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All Blacks vs Wallabies 2

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    brodean
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    I thought Jacobson was a lot better than Cane yesterday.

    Cane's defense wasn't even Super Rugby standard yesterday.

    Not sure why people are calling for Cane to start again.

    I don't recall a NZ 7 making so little tackles and missing so many in Super Rugby game this year.

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      I thought Jacobson was a lot better than Cane yesterday.

      Cane's defense wasn't even Super Rugby standard yesterday.

      Not sure why people are calling for Cane to start again.

      I don't recall a NZ 7 making so little tackles and missing so many in Super Rugby game this year.

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      @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      I thought Jacobson was a lot better than Cane yesterday.

      Cane's defense wasn't even Super Rugby standard yesterday.

      7 tackles, no misses in 17 mins plus the ruck turnover. Cane only made 5 tackles with three misses before being replaced.

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        @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

        I thought Jacobson was a lot better than Cane yesterday.

        Cane's defense wasn't even Super Rugby standard yesterday.

        7 tackles, no misses in 17 mins plus the ruck turnover. Cane only made 5 tackles with three misses before being replaced.

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        @Bovidae

        Cane missed 3 according to RugbyPass stats.

        One of those of course resulted in a try.

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          @Bovidae

          Cane missed 3 according to RugbyPass stats.

          One of those of course resulted in a try.

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          Bovidae
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          @brodean Yes, a typo and have corrected.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            @Machpants And what did South Africa do against Australia in the second game? They're World Number 1 because they take risks. That side is capable of beating the Number 9 side in the world handsomely.

            And some guys have played a lot of minutes already this year. We need to manage their remaining minutes ahead of huge challenges to come at Twickenham, in Dublin and at the Stade de France.

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            @sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

            @Machpants And what did South Africa do against Australia in the second game? They're World Number 1 because they take risks. That side is capable of beating the Number 9 side in the world handsomely.

            And some guys have played a lot of minutes already this year. We need to manage their remaining minutes ahead of huge challenges to come at Twickenham, in Dublin and at the Stade de France.

            That world beating SA side just lost to Argentina, a team Australia managed to beat just a fortnight ago.

            It's difficult to gauge where the other TRC teams are right now (apart from SA) as they're all transitioning with new coaching teams.

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              I thought Jacobson was a lot better than Cane yesterday.

              Cane's defense wasn't even Super Rugby standard yesterday.

              Not sure why people are calling for Cane to start again.

              I don't recall a NZ 7 making so little tackles and missing so many in Super Rugby game this year.

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              @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

              Not sure why people are calling for Cane to start again.

              Emotions. 100th Test etc

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                @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                Not sure why people are calling for Cane to start again.

                Emotions. 100th Test etc

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                @Duluth

                I remember a time when players were ruthlessly dropped from the AB's when they weren't performing.

                Buck Shelford never played that bad.

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                  With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

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                    The games I've seen Proctor play at 12 have been good but it will be ALB at 12.

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

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                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                      With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

                      Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                        With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

                        Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

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                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                        With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

                        Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

                        After all the criticism of Ardie at 8 I wouldn’t mind him getting a run there either. We’ll be fine

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                          With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

                          Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

                          After all the criticism of Ardie at 8 I wouldn’t mind him getting a run there either. We’ll be fine

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                          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                          With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

                          Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

                          After all the criticism of Ardie at 8 I wouldn’t mind him getting a run there either. We’ll be fine

                          Was it BGS who said years ago Ardie doesn't play a traditional position, he plays his own position called the Savea ( or something like that)? Yes,we could put the number 12 on his back and let him do his own thing. What could possibly go wrong?

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                            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                            With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

                            Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

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                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                            With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

                            Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

                            It's possible considering JB is probably injured and ALB didn't play well. Or a surprise selection of Plummer at 12, him and RI have played together a lot

                            I'd like to see ALB/RI play after having a full week training together though

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                              With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

                              Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

                              It's possible considering JB is probably injured and ALB didn't play well. Or a surprise selection of Plummer at 12, him and RI have played together a lot

                              I'd like to see ALB/RI play after having a full week training together though

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                              @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                              With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

                              Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

                              It's possible considering JB is probably injured and ALB didn't play well. Or a surprise selection of Plummer at 12, him and RI have played together a lot

                              I'd like to see ALB/RI play after having a full week training together though

                              I agree it's possible. While he didn't do anything flashy, DH showed a physicality to his game for Ta$man that would have pleased the selectors. Not saying I would pick him though.

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                DMac was more Helter skelter yesterday than ever, certainly more than he showed for the Chiefs. There are others, such as Aumua who are shadows of their SR selves. Is the coaching team responsible for this?

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                                @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                DMac was more Helter skelter yesterday than ever, certainly more than he showed for the Chiefs. There are others, such as Aumua who are shadows of their SR selves. Is the coaching team responsible for this?

                                Just shows how tough the step up to international rugby is. Plenty of players have failed to make the leap.

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                                  @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                  DMac was more Helter skelter yesterday than ever, certainly more than he showed for the Chiefs. There are others, such as Aumua who are shadows of their SR selves. Is the coaching team responsible for this?

                                  Just shows how tough the step up to international rugby is. Plenty of players have failed to make the leap.

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                                  @frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                  DMac was more Helter skelter yesterday than ever, certainly more than he showed for the Chiefs. There are others, such as Aumua who are shadows of their SR selves. Is the coaching team responsible for this?

                                  Just shows how tough the step up to international rugby is. Plenty of players have failed to make the leap.

                                  I'm not sure the team pattern is contributing to it too. Razor seems obsessed with getting the ball out wide, which leads to errors from over eager players. But we lack plan B

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                                    Plummer was picked as backup 10 AND 12 wasn't he?

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                                    • F Frank

                                      @BerniesCorner Great team except Sititi to 8 and Blackadder to 6 if fit.

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                                      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @BerniesCorner Great team except Sititi to 8 and Blackadder to 6 if fit.

                                      Yep I would be happy, and Ardie to bench, almost needs a refresh!

                                      Though Sititi has been bloody good at 6, so can see why they would keep him there too!

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        Players that should be rested:

                                        Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane

                                        So the team I'd pick is:

                                        De Groot, Bell, Tosi, S.Barrett, Vaii, Finau, Blackadder, Sititi, Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB, Proctor, Jordan, Love

                                        Aumua, Williams, Ofa T, Darry, Cane, Hotham, B. Barrett, Telea,

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                                        @sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                        Players that should be rested:

                                        Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane

                                        So the team I'd pick is:

                                        De Groot, Bell, Tosi, S.Barrett, Vaii, Finau, Blackadder, Sititi, Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB, Proctor, Jordan, Love

                                        Aumua, Williams, Ofa T, Darry, Cane, Hotham, B. Barrett, Telea,

                                        I don't mind that but Love is out. Bring Reiko to the bench for whoever covers fullback (BB, or Telea to wing, WJ to 15).

                                        Start Cane.

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                                        • S SBW1

                                          Will Sevu get dropped for Telea? Surely Sotutu gets the nod.

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                                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                          Will Sevu get dropped for Telea? Surely Sotutu gets the nod.

                                          How? He's not in the squad.

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