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All Blacks vs Wallabies I

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    Thanks for posting

    It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

    Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

    In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

    Exits are seriously frustrating! Why this isn't a priority, I don't know. It has been the AB's Achilles heel for a while now. Contrast it to the Boks and Ireland .......

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    Thanks for posting

    It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

    Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

    In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

    Exits are seriously frustrating! Why this isn't a priority, I don't know. It has been the AB's Achilles heel for a while now. Contrast it to the Boks and Ireland .......

    I agree, not just a current regime problem. I cant believe how poor we have been at these even under the previous regime too. Unfortunately though, nothing appears to have changed "yet"

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      Thanks for posting

      It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

      Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

      In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      Thanks for posting

      It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

      Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

      In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

      Sounds like a dribbling bullshit artist, no wait, a poorly educated consultant used car salesman. Starts off with 'oh, learnings around...'

      Talks about what he wants to talk about ably assisted by the hard hitting Dorothy Dixers from Goldie.

      It would be nice to hear a question that results in the coaches looking uncomfortable. Perhaps in the heat of the moment immediately afterwards on a hot mic being caught calling the reporter a fluffybunny.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @Nepia Isn't all those guys with Canes affiliations we need to be shot of (according to popular opinion here?)

        TJ, Ardie, Beauden - and Cane himself! We might lose Jordie as collateral damage, but why worry?

        Seems like Hammer's just the man! 🙂

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        @Chris-B Cane? What have I missed?

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        • A akan004

          They continue to reward poor performers. How Reece gets a second chance off the bench after what happened in Cape Town is beyond me. Very conservative selections once again.

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          @akan004 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          They continue to reward poor performers. How Reece gets a second chance off the bench after what happened in Cape Town is beyond me. Very conservative selections once again.

          Not just Capetown.

          Reece has had two disastrous aerial contests this season.

          Batted the ball back to an Argentinian try scorer which started the rot in that loss, and naively got himself carded against the Boks contesting another kick.

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          • S stodders

            @Kirwan like when a superior ABs team smashed the French twice in France in 2006, then proceeded to lose against the same team in the QF in 2007?

            Or when a superior ABs beat a France team without a coach comfortably in the pool stages, then squeaked home in the final (albeit without Carter)?

            Or when the ABs squeaked home against Ireland one week, then smashed them by 60 the next week?

            Maybe the Ozzies will play well at home, with home support, and emotion will keep them in the game. Rugby is a funny old game. There is no given. no matter how good your team is. Especially if you go into it expecting to win. That is normally when egg hits the face and monumental upsets happen 🙂

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            @stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

            @Kirwan like when a superior ABs team smashed the French twice in France in 2006, then proceeded to lose against the same team in the QF in 2007?

            Or when a superior ABs beat a France team without a coach comfortably in the pool stages, then squeaked home in the final (albeit without Carter)?

            Or when the ABs squeaked home against Ireland one week, then smashed them by 60 the next week?

            Maybe the Ozzies will play well at home, with home support, and emotion will keep them in the game. Rugby is a funny old game. There is no given. no matter how good your team is. Especially if you go into it expecting to win. That is normally when egg hits the face and monumental upsets happen 🙂

            I reckon this weekend is tight as ducks arse scoreboard wise.

            We will drop to their level and they will rise to the occasion.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              Thanks for posting

              It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

              Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

              In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

              Sounds like a dribbling bullshit artist, no wait, a poorly educated consultant used car salesman. Starts off with 'oh, learnings around...'

              Talks about what he wants to talk about ably assisted by the hard hitting Dorothy Dixers from Goldie.

              It would be nice to hear a question that results in the coaches looking uncomfortable. Perhaps in the heat of the moment immediately afterwards on a hot mic being caught calling the reporter a fluffybunny.

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              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              Thanks for posting

              It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

              Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

              In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

              Sounds like a dribbling bullshit artist, no wait, a poorly educated consultant used car salesman. Starts off with 'oh, learnings around...'

              Talks about what he wants to talk about ably assisted by the hard hitting Dorothy Dixers from Goldie.

              It would be nice to hear a question that results in the coaches looking uncomfortable. Perhaps in the heat of the moment immediately afterwards on a hot mic being caught calling the reporter a fluffybunny.

              The last few coaching tickets have all loved the smell of their own farts.

              The three wise men moniker only works when you are winning relentlessly.

              There is a real holier than thou "forgive them for they know not what they do" attitude from the likes of Jase and Hansen when answering questions from media. "Dont worry, we know better".
              And thats fine, when the results back it up.

              When the tide goes out you see who isnt wearing any trunks.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

                Probably 🙂 - but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.

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                @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                Yet another conservtive selection in I guess what is pitched as a "must win" game.

                Form in SR seems totally irrelevant now.

                Same issue of "favourites" being picked and others playing out of position to accommodate, especially in the loose forward trio.

                At this rate we won't get any new talent in the team until someone retires or is hideously injured.

                Which is exactly what people used to constantly criticise Foster for.

                Probably 🙂 - but, we're fielding Sititi, Ratima, Aumua, Tosi and Darry - so 20 percent of the team is effectively newbies.

                Exactly there is too many glass half empty fullas on here.
                We got a forward pack to rival anyone.
                There is progress being made

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                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                  Let's face it most people are lighter than Foz

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                  @dogmeat said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  Let's face it most people are lighter than Foz

                  Breakdancing muscle is heavier than mooloo padding.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    Do we think Sam Cane gets his 99th on Saturday, 100th the following week and then misses EOYT?

                    Reckon they'll stick with him and look for new 7 the next couple of years. Dunno who though.

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                    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    Do we think Sam Cane gets his 99th on Saturday, 100th the following week and then misses EOYT?

                    Reckon they'll stick with him and look for new 7 the next couple of years. Dunno who though.

                    Lakai?

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                      I am not too worried by Tosi's scrummaging as he will face Slipper who is a shadow of his former self (a former self who has never set the world on fire, TBH). I am eager to see what he can bring in the loose. They should use him as a battering ram in midfield, among the backs, to create havoc in the Aussie defense.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                        @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                        Thanks for posting

                        It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

                        Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

                        In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

                        Sounds like a dribbling bullshit artist, no wait, a poorly educated consultant used car salesman. Starts off with 'oh, learnings around...'

                        Talks about what he wants to talk about ably assisted by the hard hitting Dorothy Dixers from Goldie.

                        It would be nice to hear a question that results in the coaches looking uncomfortable. Perhaps in the heat of the moment immediately afterwards on a hot mic being caught calling the reporter a fluffybunny.

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                        @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                        Thanks for posting

                        It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

                        Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

                        In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

                        Sounds like a dribbling bullshit artist, no wait, a poorly educated consultant used car salesman. Starts off with 'oh, learnings around...'

                        Talks about what he wants to talk about ably assisted by the hard hitting Dorothy Dixers from Goldie.

                        It would be nice to hear a question that results in the coaches looking uncomfortable. Perhaps in the heat of the moment immediately afterwards on a hot mic being caught calling the reporter a fluffybunny.

                        Fucking. A.
                        Whenever somebody is using phrases like "I feel..", "... talking around ... ... what that looks like.".... fuck off.
                        "We've talked about winning. We've talked about winning moments, we've talked about walking towards the pressure and looking forward to it.." - yeah, mate, I'm sold. 5 year extended warranty you said? Bargain!

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                        • KruseK Kruse

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          Thanks for posting

                          It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

                          Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

                          In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

                          Sounds like a dribbling bullshit artist, no wait, a poorly educated consultant used car salesman. Starts off with 'oh, learnings around...'

                          Talks about what he wants to talk about ably assisted by the hard hitting Dorothy Dixers from Goldie.

                          It would be nice to hear a question that results in the coaches looking uncomfortable. Perhaps in the heat of the moment immediately afterwards on a hot mic being caught calling the reporter a fluffybunny.

                          Fucking. A.
                          Whenever somebody is using phrases like "I feel..", "... talking around ... ... what that looks like.".... fuck off.
                          "We've talked about winning. We've talked about winning moments, we've talked about walking towards the pressure and looking forward to it.." - yeah, mate, I'm sold. 5 year extended warranty you said? Bargain!

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                          @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          Thanks for posting

                          It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

                          Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

                          In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

                          Sounds like a dribbling bullshit artist, no wait, a poorly educated consultant used car salesman. Starts off with 'oh, learnings around...'

                          Talks about what he wants to talk about ably assisted by the hard hitting Dorothy Dixers from Goldie.

                          It would be nice to hear a question that results in the coaches looking uncomfortable. Perhaps in the heat of the moment immediately afterwards on a hot mic or being caught calling the reporter a fluffybunny.

                          Fucking. A.
                          Whenever somebody is using phrases like "I feel..", "... talking around ... ... what that looks like.".... fuck off.
                          "We've talked about winning. We've talked about winning moments, we've talked about walking towards the pressure and looking forward to it.." - yeah, mate, I'm sold. 5 year extended warranty you said? Bargain!

                          Listening to Ardie talking at the presser and after a few minutes laughed and said to myself he talks absolute bollocks

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            Thanks for posting

                            It's interesting to hear him talk about how well set piece is going but he doesn't touch on exits/restarts.

                            Our exit/restart work sucks every game in this regime

                            In 2024 set piece should also include kickoffs/restarts in my view

                            Sounds like a dribbling bullshit artist, no wait, a poorly educated consultant used car salesman. Starts off with 'oh, learnings around...'

                            Talks about what he wants to talk about ably assisted by the hard hitting Dorothy Dixers from Goldie.

                            It would be nice to hear a question that results in the coaches looking uncomfortable. Perhaps in the heat of the moment immediately afterwards on a hot mic being caught calling the reporter a fluffybunny.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            It would be nice to hear a question that results in the coaches looking uncomfortable. Perhaps in the heat of the moment immediately afterwards on a hot mic being caught calling the reporter a fluffybunny.

                            Do that and NZ Rugby ensures you don't get access to the team or coaching staff so in general MSM are a collective fan club -when interviewing.

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                            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              I think Ardie and Paps should play 7 on the EOYT after Cane gets the 💯
                              Sititi to 8

                              God fucking dammit if I see one more "Ardie should start at 7" post...

                              Based on fucking what? He's been at 8 for like 5 years. No part of his game looks like a restrained 7.

                              This feels like "Ardie is playing shit but it's not his fault" opinion because he's one of the black shirted untouchables

                              But Ardie played 7 last season in Japan.......
                              ....like Scott Robertson set up an U19 team at Sumner Rugby Club

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              I think Ardie and Paps should play 7 on the EOYT after Cane gets the 💯
                              Sititi to 8

                              God fucking dammit if I see one more "Ardie should start at 7" post...

                              Based on fucking what? He's been at 8 for like 5 years. No part of his game looks like a restrained 7.

                              This feels like "Ardie is playing shit but it's not his fault" opinion because he's one of the black shirted untouchables

                              But Ardie played 7 last season in Japan.......
                              ....like Scott Robertson set up an U19 team at Sumner Rugby Club

                              I remember when @kiwi_expat used to go on about Razor's heroics at Sumner all the time haha.

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                                  @voodoo oooh interesting.

                                  I do think this Wallabies team are chance to win but they could just as easily get hammered.

                                  Its unlikely the Wallabies will have to face a second half resurgence from the ABs like they did in that 2nd Pumas test.

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                                    @voodoo oooh interesting.

                                    I do think this Wallabies team are chance to win but they could just as easily get hammered.

                                    Its unlikely the Wallabies will have to face a second half resurgence from the ABs like they did in that 2nd Pumas test.

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                                    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    I do think this Wallabies team are chance to win but they could just as easily get hammered.

                                    They are paying $8 at Betfair. Mind you, Argentina was similar and look how that turned out.

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                                      The Ardie to 7 conversation is here:
                                      https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6899/should-ardie-play-7

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                                        @voodoo oooh interesting.

                                        I do think this Wallabies team are chance to win but they could just as easily get hammered.

                                        Its unlikely the Wallabies will have to face a second half resurgence from the ABs like they did in that 2nd Pumas test.

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                                        @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        I do think this Wallabies team are chance to win but they could just as easily get hammered.

                                        They will know that they need to win this game to have a chance of winning the BC.

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                                          Bell
                                          Faessler
                                          Tupou
                                          Frost
                                          Williams
                                          Valetini
                                          McReight
                                          Wilson (c)
                                          White
                                          Lolesio
                                          Koroibete
                                          Paisami
                                          Ikitau
                                          Kellaway
                                          Wright

                                          BPA, Slipper, AAA, LSL, Gleeson, Taint, Lynagh, Pietsch

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                                          @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          Bell
                                          Faessler
                                          Tupou
                                          Frost
                                          Williams
                                          Valetini
                                          McReight
                                          Wilson (c)
                                          White
                                          Lolesio
                                          Koroibete
                                          Paisami
                                          Ikitau
                                          Kellaway
                                          Wright

                                          BPA, Slipper, AAA, LSL, Gleeson, Taint, Lynagh, Pietsch

                                          That is still a pretty good Wallaby team, backline especially could fire. Bench might lack a bit but don’t expect this to be a walkover- ABs by 12.

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