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All Blacks vs Wallabies I

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    Fozzie won by 31 last year….

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      Fozzie won by 31 last year….

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      @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      Fozzie won by 31 last year….

      Is there an end date in sight for the Fozzie comparison comments?

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        Fozzie won by 31 last year….

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        @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        Fozzie won by 31 last year….

        You mean Fozzie Ryan Schmidt and co...

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          Fozzie won by 31 last year….

          Is there an end date in sight for the Fozzie comparison comments?

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          @KiwiMurph as soon as each and every Scott Robertson dickrider has come to terms with reality

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

            Fozzie won by 31 last year….

            You mean Fozzie Ryan Schmidt and co...

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            @nostrildamus So when he loses it’s Ian Fosters team, when he wins it’s Schmidt Ryan Foster and when Razor losses it’s Foster.

            It all makes sense now. Bit of twister to get there.

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            • Y Yeahtheboys

              Fozzie won by 31 last year….

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              @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              Fozzie won by 31 last year….

              Fozzie (et al) lost twice to SA last year. By 28 points in their first game in 2023 (Twickenham). ABs won by a mere 3 points in their first test against Aus last year. They drew with England in 2022 (Razor et al has beaten England twice in a row)...
              They lost by 16 points to SA in 2022 and by 7 points to Argentina in the same year and squeezed past Australia with 2 points clear and lost by 10 points and 11 points to Ireland.
              Some wins in there (including smashing Argentina) but going back doesn't make it look like the golden years. Drew against Australia in 2020 (that is when he took over I think?) Admittedly we looked good in 2021, against Fiji and Tonga. But take them and Italy and mighty Namibia out of the review and we looked pretty middling over most of 2020-2023.

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                Fozzie won by 31 last year….

                You mean Fozzie Ryan Schmidt and co...

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                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                Fozzie won by 31 last year….

                You mean Fozzie Ryan Schmidt and co...

                I look forward to every mention of Surf Jesus from now on:

                Razor, Rangi, Tubby Ryan the Blues hater, Hansen, Holland, Ellison and co.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  Fozzie won by 31 last year….

                  You mean Fozzie Ryan Schmidt and co...

                  I look forward to every mention of Surf Jesus from now on:

                  Razor, Rangi, Tubby Ryan the Blues hater, Hansen, Holland, Ellison and co.

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                  @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  Fozzie won by 31 last year….

                  You mean Fozzie Ryan Schmidt and co...

                  I look forward to every mention of Surf Jesus from now on:

                  Razor, Rangi, Tubby Ryan the Blues hater, Hansen, Holland, Ellison and co.

                  The Surf Apostles?

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    Fozzie won by 31 last year….

                    You mean Fozzie Ryan Schmidt and co...

                    I look forward to every mention of Surf Jesus from now on:

                    Razor, Rangi, Tubby Ryan the Blues hater, Hansen, Holland, Ellison and co.

                    The Surf Apostles?

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                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    Fozzie won by 31 last year….

                    You mean Fozzie Ryan Schmidt and co...

                    I look forward to every mention of Surf Jesus from now on:

                    Razor, Rangi, Tubby Ryan the Blues hater, Hansen, Holland, Ellison and co.

                    The Surf Apostles?

                    So we can simplify it down the The Bear Apostles and The Surf Apostles.

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                    • Y Yeahtheboys

                      @KiwiMurph as soon as each and every Scott Robertson dickrider has come to terms with reality

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                      @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      @KiwiMurph as soon as each and every Scott Robertson dickrider has come to terms with reality

                      So no.

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                        We've almost certainly lost the RC for the first time in years, have a team which goes to pieces in the last 20 minutes, a forward pack which is the epitome of inconsistency and a stuttering backline with minimal penetration. Not forgetting we have yet another "must win" game - this time against the 8th placed team in the world.

                        But the big, big argument seems to be it's nothing to worry about and the real important issue, deemed worthy of detailed analysis, is whether the current bloke in charge is less shit than the previous bloke.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          @KiwiMurph as soon as each and every Scott Robertson dickrider has come to terms with reality

                          So no.

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                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          @KiwiMurph as soon as each and every Scott Robertson dickrider has come to terms with reality

                          So no.

                          There's a button you can push... it would be better if people also stopped quoting cos button didn't stop that, sadly

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                            We've almost certainly lost the RC for the first time in years, have a team which goes to pieces in the last 20 minutes, a forward pack which is the epitome of inconsistency and a stuttering backline with minimal penetration. Not forgetting we have yet another "must win" game - this time against the 8th placed team in the world.

                            But the big, big argument seems to be it's nothing to worry about and the real important issue, deemed worthy of detailed analysis, is whether the current bloke in charge is less shit than the previous bloke.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew I think the record number of Test losses in a year is 5 in 1998. We're on to equal or better that - in fairness off 14 games not 7, but hey.

                            I really hope we're on the upward curve, but I'm yet to be convinced

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                                Speaking of upward curves and longterm issues
                                If I can suggest one glaring issue from a quick glance at match stats, our reserve bench almost never add points since the start of 2023 against major teams.
                                https://www.rugbydatabase.co.nz/team/index.php?teamId=3

                                The few that have are fast players for their position, DMac, Ioane, Coles etc.
                                Newell is there but in general we don't seem to be tiring the opposition, at most we are lucky to surprise them. Going back to 2023 reduced RWC, Clarke scored 1 off the bench against Oz but overall our bench is not a weapon.

                                I suggest the AB bench has been conservative and expecting to maintain a standard or push ahead due to supposed superior fitness - but if so, it isn't working.

                                Further, usually there are 3 or so tries by backs for every single try by forwards but there haven't been many tries overall apart from blowouts against minnows. Quite clearly one factor is the Bok's impressive defence:
                                https://www.rugbydatabase.co.nz/competition/index.php?competitionId=1546

                                I'm interested to see how the bench does in the Bledisloe.

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                                  It has to be said that 2024 is a very demanding itinerary for a young rebuilding AB team

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                                    It has to be said that 2024 is a very demanding itinerary for a young rebuilding AB team

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                                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    It has to be said that 2024 is a very demanding itinerary for a young rebuilding AB team

                                    Agreed. You can't keep looking at everything through the lens of the McCaw era.

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                                      The fuck? Has Landers not posted the team yet?

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                                        The fuck? Has Landers not posted the team yet?

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        The fuck? Has Landers not posted the team yet?

                                        @Landers92 what's the go bro?

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Victor-Meldrew I think the record number of Test losses in a year is 5 in 1998. We're on to equal or better that - in fairness off 14 games not 7, but hey.

                                          I really hope we're on the upward curve, but I'm yet to be convinced

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                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew I think the record number of Test losses in a year is 5 in 1998. We're on to equal or better that - in fairness off 14 games not 7, but hey.

                                          I really hope we're on the upward curve, but I'm yet to be convinced

                                          6 In 1949. But it has huge asterisk that the team losing four in SA without any Maori players, was playing at the same time as the best of the rest losing two (at home) to Aus.

                                          So 5 can be considered worst by unconditionally selected team.

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