All Blacks vs Wallabies 2

[nzzp]

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Having minimal backup Ist five cover after DMac for the rest of the year is a risk.

I'd have kept DMac on. He's your future 10, he's playing bloody well (mostly) - and BB is a dead end.

What the hell kind of message are you sending to him by dropping him? Do you think he'll suddenly play better? You want him creating chaos and throwing those passes, not going to ground with the ball.

[BerniesCorner]

Yep this match is kinda a send off. Not the ruthless selectorial process we have seen historically.
They should've trusted the young fullas more this year and given game time.

[antipodean]

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Yep this match is kinda a send off. Not the ruthless selectorial process we have seen historically.
They should've trusted the young fullas more this year and given game time.

I can't imagine Fred Allen giving players a send off other than "you're bloody useless" if they asked why they weren't selected.

[Nepia]

@dogmeat said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Kiwiwomble

No time for sentimentality when our form is bad, so;

Cane
Perenara
Reece
Aumua
Jacobsen
Havili
Barrett B

Now saying I'd be happy not seeing them in Black again isn't quite the same as advocating none of them should play this weekend. That would be too disruptive, but I wouldn't be taking any of them to the NH. They're either past it or haven't got it. Patrick T fits those criteria too in an ideal world.

You must have some time for sentimentality - otherwise how is Ardie not on your list?

[dogmeat]

@Nepia He's the one I said I would drop. If his form comes back then he's a contender, but those seven. Thanks for the memories etc

[dogmeat]

@BerniesCorner Like 1974 Dropped at least half the experienced back seat of the bus players and took the captaincy off Kirky (arguably the best player in the team) who learned about it on the bus on the way back from Poverty Bay game and simply said 'at least I'm still in the team".

Ruthless yes but a reaction to the dross the team had delivered the year before and it worked. Not every debutant worked out - but most did and a handful went on to have very successful AB careers.

[Nepia]

@dogmeat said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Nepia He's the one I said I would drop. If his form comes back then he's a contender, but those seven. Thanks for the memories etc

Oh right, I think I entirely misread your post. My bad.

[NTA]

@Nevorian said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

I don't mind that team but have to question the continued selection of Lolesio. Best of a bad bunch I guess, but I'm not convinced even that is true

Lolesio > BBarrett

Uh... Sure...

[pakman]

@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

All I will say is, thanks to terrible squad selections and Crusader bias, the 23 we are putting out this year is nowhere near as strong as it could be.

Ronan O’Gara used to criticise AB selectors for not starting more of the champion Super team, but this year’s champion, built on best pack in comp, can only manage two, both backs.

[LatsToTheMax]

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Yep this match is kinda a send off. Not the ruthless selectorial process we have seen historically.
They should've trusted the young fullas more this year and given game time.

I can't imagine Fred Allen giving players a send off other than "you're bloody useless" if they asked why they weren't selected.

The parameters are a bit different though eh. Needles coached the ABs for 14 tests over 3 years and wasn't handed a pile of shite.

[Nepia]

@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Yep this match is kinda a send off. Not the ruthless selectorial process we have seen historically.
They should've trusted the young fullas more this year and given game time.

I can't imagine Fred Allen giving players a send off other than "you're bloody useless" if they asked why they weren't selected.

The parameters are a bit different though eh. Needles coached the ABs for 14 tests over 3 years and wasn't handed a pile of shite.

Razor wasn't handed anything, he picked his team.

[LatsToTheMax]

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Yep this match is kinda a send off. Not the ruthless selectorial process we have seen historically.
They should've trusted the young fullas more this year and given game time.

I can't imagine Fred Allen giving players a send off other than "you're bloody useless" if they asked why they weren't selected.

The parameters are a bit different though eh. Needles coached the ABs for 14 tests over 3 years and wasn't handed a pile of shite.

Razor wasn't handed anything, he picked his team.

He had superstars available to him...

[canefan]

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Yep this match is kinda a send off. Not the ruthless selectorial process we have seen historically.
They should've trusted the young fullas more this year and given game time.

I can't imagine Fred Allen giving players a send off other than "you're bloody useless" if they asked why they weren't selected.

You never even used to get a phone call

[LatsToTheMax]

@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Yep this match is kinda a send off. Not the ruthless selectorial process we have seen historically.
They should've trusted the young fullas more this year and given game time.

I can't imagine Fred Allen giving players a send off other than "you're bloody useless" if they asked why they weren't selected.

You never even used to get a phone call

Didn't even have b/w tele back then.

[canefan]

@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Yep this match is kinda a send off. Not the ruthless selectorial process we have seen historically.
They should've trusted the young fullas more this year and given game time.

I can't imagine Fred Allen giving players a send off other than "you're bloody useless" if they asked why they weren't selected.

You never even used to get a phone call

Didn't even have b/w tele back then.

I remember they'd read the team out and you had to wait like everyone else

[Kiwiwomble]

i cant help but wonder whats going on in the background, is he being told that because people like savea and BB have resigned they have to be at least int he quad, we did spend all the money for nothing kind of shit

[antipodean]

@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Yep this match is kinda a send off. Not the ruthless selectorial process we have seen historically.
They should've trusted the young fullas more this year and given game time.

I can't imagine Fred Allen giving players a send off other than "you're bloody useless" if they asked why they weren't selected.

The parameters are a bit different though eh. Needles coached the ABs for 14 tests over 3 years and wasn't handed a pile of shite.

Things I learned today: A RWC finalist = a pile of shite.

We're looking like replicating the 1963–64 Tour...

[Nevorian]

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

i cant help but wonder whats going on in the background, is he being told that because people like savea and BB have resigned they have to be at least int he quad, we did spend all the money for nothing kind of shit

Maybe sponsors want them in the team

[sparky]

@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Not too many changes. Backline as posted.

That a Dad's Army XV.

[Billy Tell]

This thread is just a hive of negativity and frankly quite boring to read. I’ll limit my comments to congratulating cane on reaching 100 tests. Thought it was all over after the RWC but it’s been a decent enough return. Certainly not the reason we keep fading with 20 to go.