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Springboks vs All Blacks 2

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  • K kpkanz

    It felt like they spent probably 25 minutes in our 22 while we had maybe 5 minutes in theirs.

    Most of the kicks we missed at goal, resulted in us being stuck in our 22 for the next 15 minutes.

    It's just a very odd game to review. We clearly showed we could get around the rush defense almost at will. We did it regularly, pretty much whenever we went wide we found space.

    Yet somehow, by the end of the game we just didn't capitalize on those opportunities while giving them enough to finally take the game from us.

    (ignoring the 9 points we left on the field from missed kicks).

    I think we easily have the talent (Vaaii and Sititi were outplaying the entire Bok pack).

    It also looks like our attack shape is really coming along now where we are back to making easy ground ball in hand and more importantly..we're doing it with very simple plays that are relatively low risk and match our players skill set.

    But it seems like we just made the worst mistake at the most crucial moment each time we could have. Like mentally and composure wise we have just COLLAPSED 2 weeks in a row.

    This is a very different situation to the Foster era where I felt our attack shape was genuinely non existent and horrible. One of the worst in top international rugby. Pretty much wasted 4 years of each backline players career.

    So it's a very different situation. Feels much more fixable currently...but also seems like the leadership group have to take full responsibility here. It should be on them to help guide the team to be PEAKING at the end of the game at crunch time, not the complete opposite which is what has occurred the last fortnight.

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    @kpkanz said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

    It also looks like our attack shape is really coming along now where we are back to making easy ground ball in hand and more importantly..we're doing it with very simple plays that are relatively low risk and match our players skill set.

    Don't want to be a Jeremiah, but did we ever look like scoring a try? Did we get within 1m of the Boks try-line?

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      @kpkanz said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

      @MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

      @kpkanz said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

      It felt like they spent probably 25 minutes in our 22 while we had maybe 5 minutes in theirs.

      Most of the kicks we missed at goal, resulted in us being stuck in our 22 for the next 15 minutes.

      It's just a very odd game to review. We clearly showed we could get around the rush defense almost at will. We did it regularly, pretty much whenever we went wide we found space.

      Yet somehow, by the end of the game we just didn't capitalize on those opportunities while giving them enough to finally take the game from us.

      (ignoring the 9 points we left on the field from missed kicks).

      I think we easily have the talent (Vaaii and Sititi were outplaying the entire Bok pack).

      It also looks like our attack shape is really coming along now where we are back to making easy ground ball in hand and more importantly..we're doing it with very simple plays that are relatively low risk and match our players skill set.

      But it seems like we just made the worst mistake at the most crucial moment each time we could have. Like mentally and composure wise we have just COLLAPSED 2 weeks in a row.

      This is a very different situation to the Foster era where I felt our attack shape was genuinely non existent and horrible. One of the worst in top international rugby. Pretty much wasted 4 years of each backline players career.

      So it's a very different situation. Feels much more fixable currently...but also seems like the leadership group have to take full responsibility here. It should be on them to help guide the team to be PEAKING at the end of the game at crunch time, not the complete opposite which is what has occurred the last fortnight.

      Did the ABs look like crossing the try line despite the quality and quantity of possession?

      Yes, regularly when we got into your half. Even in the first 10 minutes the only reason we didn't score was Ratima being tackled off the ball when it would have been a simple draw and pass.

      At least from my perspective.

      Fair enough, but that's the only time I remember

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      @MiketheSnow not that fair - ball carrier wasn’t looking to pass to him and Cortez was mainly interested in running a blocking line on Wiese

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        Reece and Telea were garbage in Argie test 1

        It's not a surprise they sucked again today.

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        @KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

        Reece and Telea were garbage in Argie test 1

        It's not a surprise they sucked again today.

        Telea has gone backwards faster than Caleb Clarke has improved. Wonder if we'll see Reiko on the wing and Proctor at 13 if Clarke is till injured.

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        • SmutsS Smuts

          @MiketheSnow not that fair - ball carrier wasn’t looking to pass to him and Cortez was mainly interested in running a blocking line on Wiese

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          @Smuts said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

          @MiketheSnow not that fair - ball carrier wasn’t looking to pass to him and Cortez was mainly interested in running a blocking line on Wiese

          The ball carrier was close though

          As close as any AB today

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @KiwiMurph said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

            Reece and Telea were garbage in Argie test 1

            It's not a surprise they sucked again today.

            Telea has gone backwards faster than Caleb Clarke has improved. Wonder if we'll see Reiko on the wing and Proctor at 13 if Clarke is till injured.

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

            Wonder if we'll see Reiko on the wing and Proctor at 13 if Clarke is till injured

            We should see it if Clarke is fit. Need 2 wingers.

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            • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

              Some guys have done really well Williams Taylor Lomax Vaai Cane Sititi Ratima
              There's hope

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              @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

              Some guys have done really well Williams Taylor Lomax Vaai Cane Sititi Ratima

              But collectively, the team lost it's head in the last 20minutes - again.

              That's why I'm so frustrated.

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                I have to say again - and until today I defended him - Ioane looked much more dangerous on the wing.

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                  And yes DMac has not kicked on, literally.

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                    Does anyone else think Scott Barrett is not back to peak form?

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                      Some guys have done really well Williams Taylor Lomax Vaai Cane Sititi Ratima

                      But collectively, the team lost it's head in the last 20minutes - again.

                      That's why I'm so frustrated.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                      @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                      Some guys have done really well Williams Taylor Lomax Vaai Cane Sititi Ratima

                      But collectively, the team lost it's head in the last 20minutes - again.

                      That's why I'm so frustrated.

                      Again some of the subs were lesser players.
                      Malcolm Marx made a serious difference too

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        I have to say again - and until today I defended him - Ioane looked much more dangerous on the wing.

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                        @nostrildamus Time for change need a passer

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                          Yuck. Predictable. Well done South Africa but like has been said, you guys aren't playing great. Doing enough though eh.

                          The emporer is naked as shit.

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                          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                            @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                            Some guys have done really well Williams Taylor Lomax Vaai Cane Sititi Ratima

                            But collectively, the team lost it's head in the last 20minutes - again.

                            That's why I'm so frustrated.

                            Again some of the subs were lesser players.
                            Malcolm Marx made a serious difference too

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                            @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                            @BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                            Some guys have done really well Williams Taylor Lomax Vaai Cane Sititi Ratima

                            But collectively, the team lost it's head in the last 20minutes - again.

                            That's why I'm so frustrated.

                            Again some of the subs were lesser players.
                            Malcolm Marx made a serious difference too

                            Exactly.

                            Make a difference.

                            We need players who make an impact.

                            We have bench players who come on and add fuck all. The likes of Ofa and Jacobson come to mind.

                            Either that or they are actually worse than that (think Perenara, Beauden, Finau last week etc)

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009

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                              @Duluth said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                              Boks have the Freedom Cup for the first time since 2009

                              First time they have won four in a row against the All Blacks since the 1940s.

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                              • K Kiwidom

                                We are also one of the dumbest teams in work rugby. Some stupid stuff in second half.

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                                @Kiwidom said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                We are also one of the dumbest teams in work rugby. Some stupid stuff in second half.

                                We have 1998 cattle but play with a 2015 game plan

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  Yuck. Predictable. Well done South Africa but like has been said, you guys aren't playing great. Doing enough though eh.

                                  The emporer is naked as shit.

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                                  @Bones still rather be a naked emperor though.

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                                  • P pakman

                                    I watched at pub and no ability to watch replay, but it just may be that Willie Le Roux was MOTM for that yellow. If that ball goes to hand must have been a good chance of try. If clear enough then a penalty try.

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                                    @pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                    I watched at pub and no ability to watch replay, but it just may be that Willie Le Roux was MOTM for that yellow. If that ball goes to hand must have been a good chance of try. If clear enough then a penalty try.

                                    In fact, Kolbe coming across to cover so would have been foot race between him and Reece.

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                                      Anyone notice touchie on unawarded DMac penalty at 72 unsure and looking back at Kolbe who signaled no goal? Would love to see another angle. Match winner if over.

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                                      • P pakman

                                        Anyone notice touchie on unawarded DMac penalty at 72 unsure and looking back at Kolbe who signaled no goal? Would love to see another angle. Match winner if over.

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                                        @pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                        Match winner if over.

                                        No. A 2 point lead with 8 minutes remaining.

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                                          We couldn’t have looked more erratic today if we tried. Well played Springboks.

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