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    Good column.

    I know the Fern was down when Jonesy's article was published but was quite pleased to see we dismissed it as the irrelevancy that it is and that he has become by not starting a thread on it subsequently.

    Now that someone else has though...who is Bryan Gould btw?

    I did want to say that Jonesy has officially jumped the shark with this one. That would have been my thread title and I'm a little disappointed I didn't get to use it.

    Also I see Andy Robinson is digging over the ghosts of '05 also.

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    I did have to laugh when someone in the article comments pointed to Jones' Wikipedia listing

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    @booboo

    Bryan Gould was a politician back in the day, something high up in the Labour Party but I think he was originally a Labour MP in the UK. He was also the vice chancellor at Waikato after Wilf Malcolm left. Gould would be one of the most liberal people I've ever met, just to the softer and more caring left hand side of the Archbishop of Canterbury. After last year's election debacle he came to the conclusion that all would have been well if everybody had just united behind Cunliffe. Or something.

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    That's a very good rugby article for an academic.

    No wonder our rugby culture is so strong when even our nerd elite have such a thorough appreciation of the game.

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    I'm surprised to see Gould say that to say the least. Good on him though, it's a far more calm and measured response than I would come up with if anyone was foolish enough to let me write a column in a paper about those two losers,

    JC his post election conclusion was that Labour didn't shift left enough. No surprises there I guess.

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    @booboo said in Cripple fight - Bryan Gould has a go at The Walrus:

    Also I see Andy Robinson is digging over the ghosts of '05 also.

    At least he's constructive by advising Gatland what it's like to be in New Zealand.

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    I was pretty shocked seeing the Walrus in the flesh in 2005, he's quite a tall fluffybunny. He had his trademark scowl on as he walked with lots of New Zealander ( even worse, ones from Wellington ) after the Lions v Lions game. ( the game in which Riki Flutey made history )

    Did he write a column having a whinge about NZs hospitality, transport and food as well or did I imagine that in amongst all his other vitriol....

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    @MN5 Pumpkin soup.

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    I think the thing that shit's me the most about Jones is the fact he's not even clever or witty in his criticisms. Peter Fizsimons gives NZ a bit of shit but he is pretty amusing in how he does it. The Walrus was at his worst in 99 when he ( and any amount of others of his ilk ) all of a sudden become the biggest French Rugby fans in the world and went on about how Rueben Thorne didn't have the "aura" of Martin Johnson or Fabien Pelous when he walked in a room or other such bullshit.

    It's like the "hilarious" memes that go round, the old "I support the All Blacks, or anyone playing Australia" Ha ha ha chortle chortle.....oh my sides........

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    @MN5 And at least Fitzsimons has actually played international footy. I give a lot more credence to someone who actually stood toe to toe with the team he's having a dig at. Jones? meh.

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    Didn't we come to the conclusion that back in the Dark Ages when Jones was a lad, he had his heart broken by a New Zealander (I'm not going to specify gender) and that is the source of his everlasting bile?

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    @Mokey said in Cripple fight - Bryan Gould has a go at The Walrus:

    Didn't we come to the conclusion that back in the Dark Ages when Jones was a lad, he had his heart broken by a New Zealander (I'm not going to specify gender species) and that is the source of his everlasting bile?

    fixed Mokey 😉

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    @Mokey

    Sounds like a story that needs to be told Mokey. A villainous, pudgy Welshman with six fingers on one hand, spurned by a virile young Kiwi boy.

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    @JC said in Cripple fight - Bryan Gould has a go at The Walrus:

    @Mokey

    Sounds like a story that needs to be told Mokey. A villainous, pudgy Welshman with six fingers on one hand, spurned by a virile young Kiwi boy lamb.

    fixed.

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    @taniwharugby can't be sheep. He is Welsh. They look after their own.

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    @nostrildamus he was on holiday, obviously thought that he could do as he pleased in NZ as he did in the Valleys!

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    @JC said in Cripple fight - Bryan Gould has a go at The Walrus:

    @booboo

    Bryan Gould was a politician back in the day, something high up in the Labour Party but I think he was originally a Labour MP in the UK. He was also the vice chancellor at Waikato after Wilf Malcolm left. Gould would be one of the most liberal people I've ever met, just to the softer and more caring left hand side of the Archbishop of Canterbury. After last year's election debacle he came to the conclusion that all would have been well if everybody had just united behind Cunliffe. Or something.

    Not just an MP, in the Shadow Cabinet, he actually ran for leader of the Labour Party in the Uk and failed the first time and I think before he left to return(?) to the Waikato as VC he was mooted as a future leader of Labour so who knows what would have happened if he stayed. He should write well, being an ex-journalist. His brother, btw, popularised Sudoko and was a HK judge.
    Here is some insight into his views of New Labour https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/20/labour-foreign-policy

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    @Mokey said in Cripple fight - Bryan Gould has a go at The Walrus:

    Didn't we come to the conclusion that back in the Dark Ages when Jones was a lad, he had his heart broken by a New Zealander (I'm not going to specify gender) and that is the source of his everlasting bile?

    Gender?

    I'd be querying species ...

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