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    @Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    Shouldn’t be a card

    That's a YC all day

    Close to RC if he hadn't dipped

    Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO

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    Mathis is a freak.

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    @MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    Shouldn’t be a card

    That's a YC all day

    Close to RC if he hadn't dipped

    Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO

    if he hadnt dipped would have got him in the chest

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    Well went up to game, had impression Naki boys may of had a bit of shield hangover or something. Very much had impression in first half they were almost going through motions. They seemed to be doing moves etc, but just not looking excited or something as they did? Hard to explain.
    Missed Boshier and Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens I thought.
    Actually reasonably comfortable with result at end of game, Waikato deserved win and I had said I couldn't see us winning the comp this year.
    For Waikato , I can see why AB selectors like Jacobson, stops opposition players, and was good over ball, also puts himself in good positions to make it hard fot oppsition.

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    @ploughboy said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    Shouldn’t be a card

    That's a YC all day

    Close to RC if he hadn't dipped

    Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO

    if he hadnt dipped would have got him in the chest

    And he didn’t and got his deserved censure

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    @MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @ploughboy said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    Shouldn’t be a card

    That's a YC all day

    Close to RC if he hadn't dipped

    Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO

    if he hadnt dipped would have got him in the chest

    And he didn’t and got his deserved censure

    josh j dipped

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    @ploughboy said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @ploughboy said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @MiketheSnow said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    @Canes4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    Shouldn’t be a card

    That's a YC all day

    Close to RC if he hadn't dipped

    Not much of an attempt to wrap IMHO

    if he hadnt dipped would have got him in the chest

    And he didn’t and got his deserved censure

    josh j dipped

    Exactly

    Finau didn’t react to the attacker’s position

    His target area was most probably 20cm x 20cm

    High reward, high risk

    Dropping his right shoulder didn’t help him with either accuracy or reaction time

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    That is the worst fucking take Mike with all due respect

    Finau's back is parallel with the ground, he's done everything he can. The tackled player at the last second dips in to him. I love that you think he can magically stop time and do something different.

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    @Dan54

    Yeah Boshier and JRK were big losses and Waikato had some gains with their ABs in the forwards.

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    My 2c.

    It was a yellow for the indirect head contact. That's the laws.

    But in terms of deservedness:

    • Finau was crouched low
    • Jacomb dipped
    • first contact was with the upper arm/shoulder, thus
    • head contact was indirect

    It was a tough yellow IMO.

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    @booboo said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    My 2c.

    It was a yellow for the indirect head contact. That's the laws.

    But in terms of deservedness:

    • Finau was crouched low
    • Jacomb dipped
    • first contact was with the upper arm/shoulder, thus
    • head contact was indirect

    It was a tough yellow IMO.

    Head contact alone isn't enough. The second question is was there foul play

    Now I couldn't hear the ref because Marshall was was saying same inane shit over the top of the ref. Personally I think Finau mostly bent at the hips however there was no attempt to wrap.. a trailing arm is not a wrap

    Video for those that missed it:

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    Watched it with no sound and assumed he was binned for not using his arms. Was shit technique and he deserved to be binned.

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    I didn't have sound at game, and as a Naki supporter I thought it perhaps fair if harsh yellow. And sorry @Toddy even I thought he used his arms, his first contact is with shouder (as all tackles should be) but definitely no cocked arms for a shoulder slam or anything.

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    @mariner4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    That is the worst fucking take Mike with all due respect

    Finau's back is parallel with the ground, he's done everything he can. The tackled player at the last second dips in to him. I love that you think he can magically stop time and do something different.

    Our opinions differ

    IMHO the video evidence posted shows it was YC worthy for the reasons outlined

    If the target area had been the guts with proper tackling technique we wouldn’t be having this discussion

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    It was.

    I love how the target area has to be lower than legal or your in the wrong. He's not even coming up like those ones you see that go really wrong.

    This was caused by the tackled player but apparently that isn't a thing.

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    @mariner4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    It was.

    I love how the target area has to be lower than legal or your in the wrong. He's not even coming up like those ones you see that go really wrong.

    This was caused by the tackled player but apparently that isn't a thing.

    The tackled player dipped 15cm

    Fine margins

    This time Fin-ow

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    Lol 15cm

    You and i should stop this. It's clear we view the game so very differently. I reckon we've had the same conversation a dozen times.

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    @mariner4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    Lol 15cm

    You and i should stop this. It's clear we view the game so very differently. I reckon we've had the same conversation a dozen times.

    Probably

    Players aren't learning

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    And you're unrealistic

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    @mariner4life said in Taranaki v Waikato (QF):

    And you're unrealistic

    Possibly

    But I'm in agreement with the card flashers

    If I was a pro athlete I'd be making significant changes to my game to not fall foul of the current interpretations

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