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All Blacks vs Pumas I

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  • P pakman

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/29735/all-blacks-team-named-for-third-investec-rugby-championship-test

    Apart from the Latin name, Luke R is considered a top scrummaging lock, whereas Pat T, whilst a powerhouse everywhere else, can't seem to put the rubber on the road in the scrums?!

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Pumas I:

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/29735/all-blacks-team-named-for-third-investec-rugby-championship-test

    Apart from the Latin name, Luke R is considered a top scrummaging lock, whereas Pat T, whilst a powerhouse everywhere else, can't seem to put the rubber on the road in the scrums?!

    One of the great myths I reckon.

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      @pakman said in All Blacks vs Pumas I:

      http://www.allblacks.com/News/29735/all-blacks-team-named-for-third-investec-rugby-championship-test

      Apart from the Latin name, Luke R is considered a top scrummaging lock, whereas Pat T, whilst a powerhouse everywhere else, can't seem to put the rubber on the road in the scrums?!

      One of the great myths I reckon.

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      @Billy-Tell I hope Pat hasn't fallen out of favour completely. I'd much rather have him coming on with 20 to go ahead of Romano.

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        He was an absolute beast coming off the bench before the injury ,

        To be honest I havent been paying enough attention to notice how far away he has been from that level when given the opportunity since the comeback ?

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          I don't really rate Pat T as a scrummager, but I do agree that Romero hasn't set the world on fire. Our scrum is best with BBBR at TH lock. And with 20 to go Pat T does damage. He's a natural ball carrier, whereas Lukeo is not.

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            something must be up with tuipolotou, he didn't get a run against the aussies which makes the 'argies scrum strongly' argument moot. romano has been a bit underwhelming, so i'm glad they're giving this new romero guy a crack - he'll probably be able to translate their lineout calls too.

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              We could all notice that Romano seems to have become a lot bigger the last few months. That's probably what the coaches expected of him, to increase his physicality against teams such as the Pumas and the Boks?

              Anyway, I'd replace both Romano and Tuipulotu by Bird, if I could. He should be picked for the EOYT the way he's been playing for the Chiefs & now Canterbury, but I'm not sure how many players will be selected that are not already in the squad now.

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              • R reprobate

                something must be up with tuipolotou, he didn't get a run against the aussies which makes the 'argies scrum strongly' argument moot. romano has been a bit underwhelming, so i'm glad they're giving this new romero guy a crack - he'll probably be able to translate their lineout calls too.

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                #130

                @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Pumas I:

                something must be up with tuipolotou, he didn't get a run against the aussies which makes the 'argies scrum strongly' argument moot. romano has been a bit underwhelming, so i'm glad they're giving this new romero guy a crack - he'll probably be able to translate their lineout calls too.

                Hopefully this Romero lad doesn't immediately fall over after contact like the other Luke.

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                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                  Any suggestions on where to watch it in Ho Chi Minh City guys?

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                  @dogmeat said in All Blacks vs Pumas I:

                  Any suggestions on where to watch it in Ho Chi Minh City guys?

                  Phattys off Pasteur st. Good pb for sports DM

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                    Fuck that's a boring team. We're really scraping the barrell trying to have a discussion about Pat T v Romano v Romero.

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                      2004 was the last divisive team selection...

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                      • I infidel

                        Why/how do they name the team at 5am NZT for a home test?

                        Media release embargoed until 5am?

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                        @infidel said in All Blacks vs Pumas I:

                        Why/how do they name the team at 5am NZT for a home test?

                        Media release embargoed until 5am?

                        For the newspapers. Which is quaint, but appreciated.

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                        • F Frye

                          @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Pumas I:

                          something must be up with tuipolotou, he didn't get a run against the aussies which makes the 'argies scrum strongly' argument moot. romano has been a bit underwhelming, so i'm glad they're giving this new romero guy a crack - he'll probably be able to translate their lineout calls too.

                          Hopefully this Romero lad doesn't immediately fall over after contact like the other Luke.

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                          @Frye said in All Blacks vs Pumas I:

                          Hopefully this Romero lad doesn't immediately fall over after contact like the other Luke.

                          I hear he's fairly handy in the Argentinean goal.

                          Ofa T, Pat T, DMac and TKB have been released to play in the Auckland-Waikato game on Sunday.

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                            @Stargazer yep he sure looks bigger but by the looks a lot of that is down to pies at the old servo. Perhaps he's using Hansen as a role model ?

                            So him and Savea don't get a start despite images saying that they were in with a shot.

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                              Firstly, sorry mods, but this new board sucks ass. Scroll city and too much white space. Anyway, I must be getting old.. opps, yes I am. lol

                              As for the team, why the fuck are they picking Izzy on the wing, that's ridiculous, he's not a bloody winger. You can't tell me we can't pick a specialist winger in the side. Surely Ben to wing and Izzy to fullback. I mean he won't embarass us but I like Izzy's kicking at the back, and Ben is a great winger. Don't know why Hansen continually pisses about with the back three. Don't need another '99 thanks.

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                                @LagerLout this new board is head and shoulders better than the old version. You just need to learn.

                                Hansen is running with 2 15's rather than two wingers. Watch them interchange

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                                  @LagerLout does a winger need to get a hat trick every game to get a pass mark from you ? if that's the case Dagg did come up short, he'll be desperate to redeem himself this weekend against the Argies.

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                                    @LagerLout does a winger need to get a hat trick every game to get a pass mark from you ? if that's the case Dagg did come up short, he'll be desperate to redeem himself this weekend against the Argies.

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                                    @MN5 I don't know actually, you must be watching everything I post if that's the case. Since when was Israel a winger please, or am I missing something?

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                                      Well he got two tries and played extremely well, that's a winger in my book

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                                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                                        @LagerLout this new board is head and shoulders better than the old version. You just need to learn.

                                        Hansen is running with 2 15's rather than two wingers. Watch them interchange

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                                        @Hooroo said in All Blacks vs Pumas I:

                                        @LagerLout this new board is head and shoulders better than the old version. You just need to learn.

                                        Hansen is running with 2 15's rather than two wingers. Watch them interchange

                                        Exactly my reference to 99. Is Israel our best alternative Winger in the country? They may interchange but he has to play this position for the proportion of the game. Before you have a pop, I'm a massive fan of Israel, go back and look at my posts if you care too. I just don't think he should be on the wing when Ben is a better winger and Israel IMO is a better fullback. The starting positions seem odd to me.

                                        Anyway, I'm pleased both are in the team, and I'm sure they'll be fine, I personally prefer specialists in most positions.

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                                        • LagerLoutL LagerLout

                                          @MN5 I don't know actually, you must be watching everything I post if that's the case. Since when was Israel a winger please, or am I missing something?

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                                          @LagerLout Did you miss him on the wing in the last game? He went alright and they switched it up a bit.

                                          I think this is related to BFA being the best in the world, and Dagg being the next best option for the wing/FB position. He's basically taken over from Jane while NMS is out.

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