Exodus 2017
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Gee, couldn't Rennie get a bigger and better coaching gig in Europe? Coaching the Glasgow Warriors will be a step down from coaching the Chiefs.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Gee, couldn't Rennie get a bigger and better coaching gig in Europe? Coaching the Glasgow Warriors will be a step down from coaching the Chiefs.</p>
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<p>I mentioned it in another thread but perhaps he wanted a specific type of contract with out clauses and many of the bigger clubs weren't interested in that?</p>
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<p>I'm more surprised the Townsend got the Scotland job seemingly without interviews/applications? Surely Rennie is a guy you look at for something like that?</p> -
You Chiefs boys should be hoping for Keane to take over.<br>
If he can get them humming in attack like the Mako$ a couple of seasons ago combined with your inherent filthy niggling, smiley, you'll be in great shape<br><br>
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<p>I mentioned it in another thread but perhaps he wanted a specific type of contract with out clauses and many of the bigger clubs weren't interested in that?</p>
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<p><strong>I'm more surprised the Townsend got the Scotland job seemingly without interviews/applications? </strong>Surely Rennie is a guy you look at for something like that?</p>
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<p>Not at all.</p>
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<p>1) He's Scottish</p>
<p>2) He has done a damn fine job with Glasgow</p>
<p>3) Rennie IMO has signed a 2 year contract with Glasgow and will return to NZ in 2019 as part of the assistant coaching panel for the 2019 RWC. I mean who can take over from Hansen? None of the current panel have any credentials as head coach, so that leaves IMO Rennie, Joseph, and probably Schmidt. I don't think the NZRFU would touch Gatland with a barge poll (rightly so IMO), Cotter has little real success on his CV, ditto for most other NZ coaches. I suppose if the Hurricanes lads can back-up next season, they will be in the mix too.</p> -
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<p>Not at all.</p>
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<p>1) He's Scottish</p>
<p>2) He has done a damn fine job with Glasgow</p>
<p>3) Rennie IMO has signed a 2 year contract with Glasgow and will return to NZ in 2019 as part of the assistant coaching panel for the 2019 RWC. I mean who can take over from Hansen? None of the current panel have any credentials as head coach, so that leaves IMO Rennie, Joseph, and probably Schmidt. I don't think the NZRFU would touch Gatland with a barge poll (rightly so IMO), Cotter has little real success on his CV, ditto for most other NZ coaches. I suppose if the Hurricanes lads can back-up next season, they will be in the mix too.</p>
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<p>Not surprised by the appointment. Surprised by the timing and lack of a comprehensive search. To appoint someone this far out and without seeing what else is out there is unusual - especially for a team that needs all the help it can get to overperform.</p>
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<p>You Chiefs boys should be hoping for Keane to take over.</p>
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<p>Keane would be my choice.</p>
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<p>The official media release on the Chiefs website:</p>
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<p>Following his huge success with the Chiefs, Dave Rennie has been appointed Head Coach for the Glasgow Warriors in Scotland and will take up his new role at the completion of the 2017 Investec Super Rugby season. </p>
<p>Dave said it is with mixed emotions that he leaves the Chiefs. </p>
<p>“I have loved my time here and leave with a heavy heart. Iâ€
ve been fortunate to work with fantastic people and I am exceptionally proud of the men who represent us and what we have achieved over the past 5 years.†</p>
<p>Dave, who formerly coached Wellington, Manawatu and the New Zealand Under-20s, joined the Chiefs in 2012 and proceeded to take the Club to its maiden title in his first year. In 2013 he led the team to win a back to back championship and has since steered the team into the Super Rugby playoffs every year. </p>
<p>“Steph and I are really looking forward to a new phase in our lives. We are really impressed with what we have seen in Glasgow, the history, the people, the lifestyle. The Warriors are really aspirational, have good people, and have created a great culture under Gregor. But thereâ€s a big job to be done here in 2017 before we pack our bags,†Dave said. </p>
<p>Chiefs Rugby Club CEO Andrew Flexman said while he has known about Daveâ€s intention to coach abroad for some time, he will be missed by the entire organisation. </p>
<p>“I wish Dave every success with the next chapter in his distinguished coaching career. We at the Chiefs are clearly disappointed to lose the services of such a talented coach.†</p>
<p>Dave will lead the Chiefs through his 6<span>th </span>Investec Super Rugby campaign for the 2017 season before taking up his new position for the beginning of the Northern 2017/18 season. </p>
<p>“We have a very exciting playing roster for 2017 and I know Dave will be determined to go out on a high note. The squad will not lack for motivation either given the contribution Dave has made to the success of this Club,†Flexman said. </p>
<p><strong>Flexman says they are well advanced in discussions around a replacement. </strong></p>
<p><strong>“We hope to be in a position to confirm a new Head Coach for the Chiefs over the next few months.â€</strong></p>
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Players off contract in 2017:
Kieran Read, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Cory Jane, Israel Dagg, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith, Charlie Faumuina, Sam Cane, Steven Luatua, Malakai Fekitoa, Hikawera Elliot, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, James Broadhurst, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Brad Weber, Charlie Ngatai and Ryan Crotty
Who do we really not want to lose, thinking ahead to 2019...?
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Players off contract in 2017:
Kieran Read, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Cory Jane, Israel Dagg, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith, Charlie Faumuina, Sam Cane, Steven Luatua, Malakai Fekitoa, Hikawera Elliot, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, James Broadhurst, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Brad Weber, Charlie Ngatai and Ryan Crotty
Who do we really not want to lose, thinking ahead to 2019...?
@Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:
Players off contract in 2017:
Kieran Read, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Cory Jane, Israel Dagg, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith, Charlie Faumuina, Sam Cane, Steven Luatua, Malakai Fekitoa, Hikawera Elliot, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, James Broadhurst, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Brad Weber, Charlie Ngatai and Ryan Crotty
Who do we really not want to lose, thinking ahead to 2019...?
All of them. But Whitelock the most because he and BBBR are light years ahead of the chasing pack.
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This is good news if comes to pass.
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Players off contract in 2017:
Kieran Read, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Cory Jane, Israel Dagg, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith, Charlie Faumuina, Sam Cane, Steven Luatua, Malakai Fekitoa, Hikawera Elliot, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, James Broadhurst, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Brad Weber, Charlie Ngatai and Ryan Crotty
Who do we really not want to lose, thinking ahead to 2019...?
@Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:
Players off contract in 2017:
Kieran Read, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Cory Jane, Israel Dagg, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith, Charlie Faumuina, Sam Cane, Steven Luatua, Malakai Fekitoa, Hikawera Elliot, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, James Broadhurst, Tawera Kerr Barlow, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Waisake Naholo, Brad Weber, Charlie Ngatai and Ryan Crotty
Who do we really not want to lose, thinking ahead to 2019...?
I think it's likely that Jane, Elliot and Broadhurst will cash in elsewhere.
Of those that I think we could lose without too much angst I would nominate Dagg, Luatua, Fekitoa, Ngatai (only because we are doing without him already). Weber wouldn't be a massive loss either.
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Lolagi Visinia to Grenoble
http://fcgrugby.com/articles/2016/11/18/lolagi-visinia-au-fcg-la-saison-prochaine
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Machine translation:
Lolagi Visinia has signed for two seasons with the FCG
Lolagi Visinia will join Grenoble next season for two years. International U20 and 7, Lolagi Visinia can play with the wing, the middle and the rear. Powerful (1.92m, 101kg), the 23-year-old New Zealander played for Auckland in Miter 10 Cup and for the Blues in Super Rugby and will experience in Isère his first experience in Europe.
Bernard Jackman presents it as "one of the brightest utility backs of New Zealand. He has been playing for Auckland and the Auckland Blues since he was 18 years old. And despite his young age he already has a lot of experience. It can play the wing and the rear but also second center with a big power at the impact. His game at the foot is also very interesting. He refused an offer from the Crusaders to come to the FCG and discover the Top14, so it's a real pleasure for us to welcome him. "
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Machine translation:
Lolagi Visinia has signed for two seasons with the FCG
Lolagi Visinia will join Grenoble next season for two years. International U20 and 7, Lolagi Visinia can play with the wing, the middle and the rear. Powerful (1.92m, 101kg), the 23-year-old New Zealander played for Auckland in Miter 10 Cup and for the Blues in Super Rugby and will experience in Isère his first experience in Europe.
Bernard Jackman presents it as "one of the brightest utility backs of New Zealand. He has been playing for Auckland and the Auckland Blues since he was 18 years old. And despite his young age he already has a lot of experience. It can play the wing and the rear but also second center with a big power at the impact. His game at the foot is also very interesting. He refused an offer from the Crusaders to come to the FCG and discover the Top14, so it's a real pleasure for us to welcome him. "
@Tim Maybe I'm reading too much in it, but if he has signed with Grenoble for next season, then the Crusaders wanted him for more than a year, or not at all. If they would have agreed to a one year contract, he could have accepted that and then after the season leave for Grenoble? Unless they offered only a WTG spot.
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Not a major loss. Never really reached the heights clearly overtaken by Nanai.
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Leinster targetting Dagg apparently.
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Leinster targetting Dagg apparently.
@Billy-Tell said in Exodus 2017:
Leinster targetting Dagg apparently.
Hmmm, the way he's going now, having worked so hard to get back in that black jersey, I can't see Dagg leaving after the 2017 season. It would be different if he had a crystal ball saying he won't make the squad for the Lions tour, but lacking that ...
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Leinster targetting Dagg apparently.
@Billy-Tell Thats surprising. As he's one of the ones being slandered for a high tackle which should have been red-carded etc ...
Thought that sort of stuff wasn't condoned.
