All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham
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@Jet said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On paper you’ve got your win, but England had a kick to win with 90 seconds in the clock and bottled it.
Let’s get real here.
We were dominating until the intercept. They didn't once look like scoring a try.
NZ in 2013 were losing to Ireland in the 80th minute before stealing it.
Did that win have an asterisk next to it??
I didn't realize we're talking about 'what ifs' now.
We won.
@kpkanz said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
We were dominating until the intercept. They didn't once look like scoring a try.
Maybe toughing a win will hopefully be a turning point, but you have to ask what caused us to go from dominating to narrowly winning by 1 point - and even that was down to England missing two kicks we gifted to them thru appalling discipline.
And comparing tis team to the 2013 vintage is a bit fanciful, I reckon
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Or maybe they took that big step forward by winning the game in the last 15 minutes.
We won against England in the last 15 minutes in Robertson's first game. Now getting back to that level is a big step forward? Some progress eh?
That said, it was a plus compared to the 2nd half clueless drivel that Robertson and his team have served up so far this year..
Change your name to Captain "Fozzy Fanboi" Miserable. We just won a test at Twickenham. Have been harping on all season that we can't score in the last 20.
Mate, we came close to blowing it in the last 5 minutes by the usual poor discipline, decision making and leadership.
But playing well for 10-15minutes in the last 60 is a huge improvement for this team and its coaches, I'll give you that.
But also came close to blowing that game wide open. Ratima gave them the "in".
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But also came close to blowing that game wide open. Ratima gave them the "in".
Exactly my point. We threw the opportunity away. Again.
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To add to the missed drop goal and penalty shot, Ford's defence on Telea's second try was poor as well
@KiwiMurph Should've backed Smith, eh. He'd played well.
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Highlights with the English commentary -
@Daffy-Jaffy Thanks for that - watching it, I suddenly realised that on my dodgy-stream - I didn't actually see a single one of the points being scored. Filled in the gaps of my torrid watching experience nicely.
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ABs definitely the better team but battled the ref, the crowd, and their own stupidity. England were playing the ball off the ground and had a free pass at the breakdown defending their line. Gardner, give yourself a sternum punch.
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@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But also came close to blowing that game wide open. Ratima gave them the "in".
Exactly my point. We threw the opportunity away. Again.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But also came close to blowing that game wide open. Ratima gave them the "in".
Exactly my point. We threw the opportunity away. Again.
Would you rather be the ABs creating opportunities or England creating none? No one is saying it was flawless. Pretty fucking sure we're all frustrated AF with all the missed opportunities we don't finish. But we scored three tries, finished the game stronger, and win despite ourselves. England fluffed kicks at the end.
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Wallace Sititi was my player of the day, fuck he’s awesome. Mark Telea had some beautiful touches as well and how about that try.
Beauden isn’t the answer at 10, kick…kick…kick. Jesus Christ, we looked more like England than England at times. Where’s the innovation?
Fair play to Aumua as well, his line out throwing was pretty solid for the most part and played a full 77 mins.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But also came close to blowing that game wide open. Ratima gave them the "in".
Exactly my point. We threw the opportunity away. Again.
Would you rather be the ABs creating opportunities or England creating none? No one is saying it was flawless. Pretty fucking sure we're all frustrated AF with all the missed opportunities we don't finish. But we scored three tries, finished the game stronger, and win despite ourselves. England fluffed kicks at the end.
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But also came close to blowing that game wide open. Ratima gave them the "in".
Exactly my point. We threw the opportunity away. Again.
Would you rather be the ABs creating opportunities or England creating none? No one is saying it was flawless. Pretty fucking sure we're all frustrated AF with all the missed opportunities we don't finish. But we scored three tries, finished the game stronger, and win despite ourselves. England fluffed kicks at the end.
I'd rather the AB's focussed on scoring and didn't have such shit discipline a team producing minimal opportunities loses a game by 1 point - despite the AB's keeping them in the game .
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On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah right@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Discipline is the massive work on for the ABs.
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Couldn't be arsed getting up to watch this crop of ABs...15 mins into replay and I've had enough...
We are not developing enough new talent, BB and Ardie are well beyond their used by dates. Cane not quite as bad.... But worth a mention too.
End of year tours were once used to to give new blood a chance...
I had really hoped for better from Razor this year
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Already 1 win more on tour than some had been predicting in the past week...
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Already 1 win more on tour than some had been predicting in the past week...
Close thing, but I'm hoping that win is a turning point and we'll get ourselves up for the Oirish game. In fact i'd be sweet if they blew it in the last 5 minutes like today.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Already 1 win more on tour than some had been predicting in the past week...
Close thing, but I'm hoping that win is a turning point and we'll get ourselves up for the Oirish game. In fact i'd be sweet if they blew it in the last 5 minutes like today.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Already 1 win more on tour than some had been predicting in the past week...
Close thing, but I'm hoping that win is a turning point and we'll get ourselves up for the Oirish game. In fact i'd be sweet if they blew it in the last 5 minutes like today.
3-0 vs England in 2024. Each one could have gone the other way. Happy days.
Happiest man in England tonight, Razor. -
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
@canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
Our lineout is crap, leadership is crap, composure is crap, discipline is crap, inside backs crap
Still cant wait for the next game. Bring it on. -
@canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
Our lineout is crap, leadership is crap, composure is crap, discipline is crap, inside backs crap
Still cant wait for the next game. Bring it on.@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
Our lineout is crap, leadership is crap, composure is crap, discipline is crap, inside backs crap
Still cant wait for the next game. Bring it on.Definitely a work in progress. I am hoping for a signature win to turn the corner and get an era going.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
On that I'll disciplined PoS display, Ireland sand France will chew us up and spit us out. But hopefully we've learnt...
... Yeah rightI dunno. Discipline was utter shite and arguably the worst this year, but that was a huge improvement in the last 40 minutes compared to recent crap served up - we didn't actually go completely to pieces and played really well for at least 10-15 minutes.
#slight sarcasm alert#
Back handed compliments. The bar is so low for the ABs right now....
@canefan what if, they somehow manage to win the next 2 playing so ugly...learning to win ugly will surely lead to some 'prettier' wins down the road?
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Really??
https://x.com/stephenjones9/status/1852791505108513057
Only time I remember seeing him was when he was literally bawling to the ref. Plenty of outstanding England players today. Maro not even in my top 5.
