The Silver Fern

@dogmeat said in NZ All Time XI:

That guy Sobers looks pretty good.

Buggered back and can't bowl fast? No problem - just switch to world-class left-arm spin....

@booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

Firstly @Crazy-Horse

Tough to be judged in retrospect but you just gots to wait for the fat chick to sing.

Secondly, I gave up too. Twice.

First, when I first turned it on and we were 85 for 5.

Second when they were chasing at (about) 120 for 4 needing less than 8 rpo.

Cricket is good huh?

Even shits and giggles cricket.

Random thunks:

Son of Sledge went well huh? Up to 140 clicks too. Good batting, coupla wickets, good fielding. Worth perservering with. me likes Ish Santner and Ish bowling together is a good combo in T20, despite @MN5 's expert opinion Braces was good too

Santner bowled ok. My criticism of him is mainly round his credentials in the longest form of the game.

@crazy-horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

Raval is a shit house catcher. Every time I watch the Craps he seems to drop one.

He started off in the slips before being banished to the outfield.

I've looked into some of it further.

On the scheduling. I'm disappointed Plunket Shield is reduced to 8 rounds, but NZC this year have an NZ A tour away to UAE to play Pakistan and also have an incoming tour by India A. That is 5 extra FC games (plus plenty of whiteball games) for the fringe players.

I'm not sure if one is a financial trade-off for the other.

NZC contract the domestic player for 7 months. Whether they play 8 rounds or 10 rounds is fairly irrelevant, although there would be operational costs in hosting those 6 matches.

I've looked at the rest of the domestic calendar. There are the same number of rounds of List A and T20, so no other comp has expanded at the expense of the other. So it can only be a financial rather than playing reason.

On the financial side. The annual report is due out in a few weeks so probably not worth getting stuck into that yet. Looking at last years report they made a $10m loss and explained they have a squeeze for a few years until 2023

White said NZC faced a "challenging couple of years" but explained the loss was largely due to the International Cricket Council's new financial model. In the eight years till 2023, NZC's slice of ICC funding would increase from US$90m to US$128m but it was a case of less now, more later.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/98666541/nz-cricket-to-declare-93-million-loss-as-it-locks-in-big-indian-broadcast-deal

I hope that a reduced Plunket Shield doesn't get institutionalised before the money starts coming back in.

@rotated said in 26 December 2019 at the MCG:

The article mentions a 3 test series - fantastic - would that mean the New Year's Test in Sydney is on the table?

Solid point! Last Sydney NY test I went to was Aus v SA and it was excellent.

@nzzp said in Cricket - Non NZ:

I'm seriously looking at going to Netherlands Scotland next week in Amsterdam. Could be a really fun day out - any Ferners know anything about the ground, tickets, etc? Genuinely differnet cultural experience

On current form, Scotland could cream the Dutchies.

also, I really want to make a bad dad joke about the Netherlands having flat pitches 🙂

@rapido said in Hesson gooooooone!:

Of the provincial coaches I would put forward Bruce Edgar.

Mark O'Donnell would be another option. Auckland have won titles under him.

@mikedogz said in Cricket Stuff:

https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/02-08-2022/finding-heath-davis?fbclid=IwAR3rH7dNXO3rYVLBJh-piEMY-n1UC-t1RXmlevW5E1H2RpbsSqMTDLOK6xQ

Interesting read, interesting character.

Personally find it a bit sad to read at end of article that he is still personally struggling with his sexuality. If that's not too blunt a way of putting it.

The best part of your post is working out what a Crore is.

Got to love India.

Not quite test cricket but worth recording anyway.

NZ Club Championship decider

Napier Tech Old Boys 113/3 in 18.2 overs
Onslow 108
NTOB win by seven wickets

https://scoring.nzc.nz/livescoring/match5054/scorecard.aspx

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@majorrage said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

@antipodean said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

@majorrage said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

And he's not appealing ... time will tell if this is because he wants to cut his relationship with CA all together to purse other avenues of revenue generation ...

I can't think what. He's been imbued with one talent.

TV and book deals.

And T20 in other competitions e.g. Caribbean.

@mimic said in England vs BCs ODI series:

The problem with Munro is that he hardly ever comes off.

In 42% of his innings in ODI's he is out in the single digits. Averaging 25.85 when you've played ~33% of your innings against Bangas/Windies/Ireland/Zimbabwe is poor..

That's pretty damning when you break it down like that. I think his aura has well and truly gone past his actual ability ( and I'm certainly guilty of talking him up as much as the next man )

Williamson has looked best as an opener in the T20s but that isn't going to happen at the moment as our two best players are Munro and Guptill.

His dismissals have been very un-Williamson like.

@nta I guss this is how Pakistan's senoir side felt

@mn5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan ODI 2:

@no-quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan ODI 2:

Looks like Pakistan should have got some local advice on the weather from @Chris-B before the toss. Rain delays more often benefit the batting team these days given 10 an over for 10 overs is not seen as such a big deal if you have wickets in hand.

That said, awesome hitting from Guppy while Rosco just anchored at the other end which is all that was required.

Ideally we'd get 50 overs in but a very good start to the series. Pakistan an obvious step up, but we've adjusted well and put together a couple of clinical performances.

Our top four in the shorter version of the game is as good as any in the world and gives me massive confidence every time.

Guppy is as good as any opener going around in the short form, Kane and Rosco are world class, and Munro can be damaging when he comes off. Makes for great viewing.

@hydro11 said in Black Caps vs Pakistan Series:

@nzzp said in Black Caps vs Pakistan Series:

@hydro11 said in Black Caps vs Pakistan Series:

Umpires aren't making a call though - they are just going with whatever the fielder says.

Really? I think they are making calls.

Turning back to the cricket -- do you think it was a clean catch? I do - would have no major issues if a BC batsmen was given.

also, getting hands under the ball apparently seems optional right now. Ish,a nd then CDG dropping them 😞

I can't remember an umpire give a controversial catch not out in the past few years.

I think we're flogging a dead horse, but I would like to say I don't think this fully carried. TMO got it right - and really no objection to the onfield call.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22354670/morgan-understands-maxwell-reprieve

Interesting a hit from a batsman struck the roof at etihad, Voges caught it off the roof and the batsman was given out.

Would've thought it'd be ruled dead ball, similar to laws goveening overhead hanging branches.

Technology vs traditions

Yeah rereading my first post I made my point very poorly. Its the killing of a game after a poor first innings that I was trying to work around, although as he been noted often a poor first innings can just mean that the pitch has more life in it than expected.

@mimic said in Black Caps vs Windies Series:

@antipodean said in Black Caps vs Windies Series:

@virgil said in Black Caps vs Windies Series:

Not too mention a new clause stating any catches taken in a reckless manner wont count.

That's best element. No need for special zones.

meh.. sounds like an insurance company looking for any reason not to pay out

Precisely.

@snowy Australia's just Seppo-Lite. World Series Cricket - hullo? Just want domestic comps the rest of the world don't play in so they can be 'Masters of the Universe'.