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Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series

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  • canefanC canefan

    We are missing a seamer like Wags, who could make the most out of unfavorable wickets, making the batsmen constantly uncomfortable. Loves Wags

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    @canefan said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

    We are missing a seamer like Wags, who could make the most out of unfavorable wickets, making the batsmen constantly uncomfortable. Loves Wags

    I love Wags too, it’s unfern like not to…..but I think he bowed out at the right time

    As for today it would sure be nice for O’Rourke to get a couple of quick ones.

    Always a bit shit when a part time spinner gets a wicket when the front liners couldn’t….Patel and Santner need a rocket.

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      @canefan said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

      We are missing a seamer like Wags, who could make the most out of unfavorable wickets, making the batsmen constantly uncomfortable. Loves Wags

      I love Wags too, it’s unfern like not to…..but I think he bowed out at the right time

      As for today it would sure be nice for O’Rourke to get a couple of quick ones.

      Always a bit shit when a part time spinner gets a wicket when the front liners couldn’t….Patel and Santner need a rocket.

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      @MN5 said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

      Patel and Santner need a rocket.

      Unless Patel was horrid, that is tough on him. He has a 10fer, and picked up 8 or 9 wickets in the last test. He's doing his bit!

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      • MN5M MN5

        @canefan said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

        We are missing a seamer like Wags, who could make the most out of unfavorable wickets, making the batsmen constantly uncomfortable. Loves Wags

        I love Wags too, it’s unfern like not to…..but I think he bowed out at the right time

        As for today it would sure be nice for O’Rourke to get a couple of quick ones.

        Always a bit shit when a part time spinner gets a wicket when the front liners couldn’t….Patel and Santner need a rocket.

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        @MN5 OK I went and counted.

        4/20 and 8/30
        12/50 in teh match.

        He ain't the problem.

        https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/sri-lanka-vs-new-zealand-2024-1447091/sri-lanka-vs-new-zealand-1st-test-1447096/full-scorecard

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          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

          Patel and Santner need a rocket.

          Unless Patel was horrid, that is tough on him. He has a 10fer, and picked up 8 or 9 wickets in the last test. He's doing his bit!

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          @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

          Patel and Santner need a rocket.

          Unless Patel was horrid, that is tough on him. He has a 10fer, and picked up 8 or 9 wickets in the last test. He's doing his bit!

          Yeah fair call, I just gave myself an uppercut, ridiculous of me to expect sustained amazingness in every test !

          Santner though…..

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @MN5 OK I went and counted.

            4/20 and 8/30
            12/50 in teh match.

            He ain't the problem.

            https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/sri-lanka-vs-new-zealand-2024-1447091/sri-lanka-vs-new-zealand-1st-test-1447096/full-scorecard

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            @nzzp I think you've looked at the wrong columns in the card! 🙂

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              Santner realistically doesn't put enough spin on the ball for either his stock ball or variations to be a genuine wicket taking threat in Tests. But can restrict scoring rates. Sodhi arguably an opposite...

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @nzzp I think you've looked at the wrong columns in the card! 🙂

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                @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                @nzzp I think you've looked at the wrong columns in the card! 🙂

                spot on, thanks. I counted maidens.

                So 2/60 and 6/90. Still good, but not what it was.

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                  @nzzp I think you've looked at the wrong columns in the card! 🙂

                  spot on, thanks. I counted maidens.

                  So 2/60 and 6/90. Still good, but not what it was.

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                  @nzzp I'm sticking with my prescription that Henry and Sears should have come in and Southee and Santner should have gone out.

                  Devon is on thin ice.

                  We've got to play spin options and Ajaz is probably the best we have. It's a pity he's not six inches taller.

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                    Just a really disappointing but somewhat predictable performance after the disappointing selections. The Black Caps really need a shake up, we still have the talent but we're under performing.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @nzzp I'm sticking with my prescription that Henry and Sears should have come in and Southee and Santner should have gone out.

                      Devon is on thin ice.

                      We've got to play spin options and Ajaz is probably the best we have. It's a pity he's not six inches taller.

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                      @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                      @nzzp I'm sticking with my prescription that Henry and Sears should have come in and Southee and Santner should have gone out.

                      I think yuo're half right. Yest to exitting both of Southee and Santner, but I'd pick Henry and Sodhi (or AN Other spinner). Pace won't get us wickets on these pitches.

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                        I think fans would be understanding of losses if we were developing a young team

                        We have an old team that loses

                        It makes no sense

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                          @nzzp I'm sticking with my prescription that Henry and Sears should have come in and Southee and Santner should have gone out.

                          I think yuo're half right. Yest to exitting both of Southee and Santner, but I'd pick Henry and Sodhi (or AN Other spinner). Pace won't get us wickets on these pitches.

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                          @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                          @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                          @nzzp I'm sticking with my prescription that Henry and Sears should have come in and Southee and Santner should have gone out.

                          I think yuo're half right. Yest to exitting both of Southee and Santner, but I'd pick Henry and Sodhi (or AN Other spinner). Pace won't get us wickets on these pitches.

                          Does O’Rourke mean nothing to you ?

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                            @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                            @nzzp I'm sticking with my prescription that Henry and Sears should have come in and Southee and Santner should have gone out.

                            I think yuo're half right. Yest to exitting both of Southee and Santner, but I'd pick Henry and Sodhi (or AN Other spinner). Pace won't get us wickets on these pitches.

                            Does O’Rourke mean nothing to you ?

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                            @MN5 said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                            @nzzp said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                            @Chris-B said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                            @nzzp I'm sticking with my prescription that Henry and Sears should have come in and Southee and Santner should have gone out.

                            I think yuo're half right. Yest to exitting both of Southee and Santner, but I'd pick Henry and Sodhi (or AN Other spinner). Pace won't get us wickets on these pitches.

                            Does O’Rourke mean nothing to you ?

                            yes, arguably more bounce.

                            But Southee and Henry aren't WOR. And the effectiveness drops as the test goes on. So yeah, love WOR (hunh, what is it good for) ... but would still go spin heavy.

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                              There is no point playing spinners that are not good enough. Yes the conditions suit spin, but on the flipside the Sri Lankans are used to playing in these conditions against spin, so the spinner actually has to be good to have success.

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                                There is no point playing spinners that are not good enough. Yes the conditions suit spin, but on the flipside the Sri Lankans are used to playing in these conditions against spin, so the spinner actually has to be good to have success.

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                                @No-Quarter That's what I think too.

                                WOR's success encourages me to play more pace - especially vs SL (or Bangladesh).

                                We would still be playing with Ajaz, Phillips and Ravindra.

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                                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                  There is no point playing spinners that are not good enough. Yes the conditions suit spin, but on the flipside the Sri Lankans are used to playing in these conditions against spin, so the spinner actually has to be good to have success.

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                                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                  There is no point playing spinners that are not good enough. Yes the conditions suit spin, but on the flipside the Sri Lankans are used to playing in these conditions against spin, so the spinner actually has to be good to have success.

                                  Can someone email this to Gary Stead ?

                                  Coulda done with being sent to numerous past coaches too.

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                                    Phillips !!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                    2 fer 33 don’t look half bad son !

                                    A beautifully flighted ball according to cricinfo

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                      It's a while since I've thought about the next Test keeper in line. But Blundell's batting and keeping aren't brilliant these days...

                                      After a promising start he hasn't kicked on to become BJW 2.0 as we'd hoped

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                                      @canefan said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Sri Lanka Test Series:

                                      It's a while since I've thought about the next Test keeper in line. But Blundell's batting and keeping aren't brilliant these days...

                                      After a promising start he hasn't kicked on to become BJW 2.0 as we'd hoped

                                      I reckon that is a bit harsh. An average of 36 (with no particular preference to easy opposition) is pretty close to Watling offered. Watling favoured by his longevity, but I think there was probably a considerable crossover after Blundell debuted when he could have capably played test cricket, we just didn't need him.

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                                        Shit this Mendis kid goes ok, closing in on 1000 runs at an average over 80

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                                          Sri Lanka batting us out of the game. Massive effort needed from our batsmen just to compete.

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