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All Blacks XV 2024

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    cgrant
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    If the selectors consider the AB XV as a development side, then the likes of Lauaki (THP), Taylor (hooker), Iose (LF), Haig (LF), Withy (LF), Millar (1st 5), Jacomb (1st 5), AJ Lam (utility back), Higgins (2nd 5), Tavatavanawai (wing), Naholo (wing) and Z Sullivan (FB) should be considered.

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      If the selectors consider the AB XV as a development side, then the likes of Lauaki (THP), Taylor (hooker), Iose (LF), Haig (LF), Withy (LF), Millar (1st 5), Jacomb (1st 5), AJ Lam (utility back), Higgins (2nd 5), Tavatavanawai (wing), Naholo (wing) and Z Sullivan (FB) should be considered.

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      @cgrant said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      If the selectors consider the AB XV as a development side, then the likes of Lauaki (THP), Taylor (hooker), Iose (LF), Haig (LF), Withy (LF), Millar (1st 5), Jacomb (1st 5), AJ Lam (utility back), Higgins (2nd 5), Tavatavanawai (wing), Naholo (wing) and Z Sullivan (FB) should be considered.

      Agree with those except Tavatavanawai. Think his time is quickly passing him by as a potential All Black.

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      • M Machpants

        So, do we think Sotutu 'hardest person to leave out of squad' will be in the group of XV that go to Japan... and will he say yeah nah to that possible time resetting cap? 😉

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        brodean
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        @Machpants

        If he's left out I think that comment Razor made comes across as dishonest.

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          Isn't he injured?

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            This announcement will spark some interesting posts today.

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              This announcement will spark some interesting posts today.

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              @Chris said in All Blacks EOYT:

              This announcement will spark some interesting posts today.

              What time is the announcement?

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                @Chris said in All Blacks EOYT:

                This announcement will spark some interesting posts today.

                What time is the announcement?

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                @Canes4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                @Chris said in All Blacks EOYT:

                This announcement will spark some interesting posts today.

                What time is the announcement?

                2pm

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  This announcement will spark some interesting posts today.

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                  brodean
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                  @Chris

                  I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                  FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                  Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

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                    @Chris

                    I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                    FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                    Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

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                    @brodean I'm still hoping. If he's not, then I hope that someone asks him:

                    1. why the fuck not?
                    2. why the fuck not, given what you said about him last time you announced a squad?
                    3. if you don't think you can get value out of the Super player of the year, are you the right person to coach the ABs?

                    But then I'm used to hoping in vain.

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                      @Chris

                      I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                      FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                      Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

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                      @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      @Chris

                      I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                      FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                      Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                      Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

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                        @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Chris

                        I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                        FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                        Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                        Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

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                        brodean
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                        @Chris

                        Well I'll guess we'll see in a couple of hours.

                        Sotutu doesn't strike me as the type of guy to head over to England. He still extended his Blues contract after getting rejected last year. He seems to be fairly family reliant.

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                          Landers92
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                          My list of players that I think should be lock ins to make it and ones I’d like to see. Just to be clear, I have heard nothing around this squad, this is just my personal list.

                          Lock ins:
                          Lakai
                          Numia
                          Jacomb
                          Plummer
                          Hotham
                          Holland
                          Lord
                          Narawa

                          Small tidbit. I know Z.Gallagher is rated very highly so don’t be surprised to see him named.

                          Ones I’d like to see:

                          • Jack Taylor - Some big talent and still a young age. Will only grow in these environments.

                          • Haig - Goes without saying with the chat around him this season and as we all know the ABs could do with a proper 6 that can cover lock at a pinch.

                          • Zarn Sullivan - Been knocked around by injury this year but one heck of a player who is in a bit of a Perofeta spot at the moment, is he a 10 or is he a 15. Get him in the environment for a closer look.

                          • Caleb Delaney - Quiet NPC season but huge in Super and went about his business. Could have a big future.

                          • Riley Higgins - Keep him in the midfield and he will continue to go up to another level. His chance to own the Canes 12 jersey with J.Barrett heading off too.

                          • Cam Millar - Touch and go here but a third 10 in the environment behind Plummer and Jacomb won’t hurt. Need as much depth as we can get here. Also think Plummer will link with the AB’s so a 3rd 10 will be needed. Talent is there, might just take another year or so to look comfortable.

                          • AJ Lam - no explanation needed here imo.

                          • Kini Naholo - See above

                          • JRK - See above. Also chat about him being tempted by Fiji, get him into the environment now! Massive talent.

                          • Brayden Iose - A stand out for the Hurricanes, deserves recognition and a chance to kick on.

                          • Quinn Tupaea - Unsure how well he has been tracking for Waikato as I haven’t watched all their games but we do know there is a player in there, injuries just slowed him down a bit. Keep him around for this tour.

                          • Hoskins Sotutu - We all know he deserves it.

                          • Lio-Willie - Undeniable form for Otago and the Crusaders this year. He deserves his spot.

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                            @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @Chris

                            I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                            FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                            Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                            Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

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                            Machpants
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                            @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @Chris

                            I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                            FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                            Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                            Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

                            Not if he only plays for the XV it doesn't

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                              @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Chris

                              I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                              FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                              Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                              Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

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                              george33
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                              @Chris are you saying Hoskins will be selected in the XV squad ?, or is this just what your thinking.

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                                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Chris

                                I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                                FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                                Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                                Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

                                Not if he only plays for the XV it doesn't

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                                @Machpants said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                @Chris

                                I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                                FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                                Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                                Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

                                Not if he only plays for the XV it doesn't

                                I think those rules have changed.

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                                  My list of players that I think should be lock ins to make it and ones I’d like to see. Just to be clear, I have heard nothing around this squad, this is just my personal list.

                                  Lock ins:
                                  Lakai
                                  Numia
                                  Jacomb
                                  Plummer
                                  Hotham
                                  Holland
                                  Lord
                                  Narawa

                                  Small tidbit. I know Z.Gallagher is rated very highly so don’t be surprised to see him named.

                                  Ones I’d like to see:

                                  • Jack Taylor - Some big talent and still a young age. Will only grow in these environments.

                                  • Haig - Goes without saying with the chat around him this season and as we all know the ABs could do with a proper 6 that can cover lock at a pinch.

                                  • Zarn Sullivan - Been knocked around by injury this year but one heck of a player who is in a bit of a Perofeta spot at the moment, is he a 10 or is he a 15. Get him in the environment for a closer look.

                                  • Caleb Delaney - Quiet NPC season but huge in Super and went about his business. Could have a big future.

                                  • Riley Higgins - Keep him in the midfield and he will continue to go up to another level. His chance to own the Canes 12 jersey with J.Barrett heading off too.

                                  • Cam Millar - Touch and go here but a third 10 in the environment behind Plummer and Jacomb won’t hurt. Need as much depth as we can get here. Also think Plummer will link with the AB’s so a 3rd 10 will be needed. Talent is there, might just take another year or so to look comfortable.

                                  • AJ Lam - no explanation needed here imo.

                                  • Kini Naholo - See above

                                  • JRK - See above. Also chat about him being tempted by Fiji, get him into the environment now! Massive talent.

                                  • Brayden Iose - A stand out for the Hurricanes, deserves recognition and a chance to kick on.

                                  • Quinn Tupaea - Unsure how well he has been tracking for Waikato as I haven’t watched all their games but we do know there is a player in there, injuries just slowed him down a bit. Keep him around for this tour.

                                  • Hoskins Sotutu - We all know he deserves it.

                                  • Lio-Willie - Undeniable form for Otago and the Crusaders this year. He deserves his spot.

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                                  brodean
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                                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  ot.

                                  Good list.

                                  The only one I would question is Kini Naholo. I think there are others like Narawa or Stevenson who offer more.

                                  Taylor has an excellent workrate but he lacks a bit of impact to his game.

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                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    @Chris

                                    I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                                    FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                                    Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                                    Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

                                    Not if he only plays for the XV it doesn't

                                    I think those rules have changed.

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                                    Machpants
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                                    @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    @Chris

                                    I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                                    FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                                    Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                                    Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

                                    Not if he only plays for the XV it doesn't

                                    I think those rules have changed.

                                    Have NZR decalred the XV as second team? I haven't seen anything anywhere that says anything has changed, from either NZR or WR

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                                      @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      @Chris

                                      I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                                      FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                                      Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                                      Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      @Chris

                                      I don't think anyone is expecting Sotutu to be there.

                                      FIhaki will be in too even though Hutchinson has already surpassed him at 15.

                                      Millar, Haig and Holland will also be new guys but they have talent worth investigating after being fairly consistent form wise and players who get regularly mentioned.

                                      Sotutu will be selected wether he takes up the spot is anyones guess if he has a shift overseas in mind, if he goes it will re set his 3 year stand down.

                                      Which could be the ulterior motive for his selection................(laughs evilly)

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                                        brodean
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                                        I don't think All Blacks XV is officially a second team.

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                                          reprobate
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                                          I didn't think so either, I thought I remembered it being the Maori and thinking that was a bit odd given the eligibility criteria - but now I'm 2nd-guessing myself.

                                          The ever-reliable allblacks.com says "The All Blacks XV was launched as NZR’s next senior national representative team after the All Blacks, as a critical high-performance pathway to the All Blacks. As the next senior national representative side, the All Blacks XV will have the same high expectations as the other Teams in Black."

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