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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Podcast: The Shortball with Scotty Stevenson and Mils Muliaina. Season 3, episode 1

    Those All Blacks training camps during the SR season sound like a really bad idea. It could seriously affect teams' season.

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    @stargazer From the podcast:

    Apparently there will be three of them, and players will need to attend two. Players involved will not be available to train with their super rugby teams until the captain's run, if their game is in NZ. If they are supposed to tour South Africa, then they will not be available at all.

    Super Rugby coaches are not happy ...

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      Mils and Stevenson both confident about the Blues. Well, I certainly hope that's justified.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        If it helps the ABs play better than 2017, i am all for it.

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        @mariner4life said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

        If it helps the ABs play better than 2017, i am all for it.

        They played better in 2016 than in 2017 without training camps during the SR season.

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          I'd like to hear more specifics but it's obvious that Sumo being well sourced has heard of Super Rugby coaches bitching about these camps.

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            If it seriously disrupts team preparation for the NZ derby games, then that will really cheapen the competition.

            Apparently they haven't done this since 2007.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @mariner4life said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

              If it helps the ABs play better than 2017, i am all for it.

              They played better in 2016 than in 2017 without training camps during the SR season.

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              @stargazer said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

              @mariner4life said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

              If it helps the ABs play better than 2017, i am all for it.

              They played better in 2016 than in 2017 without training camps during the SR season.

              your sentence is meaningless as a reply to mine.

              I am hardly the best person to argue about the impacts of this thought, given i didn't even remember who won the comp last year, and i have zero faith in the Chiefs even making the playoffs.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @stargazer said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                @mariner4life said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                If it helps the ABs play better than 2017, i am all for it.

                They played better in 2016 than in 2017 without training camps during the SR season.

                your sentence is meaningless as a reply to mine.

                I am hardly the best person to argue about the impacts of this thought, given i didn't even remember who won the comp last year, and i have zero faith in the Chiefs even making the playoffs.

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                @mariner4life said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                @stargazer said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                @mariner4life said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                If it helps the ABs play better than 2017, i am all for it.

                They played better in 2016 than in 2017 without training camps during the SR season.

                your sentence is meaningless as a reply to mine.

                I am hardly the best person to argue about the impacts of this thought, given i didn't even remember who won the comp last year, and i have zero faith in the Chiefs even making the playoffs.

                This is such a 'MN5' post Mariner....

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @stargazer said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                  @mariner4life said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                  If it helps the ABs play better than 2017, i am all for it.

                  They played better in 2016 than in 2017 without training camps during the SR season.

                  your sentence is meaningless as a reply to mine.

                  I am hardly the best person to argue about the impacts of this thought, given i didn't even remember who won the comp last year, and i have zero faith in the Chiefs even making the playoffs.

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                  @mariner4life said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                  @stargazer said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                  @mariner4life said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                  If it helps the ABs play better than 2017, i am all for it.

                  They played better in 2016 than in 2017 without training camps during the SR season.

                  your sentence is meaningless as a reply to mine.

                  I am hardly the best person to argue about the impacts of this thought, given i didn't even remember who won the comp last year, and i have zero faith in the Chiefs even making the playoffs.

                  Not surprising. Actually there was no Super Rugby tournament last year.

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                    Podcasts: The Shortball with Scotty Stevenson and Mils Muliaina.

                    Season 3 - Episode 2 - Concurrent sevens tournaments are a must
                    Scotty and Mils settle into 2018 and talk all things rugby directly into your ears. Are Super Rugby coaches about to finally stand up to the long arm of the All Blacks management? Whatever the case, the boys show them some much deserved love. Discussion is had on the benefits and the drawbacks of hosting concurrent tournaments for the womens and mens sevens, and just how to make it work for everyone.

                    Season 3 - Episode 3 - Hamilton’s big weekend
                    Scotty's ventured to Pyeongchang for three weeks so the mic's been passed to James McOnie for the mean time on The Short Ball. Mils and James chat about the Hamilton Sevens, a bonus for the Black Ferns, and what does the Westmere housing market have to do with footy?

                    Season 3 - Episode 4 - Is the Blues tens victory a sign of things to come?
                    Scotty is still in PyeongChang so once again James McOnie joins Mils at the mic. They talk to Bundee Aki about the Irish rugby atmosphere, how the Blues are shaping up as a potential team to beat this super rugby season, and who does James think could be the first 'hybrid' All Black?

                    Season 3 - Episode 5 - The start of super rugby shows South Africa’s speeding up.
                    James and Mils hit your ears again this week while Scotty's away in South Korea. But we won't let Sumo get away that easily, he joins the pod over the phone with a mouth full of kimchi to discuss the Blues lineup for their clash against the Highlanders and some of the winter olympiucs action. Plus, what has Fergie, of Black Eyed Peas fame, done now?

                    Season 3 - Episode 6 - It’s time for refs to punish ALL head contact
                    Sumo's back, baby. And dives right back into the rugby world with Mils as they navigate the tricky waters of whether or not refs should be penalising more accidental head contact. Plus, will the Blues ever get out of their slump to become a winning team?

                    Season 3 - Episode 7 - Is rugby getting too soft? We ask a veteran referee
                    Scotty and Mils talk to Bryce Lawrence, the manager of New Zealand's rugby referees about dangerous tackles, how the New Zealand referees are faring in Super Rugby so far, and ask the age old question: Is rugby getting too soft?

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                      Podcasts: The Shortball with Scotty Stevenson and Mils Muliaina.

                      Season 3 - Episode 8 - The Crusaders caught in the eye of a fiery Hurricanes side
                      This week Mils and Scotty discuss one giant Stormer, a pricey pair of ripped jeans, and would Mils punch Aaron Smith?

                      Season 3 - Episode 9 - The best rugby player in the world right now is…
                      Mils and Scotty join you again in the podcast studio to talk Highlanders spirit, Hurricances power, and find out who the boys think is the best rugby player in the world.

                      Season 3 - Episode 10 - How young is too young for a player to sign a contract?
                      Scotty Stevenson is joined by Simon Porter, CEO of CSM, New Zealand's largest sports agency. In a rare feat for the Short Ball, the boys get serious and discuss the ethics of scouting young players and how local clubs are able to compete against the money giants of the northern hemisphere.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        Podcasts: The Shortball with Scotty Stevenson and Mils Muliaina.

                        Season 3 - Episode 8 - The Crusaders caught in the eye of a fiery Hurricanes side
                        This week Mils and Scotty discuss one giant Stormer, a pricey pair of ripped jeans, and would Mils punch Aaron Smith?

                        Season 3 - Episode 9 - The best rugby player in the world right now is…
                        Mils and Scotty join you again in the podcast studio to talk Highlanders spirit, Hurricances power, and find out who the boys think is the best rugby player in the world.

                        Season 3 - Episode 10 - How young is too young for a player to sign a contract?
                        Scotty Stevenson is joined by Simon Porter, CEO of CSM, New Zealand's largest sports agency. In a rare feat for the Short Ball, the boys get serious and discuss the ethics of scouting young players and how local clubs are able to compete against the money giants of the northern hemisphere.

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                        @stargazer said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                        Season 3 - Episode 10 - How young is too young for a player to sign a contract?
                        Scotty Stevenson is joined by Simon Porter, CEO of CSM, New Zealand's largest sports agency. In a rare feat for the Short Ball, the boys get serious and discuss the ethics of scouting young players and how local clubs are able to compete against the money giants of the northern hemisphere.

                        Interesting point about the very low pay ($25k to $30k) in the NPC. Might be time to rationalise and reduce the number of teams.

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                          https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/981299389560860674

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                            Shortball podcast was quite interesting again this week.

                            NZRU scientist/statistician discussing penalty lineout drive v kicking for goal statistics etc.

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                              Shortball podcast was quite interesting again this week.

                              NZRU scientist/statistician discussing penalty lineout drive v kicking for goal statistics etc.

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                              @rapido Analysis was undercut by only considering the subsequent play. Taking a 5m lineout often results in an attacking scrum or multiple penalties.

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                                @rapido Analysis was undercut by only considering the subsequent play. Taking a 5m lineout often results in an attacking scrum or multiple penalties.

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                                @tim said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                                @rapido Analysis was undercut by only considering the subsequent play. Taking a 5m lineout often results in an attacking scrum or multiple penalties.

                                Interesting. May have to listen, because I'm firmly in the 'take the three' camp. Just get the points, get the ball back, and go down and do it all again.

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                                  I've just started my own pod on GAGR. Very Aussie-focused obviously, but some may find it interesting.

                                  https://soundcloud.com/green-and-gold-rugby/crash-ball-eo1

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                                  • barbarianB barbarian

                                    I've just started my own pod on GAGR. Very Aussie-focused obviously, but some may find it interesting.

                                    https://soundcloud.com/green-and-gold-rugby/crash-ball-eo1

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                                    @barbarian said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                                    I've just started my own pod on GAGR. Very Aussie-focused obviously, but some may find it interesting.

                                    https://soundcloud.com/green-and-gold-rugby/crash-ball-eo1

                                    I listened to this today. Nice job!

                                    How long do you think you can keep Alan Jones on as producer?

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                                      @barbarian said in Quality Rugby Podcast/Panel:

                                      I've just started my own pod on GAGR. Very Aussie-focused obviously, but some may find it interesting.

                                      https://soundcloud.com/green-and-gold-rugby/crash-ball-eo1

                                      I listened to this today. Nice job!

                                      How long do you think you can keep Alan Jones on as producer?

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                                      @milk Thanks! I think he'll be there until I get a threatening letter from the 2GB legal department...

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                                        Season 3 - Episode 11 - Blues’ blues and Lorde’s super rugby influence
                                        While Mils is partying in Hong Kong at the Sevens, James McOnie joins Scotty to talk what the Blues can learn from the Chiefs, the place of maths in rugby, and The Smiths make James' heart soar.

                                        Season 3 - Episode 12 - Which Aussie team is the best?
                                        Mils is back from Hong Kong this week and joins Scotty to talk Israel Folau, Tomás Lavanini, how the Sharks have figured out how to beat any kiwi team, and Mils the oracle gives you his winning picks for upcoming super rugby clashes.

                                        Season 3 - Episode 13 - Folau is creating a divide within the sport
                                        This week join Scotty, Mils, and special guest James McOnie as they get real about the impact of Israel Folau's statements, talk about the losing streak Australian teams are on against our own, and give a special shout out to the Highlanders' forwards.

                                        Season 3 - Episode 14 - It’s time for a New Zealand women’s Super Rugby tournament
                                        Scotty is alone in the studio today while Mils is at home in Invercargill, instead he is joined by recently rugby retired Dan Bowden, New Zealand Black Fern fullback Selica Winiata, and Australian commentator Andrew Swain over the phone.

                                        Season 3 - Episode 15 - New Zealand Rugby needs more dancing
                                        Scotty and Mils are reunited to talk the week in super rugby. Joined by Alice the Short Ball Producer, listen in as they chat about the Blues, the Jaguares, a savoury donut, and a cow that peed on a bar.

                                        Season 3 - Episode 16 - Who’s the most important returning player, Sonny Bill or TJ Perenara?
                                        Mils and Scotty are here again this week to talk about the Highlander's poor performance last weekend, Scotty comes to terms with being another year older, the boys show their support for Hurricanes winger Ben Lam, and discuss the Aussie super rugby sides with Jay Staunton.

                                        Season 3 - Episode 17 - The ABs selection will be announced on Sunday morning, so who’s taking number 8?
                                        Scotty and Mils are joined by Niall Williams all the way from Canada to discuss their huge win over Australia, the boys also talk to Stephen Hoiles about his recent comment that Aussie rugby needs to get 'better at cheating', and there's a KFC bet placed on producer Alice's All Blacks' picks.

                                        Season 3 - Episode 18 - Black Ferns’ contracts a step in the right direction
                                        Scotty, Mils, and producer Alice are joined by Aaron Lloyd to talk about the laws of rugby, before the boys get on the phone with Hannah Porter to celebrate the recent Black Ferns' contracts, and Mils the oracle gives his thoughts on the big clash this weekend between the Crusaders and the Hurricanes.

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                                        This last one is interesting. The interview with Lloyd goes through the judiciairy process, and also discusses the Moody and Franks cases. Especially, what he says about Franks and Parsons is interesting .... (from 12' 20'')

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                                          Not sure where else to post this. I haven't watched it yet, so can't comment on it.

                                          https://twitter.com/PrimeVideo/status/1002671133563543553

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