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All Blacks vs Wallabies I

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  • K KiwiInLondon

    The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

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    DaGrubster
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    @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

    I agree with this.

    5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

    Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

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    • TimT Tim

      Narawa must be wondering what he did wrong.

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      @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      Narawa must be wondering what he did wrong.

      Speaking of ineffective cleans, Reece may be a live wire but he is a little body and cleans like one. We were in deep shit every time he was forced to clean.

      See also Will Jordan on this.

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      • gt12G gt12

        @mariner4life

        Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

        His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

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        @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        @mariner4life

        Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

        His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

        They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

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        • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods

          Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.

          You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby

          Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?

          Schmidt didn’t want to work with Razor is what I heard.

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          @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods

          Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.

          You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby

          Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?

          Schmidt didn’t want to work with Razor is what I heard.

          Can see why....

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          • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

            This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.

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            @Darth-Sader and a lack of fitness can lead to poor decision making and execution

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            • D DaGrubster

              @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

              I agree with this.

              5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

              Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

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              Jet
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              #1361

              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

              I agree with this.

              5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

              Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

              Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

              ALB has 72.

              There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

              The former is much worse than the latter.

              If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder at home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                Narawa must be wondering what he did wrong.

                Speaking of ineffective cleans, Reece may be a live wire but he is a little body and cleans like one. We were in deep shit every time he was forced to clean.

                See also Will Jordan on this.

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                Frank
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                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                See also Will Jordan on this.

                Feel like he is overrated.
                Riding the back of the space created by better AB teams.
                Love would be a better option at 15.
                Jordan is a 14 or nothing.

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                  We start games like a Rolls Royce, and finish like a Datsun on three wheels.

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                    KiwiMurph
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                    At least Razor will get to drink out of the Bledisloe

                    Something he never did as a player - being capped during the dark years of 98-02.

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                      What the hell is up with TMOs and ridiculous knock on calls against the ABs lately? Springboks game one was decided by that margin and this one almost as well. There needs to be some accountability. Unbelievable

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        At least Razor will get to drink out of the Bledisloe

                        Something he never did as a player - being capped during the dark years of 98-02.

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                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                        At least Razor will get to drink out of the Bledisloe

                        Something he never did as a player - being capped during the dark years of 98-02.

                        Oh wow!
                        That makes me feel a lot better!

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                        • D DaGrubster

                          @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                          I agree with this.

                          5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                          Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

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                          kev
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                          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                          I agree with this.

                          5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                          Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                          Agree

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                          • F Frank

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            See also Will Jordan on this.

                            Feel like he is overrated.
                            Riding the back of the space created by better AB teams.
                            Love would be a better option at 15.
                            Jordan is a 14 or nothing.

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                            Jet
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                            @Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            See also Will Jordan on this.

                            Feel like he is overrated.
                            Riding the back of the space created by better AB teams.
                            Love would be a better option at 15.
                            Jordan is a 14 or nothing.

                            While your point on his position may have merit I think you are harsh on Jordan there. He has scored tries from nothing that basically no other Allblack has been doing since “PlayStation Beaudy”.

                            Jordan’s tries against Ireland in the cake tin, the chip and chase against Wales and USA, the semi final try against Argentina display a skill nobody else in the squad has shown us. The only other time an Allblack has created a “hold my beer” moment in recent memory was Roigard against the Boks in Twickenham.

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                            • J Jet

                              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                              I agree with this.

                              5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                              Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                              Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

                              ALB has 72.

                              There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

                              The former is much worse than the latter.

                              If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder at home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

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                              African Monkey
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                              @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                              I agree with this.

                              5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                              Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                              Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

                              ALB has 72.

                              There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

                              The former is much worse than the latter.

                              If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder and home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

                              None of them hierarchy have the balls to move players on anymore.

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                              • J Jet

                                @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore.

                                Savea and Beaudy are two of our biggest onfield problems to solve and have been for years.

                                World beaters on YouTube, panel beaters in the flesh.

                                We have been building our cake around their "icing and sprinkles" instead of the other way round.

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                                kev
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                                @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore.

                                Savea and Beaudy are two of our biggest onfield problems to solve and have been for years.

                                World beaters on YouTube, panel beaters in the flesh.

                                We have been building our cake around their "icing and sprinkles" instead of the other way round.

                                100%

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @mariner4life

                                  Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                                  His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                                  They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @mariner4life

                                  Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                                  His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                                  They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

                                  If there was any selection pressure, yes.

                                  But that’s not how it seems to be at all.

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                                  • A African Monkey

                                    @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                                    I agree with this.

                                    5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                                    Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                                    Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

                                    ALB has 72.

                                    There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

                                    The former is much worse than the latter.

                                    If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder and home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

                                    None of them hierarchy have the balls to move players on anymore.

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                                    canefan
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                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                                    I agree with this.

                                    5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                                    Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                                    Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

                                    ALB has 72.

                                    There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

                                    The former is much worse than the latter.

                                    If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder and home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

                                    None of them hierarchy have the balls to move players on anymore.

                                    I'd respect the coaches more if they picked the kids

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @nta will be gutted he missed that comeback, especially when you consider he’s gone to watch a band who’s sole claim to fame is a shitty cover of ‘Black Betty’

                                      whose

                                      That’s pretty solid proofreading from someone as pissed as you.

                                      In my defence I was on the phone one handed while washing some plates

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                                      nostrildamus
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                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @nta will be gutted he missed that comeback, especially when you consider he’s gone to watch a band who’s sole claim to fame is a shitty cover of ‘Black Betty’

                                      whose

                                      That’s pretty solid proofreading from someone as pissed as you.

                                      In my defence I was on the phone one handed while washing some plates

                                      "on the phone one handed" gets on my 'new euphemisms' list.

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                                      • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                                        This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.

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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.

                                        I think our props are having trouble with fitness. Not sure about the locks, VP stayed pretty active. I think Cane is having trouble keeping up though.

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                                          First three Aussie tries came from defensive howlers by Ardie Savea and the fourth by one by DMac.

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