All Blacks vs Wallabies 2
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
You can't build a team around players who are constantly injured. It's detrimental to have players working their way back into form in test rugby.
Injuries are a fact of life in today's rugby. Off the top of my head, this year.
Blackadder ditto and currently injured.I think the post was particularly about Blackadder.
I'll just repeat this:
Blackadder debuted in 2018 and has played 7 seasons of Super. He's played 42 Super games. There are two seasons where he has played more than 5 matches.On the other hand - Will Jordan made his debut for Super Rugby team the Crusaders in 2019 after missing the 2018 season with injury. He's played 50 Super games in the same period as Ethan, so he's testing you guys' limits as well.
But, he's also scoring test tries at a rate unprecedented in All Black history and we're going to be a bit thin in the back three without him. In the sights
Player Tries Tests
Rieko 37 - 76
Jonah 37 - 63
Tana 36 - 74
JK 35 - 63
Mils 34 - 100
Will 34 - 36
Ma'a 31 - 103he's slipping...
@nostrildamus He'll be back!
His only rugby this year prior to the tests was 60 minutes of NPC warm-up vs Manawatu!
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
it probably says more about my knowledge about different positions than anything i find is so strange that we often talk about locks playing 6 or visa versa, or 10-15's....but there are very few that we're happy to play both 12 and 13.....in my obviously uneducated mind they seem much similar than tight and loose forward or 10 and 15
we also seem very stuck in the type of midfielders we want...i struggle to see Reiko and conrad smith as the same type of player....or nonu and JB....are we not versatile enough or has the game change so much that those legends wouldn't work as well
Maybe it's the roles within the duos. Little and Bunce also quite different compared to their current counterparts. Ideally you need one distributor and one hard runner, whether they play in 12 or 13
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Ideally you need one distributor and one hard runner, whether they play in 12 or 13
Shame then that the first choice combo don't really have either of those strengths on a consistent basis.
ALB is getting piled on his card which is ridiculous considering it was a team yellow. He didn't do much before then but he'd been on 20 minutes as part of a shambolic performance by the whole team.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
"hey, we're scoring lots of points early but none late. We need to fix that. By jove I've got it! we'll take the guys who score all the points early, and get them off the field until the end, and get the guys who don't score any points late, and put them on the field early. Genius"
This isn't trying new things, this is retreading old mistakes.
It's been pretty obvious that, whatever the punters might think, the coaches see Beaudy as their number 2 first five. He's pretty much been the injury cover throughout - so they're using this game to give him a run. Cheer up - I have a hunch Richie the Mo will be back ahead of schedule and then we'll have two good test first fives.
TJP's getting a farewell on his home ground - I don't really like this sort of sentimentality, but it's a thing - personnel management, I guess.
They're planning to replace ALB rather than Rieko, so Havili rather than Proctor.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
"hey, we're scoring lots of points early but none late. We need to fix that. By jove I've got it! we'll take the guys who score all the points early, and get them off the field until the end, and get the guys who don't score any points late, and put them on the field early. Genius"
This isn't trying new things, this is retreading old mistakes.
It's been pretty obvious that, whatever the punters might think, the coaches see Beaudy as their number 2 first five. He's pretty much been the injury cover throughout - so they're using this game to give him a run. Cheer up - I have a hunch Richie the Mo will be back ahead of schedule and then we'll have two good test first fives.
TJP's getting a farewell on his home ground - I don't really like this sort of sentimentality, but it's a thing - personnel management, I guess.
They're planning to replace ALB rather than Rieko, so Havili rather than Proctor.
We might, but I'll bet they aren't Mo'unga and Dmac. If Richie is re-signed, the writing will be on the wall and I'll bet that Dmac signs for huge money overseas.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Ideally you need one distributor and one hard runner, whether they play in 12 or 13
Shame then that the first choice combo don't really have either of those strengths on a consistent basis.
ALB is getting piled on his card which is ridiculous considering it was a team yellow. He didn't do much before then but he'd been on 20 minutes as part of a shambolic performance by the whole team.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
"hey, we're scoring lots of points early but none late. We need to fix that. By jove I've got it! we'll take the guys who score all the points early, and get them off the field until the end, and get the guys who don't score any points late, and put them on the field early. Genius"
This isn't trying new things, this is retreading old mistakes.
It's been pretty obvious that, whatever the punters might think, the coaches see Beaudy as their number 2 first five. He's pretty much been the injury cover throughout - so they're using this game to give him a run. Cheer up - I have a hunch Richie the Mo will be back ahead of schedule and then we'll have two good test first fives.
TJP's getting a farewell on his home ground - I don't really like this sort of sentimentality, but it's a thing - personnel management, I guess.
They're planning to replace ALB rather than Rieko, so Havili rather than Proctor.
We might, but I'll bet they aren't Mo'unga and Dmac. If Richie is re-signed, the writing will be on the wall and I'll bet that Dmac signs for huge money overseas.
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
"hey, we're scoring lots of points early but none late. We need to fix that. By jove I've got it! we'll take the guys who score all the points early, and get them off the field until the end, and get the guys who don't score any points late, and put them on the field early. Genius"
This isn't trying new things, this is retreading old mistakes.
It's been pretty obvious that, whatever the punters might think, the coaches see Beaudy as their number 2 first five. He's pretty much been the injury cover throughout - so they're using this game to give him a run. Cheer up - I have a hunch Richie the Mo will be back ahead of schedule and then we'll have two good test first fives.
TJP's getting a farewell on his home ground - I don't really like this sort of sentimentality, but it's a thing - personnel management, I guess.
They're planning to replace ALB rather than Rieko, so Havili rather than Proctor.
We might, but I'll bet they aren't Mo'unga and Dmac. If Richie is re-signed, the writing will be on the wall and I'll bet that Dmac signs for huge money overseas.
Maybe - it's hard to hold onto second-string players when there's millions on offer.
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
"hey, we're scoring lots of points early but none late. We need to fix that. By jove I've got it! we'll take the guys who score all the points early, and get them off the field until the end, and get the guys who don't score any points late, and put them on the field early. Genius"
This isn't trying new things, this is retreading old mistakes.
It's been pretty obvious that, whatever the punters might think, the coaches see Beaudy as their number 2 first five. He's pretty much been the injury cover throughout - so they're using this game to give him a run. Cheer up - I have a hunch Richie the Mo will be back ahead of schedule and then we'll have two good test first fives.
TJP's getting a farewell on his home ground - I don't really like this sort of sentimentality, but it's a thing - personnel management, I guess.
They're planning to replace ALB rather than Rieko, so Havili rather than Proctor.
We might, but I'll bet they aren't Mo'unga and Dmac. If Richie is re-signed, the writing will be on the wall and I'll bet that Dmac signs for huge money overseas.
Maybe - it's hard to hold onto second-string players when there's millions on offer.
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
Maybe this time Richie wants to?
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Ideally you need one distributor and one hard runner, whether they play in 12 or 13
Shame then that the first choice combo don't really have either of those strengths on a consistent basis.
ALB is getting piled on his card which is ridiculous considering it was a team yellow. He didn't do much before then but he'd been on 20 minutes as part of a shambolic performance by the whole team.
@dogmeat said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
ALB is getting piled on his card which is ridiculous considering it was a team yellow. He didn't do much before then but he'd been on 20 minutes as part of a shambolic performance by the whole team
ALB didn't do much in the prior 3 tests either (all from the bench).......
One of the reasons why I'm looking forward to this weekend
ALB's best test performance this year came at 12.
Havili at least offers someone new in the bench utility back role.
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ALB and Proctor looked great on attack - I know it is Fiji but it is all about the combos and I'd like to see them there again.
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ALB and Proctor looked great on attack - I know it is Fiji but it is all about the combos and I'd like to see them there again.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
ALB and Proctor looked great on attack - I know it is Fiji but it is all about the combos and I'd like to see them there again.
Fiji made ALB look like Cullen. I really rate him - but that's not the test to draw conclusions from.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
ALB and Proctor looked great on attack - I know it is Fiji but it is all about the combos and I'd like to see them there again.
Fiji made ALB look like Cullen. I really rate him - but that's not the test to draw conclusions from.
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
ALB and Proctor looked great on attack - I know it is Fiji but it is all about the combos and I'd like to see them there again.
Fiji made ALB look like Cullen. I really rate him - but that's not the test to draw conclusions from.
I'd have said Ben Smith or Cruden or Larkham-slippery.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
Maybe this time Richie wants to?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
Maybe this time Richie wants to?
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ALB and Proctor looked great on attack - I know it is Fiji but it is all about the combos and I'd like to see them there again.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
ALB and Proctor looked great on attack - I know it is Fiji but it is all about the combos and I'd like to see them there again.
I can't give much weight to a sparkling performance against Fiji sorry
EDIT: It would justify another look against better opposition. ALB has been given a crack, Proctor still waits
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Most of the yellows in the last string of tests have been team yellows.
Our team is ill disciplined and can't seem to read the room at the appropriate time.
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Most of the yellows in the last string of tests have been team yellows.
Our team is ill disciplined and can't seem to read the room at the appropriate time.
Can’t understand why Razor left the invisibility cloak in Sith HQ?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
Maybe this time Richie wants to?
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
"hey, we're scoring lots of points early but none late. We need to fix that. By jove I've got it! we'll take the guys who score all the points early, and get them off the field until the end, and get the guys who don't score any points late, and put them on the field early. Genius"
This isn't trying new things, this is retreading old mistakes.
It's been pretty obvious that, whatever the punters might think, the coaches see Beaudy as their number 2 first five. He's pretty much been the injury cover throughout - so they're using this game to give him a run. Cheer up - I have a hunch Richie the Mo will be back ahead of schedule and then we'll have two good test first fives.
TJP's getting a farewell on his home ground - I don't really like this sort of sentimentality, but it's a thing - personnel management, I guess.
They're planning to replace ALB rather than Rieko, so Havili rather than Proctor.
We might, but I'll bet they aren't Mo'unga and Dmac. If Richie is re-signed, the writing will be on the wall and I'll bet that Dmac signs for huge money overseas.
Maybe - it's hard to hold onto second-string players when there's millions on offer.
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
"hey, we're scoring lots of points early but none late. We need to fix that. By jove I've got it! we'll take the guys who score all the points early, and get them off the field until the end, and get the guys who don't score any points late, and put them on the field early. Genius"
This isn't trying new things, this is retreading old mistakes.
It's been pretty obvious that, whatever the punters might think, the coaches see Beaudy as their number 2 first five. He's pretty much been the injury cover throughout - so they're using this game to give him a run. Cheer up - I have a hunch Richie the Mo will be back ahead of schedule and then we'll have two good test first fives.
TJP's getting a farewell on his home ground - I don't really like this sort of sentimentality, but it's a thing - personnel management, I guess.
They're planning to replace ALB rather than Rieko, so Havili rather than Proctor.
We might, but I'll bet they aren't Mo'unga and Dmac. If Richie is re-signed, the writing will be on the wall and I'll bet that Dmac signs for huge money overseas.
Maybe - it's hard to hold onto quality players when there's millions on offer and they aren't from the Crusaders.
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
FIFY.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
Maybe this time Richie wants to?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
But, firstly, Richie's got to take the jersey back and even assuming he does, maybe DMac really wants to win a RWC.
Maybe this time Richie wants to?
3rd times a charm…!?
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@canefan well someone had to say it...
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@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Most of the yellows in the last string of tests have been team yellows.
Our team is ill disciplined and can't seem to read the room at the appropriate time.
Can’t understand why Razor left the invisibility cloak in Sith HQ?
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Most of the yellows in the last string of tests have been team yellows.
Our team is ill disciplined and can't seem to read the room at the appropriate time.
Can’t understand why Razor left the invisibility cloak in Sith HQ?
He mixed it up with the failure cloak
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Like the idea of giving proctor a run but only with JB at 12 as combinations will help him show his best.
Still worried about on field leadership. Its like all the experience guys who have left were the ones who naturally lead when it was tight and we been left with the followers who have a lot of games to them.
Plummer, dont see the point of a player who is described as a 'made for test' style (% plays, kick for territory etc) is player you want off the bench. Surely he should start.
But if we have learnt anything this AB season super form doesnt count. Its now such a step down it is not a good measure.
Trial one or two at most each game at most to see if they are up to test capability.
