All Blacks vs Wallabies 2

[antipodean]

@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Players that should be rested:

Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane

Why?

Because we should be more worried about England, Ireland and France away than 10th in world Australia who we should beat by 30+ points at home even with the changes.

So your idea is to rest some of the players we're relying on in the vain hope another loss at home will somehow transform new guys into world beaters?

[DaGrubster]

@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@booboo Sevu was like a headless chook, too small at the cleanouts and not as accurate as Telea. Sotutu will probably force his way in through injuries.

Only if there is an injury to Jason Ryan

[sparky]

@antipodean Australia are ranked 10th in the world. Below Fiji. We can rest 6 or 7 guys and still beat them by 30+ points.

[antipodean]

@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean Australia are ranked 10th in the world. Below Fiji. We can rest 6 or 7 guys and still beat them by 30+ points.

Guessing you didn't watch our last game.

[Bones]

@brodean noone sees him as any kind of saviour, this is getting ridiculous but fuck, chance would be a fine thing.

[sparky]

@antipodean I did.

Let's stop pretending that beating Australia is a big achievement.

The away games against England, Ireland and France are all going to be much more challenging.

[antipodean]

@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean I did.

Let's stop pretending that beating Australia is a big achievement.

The away games against England, Ireland and France are all going to be much more challenging.

No shit Sherlock. So the win against a donkey opposition by only three points should have you concerned about replacing most of the good players for the next fixture.

[nostrildamus]

I think Sparky is saying the Bled is won, and a loss at home for Test 2 against Australia is not as important or as valuable as winning on the northern tour.
Not sure that is my preference but I see the reasoning.

[BerniesCorner]

Winning Wallabies 2 is very important. Small steps.

[sparky]

@nostrildamus Sort of.

Australia were lucky to keep it close yesterday. I can't see them doing that two weeks in a row. Australia at home is the most straight-forward fixture of the AB's season.

[cgrant]

Will they call someone as injury cover for Jordie ? If we have a look at the NPC, then Higgins is the form 2nd Five. But he has barely played in SR so I think they won't call him. So who ? AJ Lam, McLeod (he's a Cantab), Tanielu Telea, TUJ ?

[family man]

Higgins for me! The guy oozes class

[canefan]

Lam was standout in SR

[Mr Fish]

Don't imagine they'll call up a player for one Test in NZ but they might bring in a local Wellington body or two to help with training - but then that doesn't necessarily have to be a midfielder.

Otherwise, probably Quinn Tupaea.

[KiwiMurph]

I think Razor did hint that they might bring cover in.

Lam looked a million bucks at 12 for Blues in the playoffs and had a standout game for Auckland at 12 yesterday.

[Machpants]

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean I did.

Let's stop pretending that beating Australia is a big achievement.

The away games against England, Ireland and France are all going to be much more challenging.

No shit Sherlock. So the win against a donkey opposition by only three points should have you concerned about replacing most of the good players for the next fixture.

The so called 'good' ie experienced players are the ones stinking up the joint. ALB, DMac, Cane, Ardie, etc. It's some of the noobs who are playing well

[Machpants]

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

I think Razor did hint that they might bring cover in.

Lam looked a million bucks at 12 for Blues in the playoffs and had a standout game for Auckland at 12 yesterday.

Yeah he said they would look at bringing someone in to be a training body

[Bovidae]

Finally a journo is questioning the captaincy of Barrett.

[nzzp]

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

I think Razor did hint that they might bring cover in.

Lam looked a million bucks at 12 for Blues in the playoffs and had a standout game for Auckland at 12 yesterday.

Love it, but he's played a handful of games there. It's a massive risk - he looks good, but inexpereince is real. A season at 12 in Super however, and if he handles what gets thrown at him will show he's at least a level below Tests and may step. up.

[KiwiMurph]

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

I think Razor did hint that they might bring cover in.

Lam looked a million bucks at 12 for Blues in the playoffs and had a standout game for Auckland at 12 yesterday.

Love it, but he's played a handful of games there. It's a massive risk - he looks good, but inexpereince is real. A season at 12 in Super however, and if he handles what gets thrown at him will show he's at least a level below Tests and may step. up.

I would say coming through the business end of Super Rugby at the position has shown he is up to 12 at the level below.

I think you are over egging the massive risk part. Jordie plays a fairly simple game at 12 currently where he essentially trucks the ball up and realistically - whoever they bring in isn't going to be starting anyway.

He's an experienced player who had played a lot of rugby and anyone can see he looks super comfortable at 12. With his utility value he could be an intriguing bench option (God knows we need help there).