Americas cup
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@sparky said in Americas cup:
The average speed of the two boats is similar, but Team NZ are much more efficient and careful in their movements.
VMG means the boat is sailing to the mark better. If the average speed is even but the NZ boat can sail a better VMG that can mean that the NZ boat performs better. It’s not all about outright speed
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@W32 said in Americas cup:
@sparky said in Americas cup:
The average speed of the two boats is similar, but Team NZ are much more efficient and careful in their movements.
VMG means the boat is sailing to the mark better. If the average speed is even but the NZ boat can sail a better VMG that can mean that the NZ boat performs better. It’s not all about outright speed
0.4knts vmg is a a decent performance increase over Ineos.
Im expecting this to be over fairly in a few days although will be interesting seeing how Ineos compete in the upper wind range. They were very impressive in dispatching LRPP in a higher wind range.
Ainslie needs to win the starts but from what we have seen, I am not sure they have the boat to keep ETNZ behind them if they get in front.
I was hoping for a more competitive series. I suppose I shouldn’t get ahead of myself here but 3-0 does look ominous.
I do t think a hugely dominant ETNZ smashing Ineos 7-0 is going to do a lot for AM and challengers coming into the next one. It can’t be too attractive for a new syndicate to drop $100m for the chance to get humiliated by the kiwi team.
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@MajorRage said in Americas cup:
Lots here have forgotten 8-1 to 8-9.
That was exciting. Hope for something like that. Gotta say as a neutral I’m pulling for the Brit’s .. just makes for a better event if they win. Huge respect to the NZ sailors and tech team. Sailing in America has really faded away. ..
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@MajorRage said in Americas cup:
Lots here have forgotten 8-1 to 8-9.
the faster boat won. It just took a few races to figure out how to sail it again as they lost their lead sail trimmer (from memory)
Did they also start on negative points? Negative two? So 8-1 was more like 8-3 in reality?
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3-zip to TNZ, can't have asked for a better start. Hopefully we can make it a clean sheet and maybe, just maybe we'll be able to see this event back on NZ shores again.
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@Canes4life Very unlikely we will see it here. Dalton's talking up how well Barcelona is hosting. Can't see Luxon stumping up the kind of cash needed to secure hosting rights. The event probably is better in Europe TBH much more likely to get a decent number of challengers.
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@dogmeat said in Americas cup:
@Canes4life Very unlikely we will see it here. Dalton's talking up how well Barcelona is hosting. Can't see Luxon stumping up the kind of cash needed to secure hosting rights. The event probably is better in Europe TBH much more likely to get a decent number of challengers.
Might have to make the trip next time then.
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Yeah it was McIvor. The experts with him are pretty good at explaining detailed stuff quite simply. I think it’s Glen Ashby who sailed with ETNZ last time, and English sailing legend Shirley Robertson. They also have Peter Lester in his 11th America's Cup campaign. The latter reckons the kiwis get up to speed faster through the tacks and that’s the biggest difference between the respective boats.
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@scribe said in Americas cup:
Yeah it was McIvor. The experts with him are pretty good at explaining detailed stuff quite simply. I think it’s Glen Ashby who sailed with ETNZ last time, and English sailing legend Shirley Robertson. They also have Peter Lester in his 11th America's Cup campaign. The latter reckons the kiwis get up to speed faster through the tacks and that’s the biggest difference between the respective boats.
At the moment ETNZ get up to hull speed way faster and their VMG is better. Basically gaining 50m per tack and gybe.
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@booboo said in Americas cup:
Who was/is the commentator?
Sounds like Stephen McIvor. Is it?
McIvor is cringe personified. I really enjoyed Ken Read, young man in an older man's body. Essentially the Murray Mexted of sailing.
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This is a real shame IMHO.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350451102/new-zealand-unlikely-host-next-americas-cup-regatta
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not surprised as i dont think there is any chance of auckland or NZ wanting to get ETNZ back after they left....but i fond the comment about Auckland not being ready in 2 years weird...would have thought they could re do a lot of what they did in 2021 easy enough
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@Donsteppa said in Americas cup:
One of Emirates Team New Zealand’s senior people has told Italian media that Aotearoa is not on the cards for the next America’s Cup regatta if they win.
Which is why "Team New Zealand" can get in the bin.
the question though, if what ETNZ has at least suggested is truth, that they couldnt fund a successful defence without taking a payday overseas...should they have just done it in NZ and lost it?
