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All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham

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    Billy Tell
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    Is De Groot injured?

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      I’d guess that EDG not a 💯. Perhaps also Fletch.

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        sparky
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        #204

        Talking points:

        A 5-3 bench when England are going 6-2
        No sign of De Groot
        Vaii ahead of Patrick T
        Sititi at 6 rather 8
        Ratima at 9 ahead of Roigard
        B. Barrett at 10 ahead of DMac
        Will Jordan picked at 15 not 14.
        No sign of Reece

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          Talking points:

          A 5-3 bench when England are going 6-2
          No sign of De Groot
          Vaii ahead of Patrick T
          Sititi at 6 rather 8
          Ratima at 9 ahead of Roigard
          B. Barrett at 10 ahead of DMac
          Will Jordan picked at 15 not 14.
          No sign of Reece

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          @sparky have a look at 15 again

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            @sparky have a look at 15 again

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            sparky
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            #206

            @KiwiInLondon Thanks, typing error on my phone, edited.

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              Talking points:

              A 5-3 bench when England are going 6-2
              No sign of De Groot
              Vaii ahead of Patrick T
              Sititi at 6 rather 8
              Ratima at 9 ahead of Roigard
              B. Barrett at 10 ahead of DMac
              Will Jordan picked at 15 not 14.
              No sign of Reece

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              Billy Tell
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              @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

              Talking points:

              A 5-3 bench when England are going 6-2
              No sign of De Groot
              Vaii ahead of Patrick T
              Sititi at 6 rather 8
              Ratima at 9 ahead of Roigard
              B. Barrett at 10 ahead of DMac
              Will Jordan picked at 14 rather than 15.
              No sign of Reece

              Vaii ahead of PT is not a talking point imo

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              • sparkyS sparky

                Talking points:

                A 5-3 bench when England are going 6-2
                No sign of De Groot
                Vaii ahead of Patrick T
                Sititi at 6 rather 8
                Ratima at 9 ahead of Roigard
                B. Barrett at 10 ahead of DMac
                Will Jordan picked at 15 not 14.
                No sign of Reece

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                @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                Talking points:

                A 5-3 bench when England are going 6-2
                No sign of De Groot
                Vaii ahead of Patrick T
                Sititi at 6 rather 8
                Ratima at 9 ahead of Roigard
                B. Barrett at 10 ahead of DMac
                Will Jordan picked at 14 rather than 15.
                No sign of Reece

                Vaa’i starts or not at all. Patty brings impact. So no surprise.
                Must be one of the heaviest pack benches we’ve ever fielded.

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                  KiwiInLondon
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                  Those five forwards on the bench have a real opportunity to come on and boss the English. Last time at Twickenham that forwards on the bench (including our Lord and Saviour) lost us the game

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                    Rangi
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                    EDG not there I suspect is a fitness issue.
                    TJP now just a mentor.
                    Good to see Finau getting more minutes.

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                      Talking points:

                      A 5-3 bench when England are going 6-2
                      No sign of De Groot
                      Vaii ahead of Patrick T
                      Sititi at 6 rather 8
                      Ratima at 9 ahead of Roigard
                      B. Barrett at 10 ahead of DMac
                      Will Jordan picked at 14 rather than 15.
                      No sign of Reece

                      Vaii ahead of PT is not a talking point imo

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                      @Billy-Tell Maybe that's conversation. At the start of the year, we were worried about Lock. Now it's an area of strength.

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                        Rangi
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                        #212

                        10 is now our only real worry

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                          sparky
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                          Is Finau best used off the bench?

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                            10 is now our only real worry

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                            @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                            10 is now our only real worry

                            And complacency.

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                              sparky
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                              #215

                              Will England find a way to run away from or past Mark Telea?

                              He's a great stepper, but his lack of top speed as been notable in other Tests this year.

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                                EDG's absence is a disciplinary thing apparently.

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                                  @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  10 is now our only real worry

                                  And complacency.

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                                  @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  10 is now our only real worry

                                  And complacency.

                                  True

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                                    #218

                                    God I hate the backline..

                                    Beauden at 10..why? He is going to kick most the ball away, and barely gets our attack going compared to Dmac.

                                    Last game against Aussie we looked decidedly average for the first 60 minutes he was leading. His passing is just quite poor. He shuffles and the rest of the backline pays the price.

                                    And he's 33...so what is this working towards?

                                    Jordie/Rieko continuing their tenure as guaranteed starting midfielders. No surprise the last 5 years we have struggled on attack coincides with when we decided to stick two midfielders who either can't pass or choose not to as our starting pair.

                                    Why are we obsessed with ATHLETES at centre? Conrad was our best center ever and all he did was spend the entire game trying to set up players outside him.

                                    Meh..

                                    At least our pack is trending towards World Class

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                                      KiwiMurph
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                                      Once you factored in who didn't play vs Japan and injuries - a very predictable 23 outside of no EDG.

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                                        Bones
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                                        Yeah, that should take care of England without too much stress.

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                                          #221

                                          The two sides look very evenly matched to me.

                                          Based on form this year and home advantage, England to win by less than 3, but if the All Blacks reduce their error rate they'll win.

                                          https://twitter.com/TightFive_Rugby/status/1851953517105226199

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