Springboks vs All Blacks 2
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
Liam Messam and Steven Luatua really were around in the wrong era weren't they?
They'd play 100+ tests each if they were around today.
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@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
Liam Messam and Steven Luatua really were around in the wrong era weren't they?
They'd play 100+ tests each if they were around today.
@African-Monkey said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
Liam Messam and Steven Luatua really were around in the wrong era weren't they?
They'd play 100+ tests each if they were around today.
Nah, he's a Blues loosie not named Papali'i, he wouldn't get a run now.
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Story of the season is surely Blackadder casting off his niggles moniker by being an 80 minute week in week out tyro.
WPOTY incoming.
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@Jet If he can learn not to go down like a sniper has shot him every time he goes into contact.
@African-Monkey said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Jet If he can learn not to go down like a sniper has shot him every time he goes into contact.
Fingers crossed it's all just part of getting back into rugby after a few years off. Granted that's better off done at a lower level than test rugby, but I guess at least if he does begin to actually be able to move bodies then he'll at least know the patterns..
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T Williams
C Taylor
T Lomax
S Barrett
T Va'ai
E Blackadder
S Cane
A Savea
C Ratima
D McKenzie
W Jordan
J Barrett
B Proctor
C Clarke
R Love@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
T Williams
C Taylor
T Lomax
S Barrett
T Va'ai
E Blackadder
S Cane
A Savea
C Ratima
D McKenzie
W Jordan
J Barrett
B Proctor
C Clarke
R LoveLucky no TJS or I’d think you had a Canes bias!
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@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
T Williams
C Taylor
T Lomax
S Barrett
T Va'ai
E Blackadder
S Cane
A Savea
C Ratima
D McKenzie
W Jordan
J Barrett
B Proctor
C Clarke
R LoveLucky no TJS or I’d think you had a Canes bias!
@pakman
I really think we should throw caution to the wind.
Start the above it'll certainly change the backline dynamic and who's to say not for the better.Bringing on fresh inexperienced guys in the last 15 minutes hasn't helped in the last couple of games.
How about reverse it and have BB, TJP and RI up your sleeve towards the end of the game if you need experience.
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Rassie can give Moodie, Am, AE, and Pollard a start. Nortje had such a great game and maybe give Kitshoff with Escom a run.
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
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@kpkanz said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I also can't see why anyone in their right mind would drop Rieko after the game he had.
At the risk of sounding like a degenerate Hater, can I ask what Rieko did to apparently be un-droppable?
That was his best game this year but I think even then he was still our least effective back ball in hand.
His defensive work was generally very, very good, positioned himself well with JB and he was effective at the breakdown. I don't think he's kicked on as much as we hoped, but that was a really solid effort and the JB/RI midfield worked pretty well.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@kpkanz said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I also can't see why anyone in their right mind would drop Rieko after the game he had.
At the risk of sounding like a degenerate Hater, can I ask what Rieko did to apparently be un-droppable?
That was his best game this year but I think even then he was still our least effective back ball in hand.
His defensive work was generally very, very good, positioned himself well with JB and he was effective at the breakdown. I don't think he's kicked on as much as we hoped, but that was a really solid effort and the JB/RI midfield worked pretty well.
And was ineffective on wing.
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Because TJ has always had zero composure, and BB was the worst offender at the back end of the last game under pressure.
@reprobate said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Because TJ has always had zero composure, and BB was the worst offender at the back end of the last game under pressure.
BB made some howlers against England, followed by some highlights reel plays. The howlers got ignored (putting ball out on the full, for instance). We got lucky then.
I don't think anyone expected this season to be what it is - a repeat of Foster's team, playing similar styles but with a few veterans not there. It's weird.
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@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
Liam Messam and Steven Luatua really were around in the wrong era weren't they?
They'd play 100+ tests each if they were around today.
@African-Monkey said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
switch to a 6-2
6 Blackadder
7 Papalii
8 Savea20 Jacobson
21 CaneDelicious
Liam Messam and Steven Luatua really were around in the wrong era weren't they?
They'd play 100+ tests each if they were around today.
Victor Vito is the one that comes to mind for me , that guy could have been anything but played in the wrong era sitting behind kaino and read .
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@reprobate said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Because TJ has always had zero composure, and BB was the worst offender at the back end of the last game under pressure.
BB made some howlers against England, followed by some highlights reel plays. The howlers got ignored (putting ball out on the full, for instance). We got lucky then.
I don't think anyone expected this season to be what it is - a repeat of Foster's team, playing similar styles but with a few veterans not there. It's weird.
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@nzzp dunno, with those vets gone and a new coaching team, I think I always expected there to be some struggles.
@taniwharugby said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@nzzp dunno, with those vets gone and a new coaching team, I think I always expected there to be some struggles.
Struggles maybe, but I didn't think we'd be seeing Cane starting at 7 and a bunch of 6.5 squaddies selected. And so far not much of a change in gameplan ... in fact do we konw what our gameplan is?
What I didn't expect was the poor mental performance late in games
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@nzzp dunno, with those vets gone and a new coaching team, I think I always expected there to be some struggles.
Struggles maybe, but I didn't think we'd be seeing Cane starting at 7 and a bunch of 6.5 squaddies selected. And so far not much of a change in gameplan ... in fact do we konw what our gameplan is?
What I didn't expect was the poor mental performance late in games
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Play the same 15 I say.
They are building quite nicely.
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Barrett has dined out on coming on as a sub and rinsing Maro Itoje on the outside to set up a try for the whole season. He has had plenty of gaffes since.
For all the talk of good comms and good positioning etc we conceded 38 against Argentina and 31 against the Boks. If Ruben Love is there are we gonna concede 50?
I don’t know how it can be any worse if we give Love or Ratima or Proctor or Sititi a go. The championship is essentially lost now.
DMAC and Beaudy put us under so much pressure with miracle chip and chases and cross field balls.
Remember the final passage against Ireland in 2013 where Crotty scored in the corner. We went 60 meters ball in hand. Nobody countenanced kicking it away.
Beaudy kicked it away twice in the last two minutes this weekend. He is completely gun shy.
Take contact set up another ruck and go again. We may even win a penalty .
Booting it away twice is ridiculous.
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Barrett has dined out on coming on as a sub and rinsing Maro Itoje on the outside to set up a try for the whole season. He has had plenty of gaffes since.
For all the talk of good comms and good positioning etc we conceded 38 against Argentina and 31 against the Boks. If Ruben Love is there are we gonna concede 50?
I don’t know how it can be any worse if we give Love or Ratima or Proctor or Sititi a go. The championship is essentially lost now.
DMAC and Beaudy put us under so much pressure with miracle chip and chases and cross field balls.
Remember the final passage against Ireland in 2013 where Crotty scored in the corner. We went 60 meters ball in hand. Nobody countenanced kicking it away.
Beaudy kicked it away twice in the last two minutes this weekend. He is completely gun shy.
Take contact set up another ruck and go again. We may even win a penalty .
Booting it away twice is ridiculous.
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
DMAC and Beaudy put us under so much pressure with miracle chip and chases and cross field balls.
Remember the final passage against Ireland in 2013 where Crotty scored in the corner. We went 60 meters ball in hand. Nobody countenanced kicking it away.
Beaudy kicked it away twice in the last two minutes this weekend. He is completely gun shy.
Take contact set up another ruck and go again. We may even win a penalty .
Booting it away twice is ridiculous.
Absolutely stupid!
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@nzzp dunno, with those vets gone and a new coaching team, I think I always expected there to be some struggles.
Struggles maybe, but I didn't think we'd be seeing Cane starting at 7 and a bunch of 6.5 squaddies selected. And so far not much of a change in gameplan ... in fact do we konw what our gameplan is?
What I didn't expect was the poor mental performance late in games
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
What I didn't expect was the poor mental performance late in games
yep, that isnt great.
looking across most of our super sides and what is coming through NPC, seems alot of 6.5s out there...
