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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @MajorRage said in Other Cricket:

    @Catogrande said in Other Cricket:

    @scribe

    Sadly, there’s always that question mark

    I disagree. This is the only place I've seen comments about it.

    That stuff is in the past, and as kiwis with Lou Vincent and "others" we have absolutely no soap box to stand on.

    Will this pitch kill test cricket? I don't buy that. We got a result didn't we? Part and parcel of the game is variable pitches, scores and innings. Watching Root & Brooke dismantle a tired and disheartened bowling attack was superb viewing. Then seeing the platinum duck straight after was a real sit up and watch moment.

    Yes, I wouldn't want every match played on such a road, but I wouldn't on a pitch were 200 is an excellent score either.

    But, but, this is where I get all my news and facts from...

    I actually agree with you re the pitch, though I think @Dodge was feeling that there are a few too many such pitches currently, particularly in the sub continent. But as you say, variety is what we really want.

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    @Catogrande said in Other Cricket:

    @MajorRage said in Other Cricket:

    @Catogrande said in Other Cricket:

    @scribe

    Sadly, there’s always that question mark

    I disagree. This is the only place I've seen comments about it.

    That stuff is in the past, and as kiwis with Lou Vincent and "others" we have absolutely no soap box to stand on.

    Will this pitch kill test cricket? I don't buy that. We got a result didn't we? Part and parcel of the game is variable pitches, scores and innings. Watching Root & Brooke dismantle a tired and disheartened bowling attack was superb viewing. Then seeing the platinum duck straight after was a real sit up and watch moment.

    Yes, I wouldn't want every match played on such a road, but I wouldn't on a pitch were 200 is an excellent score either.

    But, but, this is where I get all my news and facts from...

    I actually agree with you re the pitch, though I think @Dodge was feeling that there are a few too many such pitches currently, particularly in the sub continent. But as you say, variety is what we really want.

    Then you are stupider than I thought. It was as low bar to begin with too.

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    • MajorPomM MajorPom

      @Catogrande said in Other Cricket:

      @scribe

      Sadly, there’s always that question mark

      I disagree. This is the only place I've seen comments about it.

      That stuff is in the past, and as kiwis with Lou Vincent and "others" we have absolutely no soap box to stand on.

      Will this pitch kill test cricket? I don't buy that. We got a result didn't we? Part and parcel of the game is variable pitches, scores and innings. Watching Root & Brooke dismantle a tired and disheartened bowling attack was superb viewing. Then seeing the platinum duck straight after was a real sit up and watch moment.

      Yes, I wouldn't want every match played on such a road, but I wouldn't on a pitch were 200 is an excellent score either.

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      #1288

      @MajorRage said in Other Cricket:

      @Catogrande said in Other Cricket:

      @scribe

      Sadly, there’s always that question mark

      I disagree. This is the only place I've seen comments about it.

      That stuff is in the past, and as kiwis with Lou Vincent and "others" we have absolutely no soap box to stand on.

      Will this pitch kill test cricket? I don't buy that. We got a result didn't we? Part and parcel of the game is variable pitches, scores and innings. Watching Root & Brooke dismantle a tired and disheartened bowling attack was superb viewing. Then seeing the platinum duck straight after was a real sit up and watch moment.

      Yes, I wouldn't want every match played on such a road, but I wouldn't on a pitch were 200 is an excellent score either.

      I think the problem is that the pitch was a road throughout and that it didn't really change, it was not a balance between bat and ball, Pakistan were just exhausted after chasing a ball around for as long as they had too in that heat. The pitch was shocking IMO.

      There's another game here in 3 days time, in my view they should use the same pitch

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      • DodgeD Dodge

        @MajorRage said in Other Cricket:

        @Catogrande said in Other Cricket:

        @scribe

        Sadly, there’s always that question mark

        I disagree. This is the only place I've seen comments about it.

        That stuff is in the past, and as kiwis with Lou Vincent and "others" we have absolutely no soap box to stand on.

        Will this pitch kill test cricket? I don't buy that. We got a result didn't we? Part and parcel of the game is variable pitches, scores and innings. Watching Root & Brooke dismantle a tired and disheartened bowling attack was superb viewing. Then seeing the platinum duck straight after was a real sit up and watch moment.

        Yes, I wouldn't want every match played on such a road, but I wouldn't on a pitch were 200 is an excellent score either.

        I think the problem is that the pitch was a road throughout and that it didn't really change, it was not a balance between bat and ball, Pakistan were just exhausted after chasing a ball around for as long as they had too in that heat. The pitch was shocking IMO.

        There's another game here in 3 days time, in my view they should use the same pitch

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        @Dodge I'm certainly not saying every pitch should be like this - far from it.

        But we did get a result on the 5th day & cricket has always been about more than bat vs ball. So the odd pitch like this is fine by me.

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        • MajorPomM MajorPom

          @Catogrande said in Other Cricket:

          @MajorRage said in Other Cricket:

          @Catogrande said in Other Cricket:

          @scribe

          Sadly, there’s always that question mark

          I disagree. This is the only place I've seen comments about it.

          That stuff is in the past, and as kiwis with Lou Vincent and "others" we have absolutely no soap box to stand on.

          Will this pitch kill test cricket? I don't buy that. We got a result didn't we? Part and parcel of the game is variable pitches, scores and innings. Watching Root & Brooke dismantle a tired and disheartened bowling attack was superb viewing. Then seeing the platinum duck straight after was a real sit up and watch moment.

          Yes, I wouldn't want every match played on such a road, but I wouldn't on a pitch were 200 is an excellent score either.

          But, but, this is where I get all my news and facts from...

          I actually agree with you re the pitch, though I think @Dodge was feeling that there are a few too many such pitches currently, particularly in the sub continent. But as you say, variety is what we really want.

          Then you are stupider than I thought. It was as low bar to begin with too.

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          @MajorRage

          I am proud to be able to continually surprise people.

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            #1291

            In this case, Pakistan were genuinely cooked by that stage of the match. To add to Ollie Pope's score, must have been pretty gutting for Abdullah Shafique to field for 150 overs on the dot, and then lose off stump first ball. But for both openers, that's the Test match joys of being ground into the dust in the field.

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            • MajorPomM MajorPom

              @Catogrande said in Other Cricket:

              @scribe

              Sadly, there’s always that question mark

              I disagree. This is the only place I've seen comments about it.

              That stuff is in the past, and as kiwis with Lou Vincent and "others" we have absolutely no soap box to stand on.

              Will this pitch kill test cricket? I don't buy that. We got a result didn't we? Part and parcel of the game is variable pitches, scores and innings. Watching Root & Brooke dismantle a tired and disheartened bowling attack was superb viewing. Then seeing the platinum duck straight after was a real sit up and watch moment.

              Yes, I wouldn't want every match played on such a road, but I wouldn't on a pitch were 200 is an excellent score either.

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              Donsteppa
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              #1292

              @MajorRage said in Other Cricket:

              as kiwis with Lou Vincent and "others" we have absolutely no soap box to stand on.

              Given the context of what happened, I will always feel a little bit flat that he is the only one we can put a name to.

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              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                @MajorRage said in Other Cricket:

                as kiwis with Lou Vincent and "others" we have absolutely no soap box to stand on.

                Given the context of what happened, I will always feel a little bit flat that he is the only one we can put a name to.

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                @Donsteppa

                From the outside it seemed as though he was the fall guy?

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                  #1294

                  Yep. From memory his ban was once so complete that he couldn't even help out with kids cricket at the nets, until it was relaxed.

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                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                    In this case, Pakistan were genuinely cooked by that stage of the match. To add to Ollie Pope's score, must have been pretty gutting for Abdullah Shafique to field for 150 overs on the dot, and then lose off stump first ball. But for both openers, that's the Test match joys of being ground into the dust in the field.

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                    #1295

                    @Donsteppa said in Other Cricket:

                    In this case, Pakistan were genuinely cooked by that stage of the match. To add to Ollie Pope's score, must have been pretty gutting for Abdullah Shafique to field for 150 overs on the dot, and then lose off stump first ball. But for both openers, that's the Test match joys of being ground into the dust in the field.

                    Yeah I think I recall an interview with Ross Taylor on the radio where he mentioned as a cricketer ( especially a batsman ) you’re failing more times than succeeding ie a hundred is obviously a great effort but you only get them every now and again and can often get a string of shit scores in between.

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                      #1296

                      The White Ferns 2 from 3 at the T20 World Cup after beating Sri Lanka and keeping Chamari Athapaththu relatively quiet.

                      On the plus side, they don't lose everything when they're playing sides other than Australia and England. However, still a big question mark over their batting and strike rates against sides like Oz and England...

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                        Bovidae
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                        #1297

                        The White Ferns won't have a better chance of making a final now with the WI's upset win over England meaning that England goes home.

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                          Wow - I'd taken that result for granted.

                          West Indies clearly are good enough to be there over England, so that's a big consideration. But I do like our chances a lot better v them. Especially if Taylor is still out injured.

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                            I am not someone who slags off womens sport but Jesus the quality of what I’ve seen in this tournament is embarrassing- Alex Hartley (ex England and now a really good addition to TMS) reckons that only 80% of the England team are fit enough to play international cricket. With that, the pathetic fielding performance and inability to hit it off the square those players ought to be ashamed of themselves. They’re letting the women’s game down. Actually can’t bring myself to watch it it’s so bad.

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                              Apparently Joseph, the West Indian opener, was dropped 5 times before England actually caught one.

                              Plenty of drops in the NZ v Pakistan game as well.

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                                #1301

                                7 drop catches by Pakistan IIRC. NZ have some very average catchers too.

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                                  7 drop catches by Pakistan IIRC. NZ have some very average catchers too.

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                                  @Bovidae said in Other Cricket:

                                  7 drop catches by Pakistan IIRC. NZ have some very average catchers too.

                                  going to be excellent watching today for Pakistan England. Game is poised - could swing either way. Pakistan in front, but not by too much

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                                    #1303

                                    Therein lies the challenge for NZ/SA/WI this weekend in the World Cup. The Aussies won't drop anywhere near that number of catches or give so many chances.

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @Bovidae said in Other Cricket:

                                      7 drop catches by Pakistan IIRC. NZ have some very average catchers too.

                                      going to be excellent watching today for Pakistan England. Game is poised - could swing either way. Pakistan in front, but not by too much

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                                      @nzzp said in Other Cricket:

                                      @Bovidae said in Other Cricket:

                                      7 drop catches by Pakistan IIRC. NZ have some very average catchers too.

                                      going to be excellent watching today for Pakistan England. Game is poised - could swing either way. Pakistan in front, but not by too much

                                      A slightly less ridiculous scorecard than the last test it must be said. Pakistan don’t have much of a lead and England could easily Bazball their way to victory.

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @nzzp said in Other Cricket:

                                        @Bovidae said in Other Cricket:

                                        7 drop catches by Pakistan IIRC. NZ have some very average catchers too.

                                        going to be excellent watching today for Pakistan England. Game is poised - could swing either way. Pakistan in front, but not by too much

                                        A slightly less ridiculous scorecard than the last test it must be said. Pakistan don’t have much of a lead and England could easily Bazball their way to victory.

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                                        @MN5 only 4 down

                                        Will be interesting. This pitch seems like it's doing more

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                                          South Africa beat the Aussie women in the World Twenty20.

                                          Australia are out!

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