
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Jacobson20 Cane covering 7 and 8
Vaa’i to cover 6 now that he’s really stepped up in the second row
You’re welcome
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
It won't happen but would be nice to see what plummer could do off the bench.
If not, I hope Plummer gets a game against Australia. We know what DMac and BB offer, I want to see if Plummer can take his Blues performance up to test level. Just like Darry
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Nepia said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
maybe a little random .... and can't see it happening -
But are we using NZs Stirling Mortlock too much at 12 rather than 13?
I just like the idea of Jordy hitting hard on to ALB short balls and deft little passes...
He’s also got the pace for centre as evidenced by his intercept
It's hard to detect sarcasm in print. You are being sarcastic right?
No
I was using the confusing SH terminology
He’s currently playing 2nd 5/8
You need more pace to play centre, especially speed endurance
JB has that, hence my comment
What JB have you been watching? He's not quick and he didn't look quick when he took that intercept.
He went in untouched from 51m
Quick enough for me
He was handed the ball by the Boks while all their backs were in attack mode and he had to jink near the line to avoid being run down.
Very true and most would have expected them to chase down a cart horse
But they didn’t
Fair to say he's so speedster. But he's no slug either
Yep
He’s no Jordan, or his brother
But he’s fast enough for that role
@MiketheSnow probably faster than SBW
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
It won't happen but would be nice to see what plummer could do off the bench.
If not, I hope Plummer gets a game against Australia. We know what DMac and BB offer, I want to see if Plummer can take his Blues performance up to test level. Just like Darry
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
It won't happen but would be nice to see what plummer could do off the bench.
If not, I hope Plummer gets a game against Australia. We know what DMac and BB offer, I want to see if Plummer can take his Blues performance up to test level. Just like Darry
Most likely outcome is Perofeta comes back and so Plummer drops out of the squad without ever seeing if he is up to the level
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
It won't happen but would be nice to see what plummer could do off the bench.
If not, I hope Plummer gets a game against Australia. We know what DMac and BB offer, I want to see if Plummer can take his Blues performance up to test level. Just like Darry
Most likely outcome is Perofeta comes back and so Plummer drops out of the squad without ever seeing if he is up to the level
@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
It won't happen but would be nice to see what plummer could do off the bench.
If not, I hope Plummer gets a game against Australia. We know what DMac and BB offer, I want to see if Plummer can take his Blues performance up to test level. Just like Darry
Most likely outcome is Perofeta comes back and so Plummer drops out of the squad without ever seeing if he is up to the level
Yeah. Disappointing. I'd like to see a little more bravery in selection. Plummer was one of the two best 10s in the best team in Super Rugby. The other one was DMac. Perofeta couldn't even get a start most of the season. Wouldn't these guys be just a little curious?
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@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Jacobson20 Cane covering 7 and 8
Vaa’i to cover 6 now that he’s really stepped up in the second row
You’re welcome
@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Jacobson20 Cane covering 7 and 8
Vaa’i to cover 6 now that he’s really stepped up in the second row
You’re welcome
So you're saying 21 would be Lord?
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The "best player in the world" has come back from Japanese rugby to find Test rugby is a massive step up. All Blacks should only be selected out of Super Rugby.
Unfortunately New Zealand doesn't have an in form number eight or blindside flanker to replace the two that started the first Test. Pity the Blues weren't any good at confrontational forward battles this year.
I also can't see why anyone in their right mind would drop Rieko after the game he had.
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I also can't see why anyone in their right mind would drop Rieko after the game he had.
At the risk of sounding like a degenerate Hater, can I ask what Rieko did to apparently be un-droppable?
That was his best game this year but I think even then he was still our least effective back ball in hand.
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@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I also can't see why anyone in their right mind would drop Rieko after the game he had.
At the risk of sounding like a degenerate Hater, can I ask what Rieko did to apparently be un-droppable?
That was his best game this year but I think even then he was still our least effective back ball in hand.
@kpkanz said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I also can't see why anyone in their right mind would drop Rieko after the game he had.
At the risk of sounding like a degenerate Hater, can I ask what Rieko did to apparently be un-droppable?
That was his best game this year but I think even then he was still our least effective back ball in hand.
His defensive work was generally very, very good, positioned himself well with JB and he was effective at the breakdown. I don't think he's kicked on as much as we hoped, but that was a really solid effort and the JB/RI midfield worked pretty well.
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@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Jacobson20 Cane covering 7 and 8
Vaa’i to cover 6 now that he’s really stepped up in the second row
You’re welcome
So you're saying 21 would be Lord?
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Jacobson20 Cane covering 7 and 8
Vaa’i to cover 6 now that he’s really stepped up in the second row
You’re welcome
So you're saying 21 would be Lord?
Yeah but only if he’s less than 80% fit
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
It won't happen but would be nice to see what plummer could do off the bench.
Genuinely interested in what role you see him playing with the cattle in front of him.
I think DMac will be getting as much time as possible at 1st 5. Last night was only his 11th start at 1st 5 and he’s only played 6 tests off the bench where he was moved to 1st 5. Yes he’s got super experience at 10, but he needs to continue to develop in this role.
We do need other options no doubt about it and perhaps Plummer could be a 12 option, but it seems ALB has that bench spot sewn up.
