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Wallabies v Pumas, Perth

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    @MN5 said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    @Bones said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

    Haaaa yeah Giteau, some fucken player....who wouldn't make anyones list of top players ever.

    It's all relative. About the only good thing about Bernard Foley is you can nickname him Axel.

    Ummm, sure it's relative. In relation to almost any other international top 12 of his era, Giteau was cake.

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    @Bones

    I assumed he was quite good but I did drink a lot while watching test rugby while he was playing, speaking of which he'll never have to buy a drink in Scotland again after his kicking efforts in 2009. What a glorious match that was.

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      Did the Pumas collect a few injuries in Hamilton? They lost Creevy and Leguizamon early in the second half which doesn't help

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        Did the Pumas collect a few injuries in Hamilton? They lost Creevy and Leguizamon early in the second half which doesn't help

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        Australian rugby writer Jim Tucker for the Courier-Mail was among those to heap praise on the Wallabies.
        "Seven players flying into a fracas to stand up for Israel Folau is the feisty sign that the Wallabies can become winning road warriors even without David Pocock," Tucker wrote.
        "When Folau refused to give up the ball to the Pumas when hustled over the sideline in the 16th minute, he was quickly set upon three-to-one.
        "Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Pocock and Samu Kerevi were the first to join the congo line of wrestling, shoving and jersey-grabbing before more cavalry in gold arrived."
        Former skipper Michael Hooper backed that attitude.
        "We've had a lot of heat and some tough results this year and we want to stick up for each other in those situations," Hooper said.
        "It was really pleasing to see everyone want to be a part of it and especially for someone like Izzy."
        No-one was sin-binned in an unsightly incident that featured plenty of pushing and shoving.
        Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          Australian rugby writer Jim Tucker for the Courier-Mail was among those to heap praise on the Wallabies.
          "Seven players flying into a fracas to stand up for Israel Folau is the feisty sign that the Wallabies can become winning road warriors even without David Pocock," Tucker wrote.
          "When Folau refused to give up the ball to the Pumas when hustled over the sideline in the 16th minute, he was quickly set upon three-to-one.
          "Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Pocock and Samu Kerevi were the first to join the congo line of wrestling, shoving and jersey-grabbing before more cavalry in gold arrived."
          Former skipper Michael Hooper backed that attitude.
          "We've had a lot of heat and some tough results this year and we want to stick up for each other in those situations," Hooper said.
          "It was really pleasing to see everyone want to be a part of it and especially for someone like Izzy."
          No-one was sin-binned in an unsightly incident that featured plenty of pushing and shoving.
          Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

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          @taniwharugby said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

          Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

          I'll just leave this here.

          http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/most_yellow_cards.html?id=1;type=class

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            That's an interesting list - assume it hasn't been updated with all the weekend's games as it still lists Cooper having 5.

            Still, a card every 10 Tests is pretty back from an inside back. You'd kind of expect the list to be populated entirely with back rowers and the odd lock. Check out Jamie Cudmore: 6 yellows in 42 Tests (38 starts).

            Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.

            Also it says "The count for yellow cards is for single yellows for a player. Two yellow cards in a match are recorded as one red card."

            Does anyone know if the red cards in the list (Bortolami, Kolelishvili, Hines, Koyamaibole) were double-yellows or straight red?

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              @taniwharugby said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

              Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

              I'll just leave this here.

              http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/most_yellow_cards.html?id=1;type=class

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              @nzzp said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

              @taniwharugby said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

              Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

              I'll just leave this here.

              http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/most_yellow_cards.html?id=1;type=class

              Of course that list would read a lot differently if New Zealand did not control world rugby to the extent that it does.

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              • NTAN NTA

                That's an interesting list - assume it hasn't been updated with all the weekend's games as it still lists Cooper having 5.

                Still, a card every 10 Tests is pretty back from an inside back. You'd kind of expect the list to be populated entirely with back rowers and the odd lock. Check out Jamie Cudmore: 6 yellows in 42 Tests (38 starts).

                Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.

                Also it says "The count for yellow cards is for single yellows for a player. Two yellow cards in a match are recorded as one red card."

                Does anyone know if the red cards in the list (Bortolami, Kolelishvili, Hines, Koyamaibole) were double-yellows or straight red?

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                @NTA said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

                Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.

                Habana has always been strong on the 'attempted intercept'. i'd wager a couple were for times when it wasn't that much of an attempt. he's also one of those players (fitzpatrick or read for us) who will happily attempt to kill the ball in a ruck if hard-pressed on defence to save a try. i'm kinda happy he has the yellow card record before he gets the try-scoring one.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  Australian rugby writer Jim Tucker for the Courier-Mail was among those to heap praise on the Wallabies.
                  "Seven players flying into a fracas to stand up for Israel Folau is the feisty sign that the Wallabies can become winning road warriors even without David Pocock," Tucker wrote.
                  "When Folau refused to give up the ball to the Pumas when hustled over the sideline in the 16th minute, he was quickly set upon three-to-one.
                  "Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Pocock and Samu Kerevi were the first to join the congo line of wrestling, shoving and jersey-grabbing before more cavalry in gold arrived."
                  Former skipper Michael Hooper backed that attitude.
                  "We've had a lot of heat and some tough results this year and we want to stick up for each other in those situations," Hooper said.
                  "It was really pleasing to see everyone want to be a part of it and especially for someone like Izzy."
                  No-one was sin-binned in an unsightly incident that featured plenty of pushing and shoving.
                  Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

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                  @taniwharugby said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

                  Australian rugby writer Jim Tucker for the Courier-Mail was among those to heap praise on the Wallabies.
                  "Seven players flying into a fracas to stand up for Israel Folau is the feisty sign that the Wallabies can become winning road warriors even without David Pocock," Tucker wrote.
                  "When Folau refused to give up the ball to the Pumas when hustled over the sideline in the 16th minute, he was quickly set upon three-to-one.
                  "Quade Cooper, Will Genia, Pocock and Samu Kerevi were the first to join the congo line of wrestling, shoving and jersey-grabbing before more cavalry in gold arrived."
                  Former skipper Michael Hooper backed that attitude.
                  "We've had a lot of heat and some tough results this year and we want to stick up for each other in those situations," Hooper said.
                  "It was really pleasing to see everyone want to be a part of it and especially for someone like Izzy."
                  No-one was sin-binned in an unsightly incident that featured plenty of pushing and shoving.
                  Later, Cooper picked up the sixth yellow card of his test career for a no-arms tackle during the match. He is now just one shy of the world record. Hooper has five yellow cards in his career. Wallabies prop Scott Sio was sin-binned in Perth for tackling a player without the ball.

                  Something about that leaves me uncomfortable.

                  Kind of ... umm ... like ... is that all you've got Cheik? He's uncomfortably confrontational.

                  I've said before though it's good to have a loon back in international coaching 🙂 He'll never let a perceived slight slide.

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                    Is that a piss take? I only read the bolded bit earlier. Stick up for your teammate that is committing a professional foul? Izzy set upon three-to-one? Ummm it was three guys trying to get the fucking ball off him. Very surprised Izzy wasn't sent to the bin for that, very cynical play in his own 22.

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      That's an interesting list - assume it hasn't been updated with all the weekend's games as it still lists Cooper having 5.

                      Still, a card every 10 Tests is pretty back from an inside back. You'd kind of expect the list to be populated entirely with back rowers and the odd lock. Check out Jamie Cudmore: 6 yellows in 42 Tests (38 starts).

                      Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.

                      Also it says "The count for yellow cards is for single yellows for a player. Two yellow cards in a match are recorded as one red card."

                      Does anyone know if the red cards in the list (Bortolami, Kolelishvili, Hines, Koyamaibole) were double-yellows or straight red?

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                      @NTA said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

                      That's an interesting list - assume it hasn't been updated with all the weekend's games as it still lists Cooper having 5.

                      Still, a card every 10 Tests is pretty back from an inside back. You'd kind of expect the list to be populated entirely with back rowers and the odd lock. Check out Jamie Cudmore: 6 yellows in 42 Tests (38 starts).

                      Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.

                      Also it says "The count for yellow cards is for single yellows for a player. Two yellow cards in a match are recorded as one red card."

                      Does anyone know if the red cards in the list (Bortolami, Kolelishvili, Hines, Koyamaibole) were double-yellows or straight red?

                      Good old Jamie Cudmore. What's not to like about a hot headed Canuck who eavesdrops on opposition forward huddles, get's sent off frequently and who makes his own wine with crazy labels ?

                      He should be every Rugby fans favourite player by far.....

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                        @NTA said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

                        That's an interesting list - assume it hasn't been updated with all the weekend's games as it still lists Cooper having 5.

                        Still, a card every 10 Tests is pretty back from an inside back. You'd kind of expect the list to be populated entirely with back rowers and the odd lock. Check out Jamie Cudmore: 6 yellows in 42 Tests (38 starts).

                        Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.

                        Also it says "The count for yellow cards is for single yellows for a player. Two yellow cards in a match are recorded as one red card."

                        Does anyone know if the red cards in the list (Bortolami, Kolelishvili, Hines, Koyamaibole) were double-yellows or straight red?

                        Good old Jamie Cudmore. What's not to like about a hot headed Canuck who eavesdrops on opposition forward huddles, get's sent off frequently and who makes his own wine with crazy labels ?

                        He should be every Rugby fans favourite player by far.....

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                        @MN5 said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

                        @NTA said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

                        That's an interesting list - assume it hasn't been updated with all the weekend's games as it still lists Cooper having 5.

                        Still, a card every 10 Tests is pretty back from an inside back. You'd kind of expect the list to be populated entirely with back rowers and the odd lock. Check out Jamie Cudmore: 6 yellows in 42 Tests (38 starts).

                        Habana, being a winger, might cop a few for being last-ditch defence and conceding cards in the red zone.

                        Also it says "The count for yellow cards is for single yellows for a player. Two yellow cards in a match are recorded as one red card."

                        Does anyone know if the red cards in the list (Bortolami, Kolelishvili, Hines, Koyamaibole) were double-yellows or straight red?

                        Good old Jamie Cudmore. What's not to like about a hot headed Canuck who eavesdrops on opposition forward huddles, get's sent off frequently and who makes his own wine with crazy labels ?

                        He should be every Rugby fans favourite player by far.....

                        The best part is his nickname is "Cuddles"

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                          Another thing that hasn't really been pointed out: attendance was a bit over 16k in a ground that holds 20,500

                          Bit of a worry for the ARU, who have put in a shitload of resources to save a badly flagging franchise

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                            Another thing that hasn't really been pointed out: attendance was a bit over 16k in a ground that holds 20,500

                            Bit of a worry for the ARU, who have put in a shitload of resources to save a badly flagging franchise

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                            @NTA was there anything else happening over west that weekend?

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                              Not that I'm aware of. Definitely no AFL finals. And of course, no NRL. Those are usually the two biggies.

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                              • NTAN NTA

                                Another thing that hasn't really been pointed out: attendance was a bit over 16k in a ground that holds 20,500

                                Bit of a worry for the ARU, who have put in a shitload of resources to save a badly flagging franchise

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                                @NTA said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

                                Another thing that hasn't really been pointed out: attendance was a bit over 16k in a ground that holds 20,500

                                Bit of a worry for the ARU, who have put in a shitload of resources to save a badly flagging franchise

                                A mate of mine lives in Perth and was offered a free ticket but turned it down.

                                I find his lack of faith in Australian and Argentinian Rugby disturbing.

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                                  I noticed that for the NZ Argies match in Waikato it wasn't sold out either.

                                  Pretty surprised at that.

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                                    Maybe it had something to do with the Hog Worries being poor during the Super season.

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                                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                      I noticed that for the NZ Argies match in Waikato it wasn't sold out either.

                                      Pretty surprised at that.

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                                      @MajorRage said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

                                      I noticed that for the NZ Argies match in Waikato it wasn't sold out either.

                                      Pretty surprised at that.

                                      I'm pretty certain The AB game was sold out, and pretty early on

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                                        @MajorRage said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:

                                        I noticed that for the NZ Argies match in Waikato it wasn't sold out either.

                                        Pretty surprised at that.

                                        I'm pretty certain The AB game was sold out, and pretty early on

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                                        @nzzp Yep, I'm sure only Greenzone (standing) tickets were available in the week before the test.

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                                          I thought it was quite widely reported it was sold out

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