All Blacks vs Wallabies 2
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@hydro11 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
ALB is a better 12 than Jordie and it's not close
I dunno. We missed the boot at many times today. Not ALB's fault Dmac and BB are below standard in that department, but still.
Lol what boot?
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
ALB is a better 12 than Jordie and it's not close
I dunno. We missed the boot at many times today. Not ALB's fault Dmac and BB are below standard in that department, but still.
Lol what boot?
Jordie's? But he doesn't use it that much at 12...
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.
They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.
My thoughts exactly, it’s gotta be one or the other, not both
I was thinking LJ is a lot like Cane, just quicker. Hope he has better hands.
A bit of ball carrying oomph wouldn’t go amiss either.
It irks me when guys 1.88-1.9m and about 110kg have as much impact as a fly on a windscreen.
We need a loosie version of Tosi from the bench. Comfortable with ball running and a presence at the breakdown
I’m amazed the Blues fans haven’t mentioned Akira Ioane this year
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.
They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.
My thoughts exactly, it’s gotta be one or the other, not both
I was thinking LJ is a lot like Cane, just quicker. Hope he has better hands.
A bit of ball carrying oomph wouldn’t go amiss either.
It irks me when guys 1.88-1.9m and about 110kg have as much impact as a fly on a windscreen.
We need a loosie version of Tosi from the bench. Comfortable with ball running and a presence at the breakdown
I’m amazed the Blues fans haven’t mentioned Akira Ioane this year
Because even they know he's a lazy, flat track bully?
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
73:55 Savea picks it up while diving straight off his feet. Interesting ruck interpretation
Referee has been absolutely shit. Defending team only had to look at the ball and he blew a pen against the attackers. He missed so many knock ons, his advantages were all over the place and he even fucked the TMO call when his assistant ref advised him it should have been a penalty against ABs as Taylor clearly played the ball on the ground.
@Tordah said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Referee has been absolutely shit. Defending team only had to look at the ball and he blew a pen against the attackers.
That's his MO. He was the ref when Arg beat the ABs in Chch where none of the Pumas players needed to support their own weight to win a penalty at the breakdown. Consistent in this game but very different to most other refs.
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Sorry, I forgot about exits. What the hell is going on?
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
I think Razor needs to be a bit honest with himself and his coaching panel and get these blokes to knuckle down or fuck off.
1000% this.
And yet..... when he does this with certain players he is accused of provincial bias.......
It seems obvious already that the players who are going thrive most in Robertson's All Blacks environment are those who work hardest.
Which makes it all the more baffling and frustrating that some selections are based on reputations from three or four years ago.
Personally, I'm not worried of provincial bias, more out of date reputations and ultimately bad selections.
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Jeff Wilson chimes in "he has had a great first half".
He's a cheerleader and bootlicker at best. Such an inane Rugby pundit. Honestly, I don't know why Sky NZ subscribers ain't in open revolt about how poor and brainless their coverage of Rugby has become.
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Have become major fanboi of Wallace Sititi
Now has major expectations to be the next AB captain.
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It seems obvious already that the players who are going thrive most in Robertson's All Blacks environment are those who work hardest.
Which makes it all the more baffling and frustrating that some selections are based on reputations from three or four years ago.
Personally, I'm not worried of provincial bias, more out of date reputations and ultimately bad selections.
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How good is Caleb Clarke playing. Him and Jordan are on fire atm.
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
How good is Caleb Clarke playing. Him and Jordan are on fire atm.
Caleb to 12, Rieko to 11...............or did I pick the wrong day to start taking Fentanyl.
Id love a Clarke type body at 12.
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
How good is Caleb Clarke playing. Him and Jordan are on fire atm.
Caleb to 12, Rieko to 11...............or did I pick the wrong day to start taking Fentanyl.
Id love a Clarke type body at 12.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
How good is Caleb Clarke playing. Him and Jordan are on fire atm.
Caleb to 12, Rieko to 11...............or did I pick the wrong day to start taking Fentanyl.
Id love a Clarke type body at 12.
Ok John Mitchell. Settle down.
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
How good is Caleb Clarke playing. Him and Jordan are on fire atm.
Caleb to 12, Rieko to 11...............or did I pick the wrong day to start taking Fentanyl.
Id love a Clarke type body at 12.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Id love a Clarke type body at 12.
Sorry, this is the youngest-looking photo of her widely available, still quite a bit older than 12.
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This is a classic Bledisloe fluffer match for the ABs. An awful, awful Wallabies side to give them confidence they aren't on the wrong trajectory ahead of an EOYT.
A real team would have punished them for some of the silly mistakes they made out there.
@Horatio said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
This is a classic Bledisloe fluffer match for the ABs. An awful, awful Wallabies side to give them confidence they aren't on the wrong trajectory ahead of an EOYT.
A real team would have punished them for some of the silly mistakes they made out there.
It's the same Wallabies side that didn't entirely get humped by the Springboks, and won away against Argentina. For 120 minutes we owned the Springboks. It may have just been the game they needed to answer some questions.
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Beauden Barrett was NEVER a flyhalf.
His pace was so freakish that Wellington and the Allblacks just shrugged their shoulders and went with it.
He cannot control a game to save his life.
Hansen’s decision to bin off Cruden and pick BB as his 10 cost him a Lions series and a World Cup.
@junior said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
Beauden Barrett was NEVER a flyhalf.
His pace was so freakish that Wellington and the Allblacks just shrugged their shoulders and went with it.
He cannot control a game to save his life.
Hansen’s decision to bin off Cruden and pick BB as his 10 cost him a Lions series and a World Cup.
Ben Smith out of the team...
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
The ABs won, and probably would have won without those couple of lapses by the Wallabies, however I think this AB team is papering over cracks, and running out of glue.
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Your scrum got slapped around by a guy on one leg. I think perhaps you're missing a big grunter with technical nous in your second row.
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I thought - besides Sititi's tearing runs - your backrow got outplayed. Savea did a couple of nice things but you surely can't keep Cane on.
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Your defensive lineout is good. Attacking lineout generally OK but if the 10th ranked team is picking you off, the top 6N sides are going to be licking their lips.
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This helter-skelter bullshit in general play isn't going to cut it against top opponents with patience and cohesion. There aren't many guys in the starting 8 who are rolling up their sleeves and smashing blokes TBH. I don't think the ABs were dominant in contact as many times as the scoreline might otherwise suggest.
I think Razor needs to be a bit honest with himself and his coaching panel and get these blokes to knuckle down or fuck off.
Agree with all of this.
I am really concerned about the EOYT particularly with your 4th point in mind.
Think about those final 38 or so phases against Ireland in the RWC that ended the game.
This iteration of the Allblacks concedes a try or gets a bloke carded after 4 or 5 of those phases.
We are all fur coat and no knickers.
We dont have bread and butter players like Kaino, or Nonu who we can just drop it off to, to make a guaranteed 4 yards and then recycle and go again. And even if we did have those players we dont have a pragmatist in the ten shirt who wont just kick it away at the first sight of pressure.
Similarly we dont have Kainos or Brad Thorns or Mealamus who dont take a backward step in defence.
Ardie for example seems to always want a judo match on D.
Remember when Read used to just bend at the hips and empty people in the midriff. Ardie wants to have a cuddle and a wrestle. For all his leg drive exploits too, I yearn for a Harry Wilson or Vermuelen type who winds up for a big carry and just plays with a bit of spite.
We lack starch on both sides of the ball, and that gets you nowhere against England Ireland and France away from home.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:
The ABs won, and probably would have won without those couple of lapses by the Wallabies, however I think this AB team is papering over cracks, and running out of glue.
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Your scrum got slapped around by a guy on one leg. I think perhaps you're missing a big grunter with technical nous in your second row.
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I thought - besides Sititi's tearing runs - your backrow got outplayed. Savea did a couple of nice things but you surely can't keep Cane on.
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Your defensive lineout is good. Attacking lineout generally OK but if the 10th ranked team is picking you off, the top 6N sides are going to be licking their lips.
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This helter-skelter bullshit in general play isn't going to cut it against top opponents with patience and cohesion. There aren't many guys in the starting 8 who are rolling up their sleeves and smashing blokes TBH. I don't think the ABs were dominant in contact as many times as the scoreline might otherwise suggest.
I think Razor needs to be a bit honest with himself and his coaching panel and get these blokes to knuckle down or fuck off.
Agree with all of this.
I am really concerned about the EOYT particularly with your 4th point in mind.
Think about those final 38 or so phases against Ireland in the RWC that ended the game.
This iteration of the Allblacks concedes a try or gets a bloke carded after 4 or 5 of those phases.
We are all fur coat and no knickers.
We dont have bread and butter players like Kaino, or Nonu who we can just drop it off to, to make a guaranteed 4 yards and then recycle and go again. And even if we did have those players we dont have a pragmatist in the ten shirt who wont just kick it away at the first sight of pressure.
Similarly we dont have Kainos or Brad Thorns or Mealamus who dont take a backward step in defence.
Ardie for example seems to always want a judo match on D.
Remember when Read used to just bend at the hips and empty people in the midriff. Ardie wants to have a cuddle and a wrestle. For all his leg drive exploits too, I yearn for a Harry Wilson or Vermuelen type who winds up for a big carry and just plays with a bit of spite.
We lack starch on both sides of the ball, and that gets you nowhere against England Ireland and France away from home.
It was a step forward for this test no?
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