Wallabies v Pumas, Perth
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Scott Fardy really has fallen out of a favour. I thought Mumm was a little better last week. Certainly helped the lineout.
I suspect we will see Slipper come on a bit earlier this week. His impact has been good despite overall poorish team performances. Solid in the scrum but offers higher workrate at the ruck.
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At the risk of causing an international incident, I thought Genia/Quade was very good in parts last week. Genia once was world's best and Cooper is a world class attacker.
Foley is decidedly makeshift, but injuries mean that to this casual observer the cupboard is bare.
I well remember that this is the country that produced the best 12 I've seen, Horan (although Nonu has claims) and one of the most electrifying 13s, Michael O'Connor, and such lesser greats as Herbert and Little, who made the likes of Michael Hawker look top grade. Indeed, that 1977 Aussie School team had one of the most extraordinary collections of talent ever seen -- see above and add Ella brothers and Wally Lewis!!
Surely there are some unheralded stars lurking in the backwater? N.B. Gym bunnies need not apply.
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At the risk of causing an international incident, I thought Genia/Quade was very good in parts last week. Genia once was world's best and Cooper is a world class attacker.
Foley is decidedly makeshift, but injuries mean that to this casual observer the cupboard is bare.
I well remember that this is the country that produced the best 12 I've seen, Horan (although Nonu has claims) and one of the most electrifying 13s, Michael O'Connor, and such lesser greats as Herbert and Little, who made the likes of Michael Hawker look top grade. Indeed, that 1977 Aussie School team had one of the most extraordinary collections of talent ever seen -- see above and add Ella brothers and Wally Lewis!!
Surely there are some unheralded stars lurking in the backwater? N.B. Gym bunnies need not apply.
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To be fair Morlock was a massive throrn in our side and I did think about adding to Herbert/Little. Giteau to me more like Hawker. Very good, but looked better than his was because of the talent around him.
@pakman said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
To be fair Morlock was a massive throrn in our side and I did think about adding to Herbert/Little. Giteau to me more like Hawker. Very good, but looked better than his was because of the talent around him.
I liked Mortlock cos he was such a hard running fucker and seemed like a niceish joker when interviewed.
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@pakman said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
To be fair Morlock was a massive throrn in our side and I did think about adding to Herbert/Little. Giteau to me more like Hawker. Very good, but looked better than his was because of the talent around him.
I liked Mortlock cos he was such a hard running fucker and seemed like a niceish joker when interviewed.
@MN5 said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
@pakman said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
To be fair Morlock was a massive throrn in our side and I did think about adding to Herbert/Little. Giteau to me more like Hawker. Very good, but looked better than his was because of the talent around him.
I liked Mortlock cos
he was such a hard running fucker and seemed like a niceish joker when interviewedbloke with muscles.Fixed.
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@MN5 said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
@pakman said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
To be fair Morlock was a massive throrn in our side and I did think about adding to Herbert/Little. Giteau to me more like Hawker. Very good, but looked better than his was because of the talent around him.
I liked Mortlock cos
he was such a hard running fucker and seemed like a niceish joker when interviewedbloke with muscles.Fixed.
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Giteau? Ha! That is one bloke who the more he doesn't play the higher he gets rated. What has he ever done to be rated so highly?
He was a key player for one of the worst eras in Wallaby history. Buggered off overseas and is bought back as some sort of saviour. -
Giteau? Ha! That is one bloke who the more he doesn't play the higher he gets rated. What has he ever done to be rated so highly?
He was a key player for one of the worst eras in Wallaby history. Buggered off overseas and is bought back as some sort of saviour.@pukunui he was a decent 2nd 5, rubbish 1st 5 and probably should've been used more at halfback.
I can't recall any test vs the ABs where he played that well. I do recall him playing well against NH opponents though.
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Change the record Abdul, you've been trying to get me with the same lame digs since about 2006
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Can't see the Wallabies winning this one if the Pumas play with same style and intent has last week.
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Can't see the Wallabies winning this one if the Pumas play with same style and intent has last week.
@Wreck-Diver said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
Can't see the Wallabies winning this one if the Pumas play with same style and intent has last week.
I think the Wallabies will go into the game feeling superior in the pecking order , and are far less likely to have that deer in the headlights look about them like they do against us .
I guess im saying I suspect the current Wallabies to be a bit of a downhill type side .
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At the risk of causing an international incident, I thought Genia/Quade was very good in parts last week. Genia once was world's best and Cooper is a world class attacker.
Foley is decidedly makeshift, but injuries mean that to this casual observer the cupboard is bare.
I well remember that this is the country that produced the best 12 I've seen, Horan (although Nonu has claims) and one of the most electrifying 13s, Michael O'Connor, and such lesser greats as Herbert and Little, who made the likes of Michael Hawker look top grade. Indeed, that 1977 Aussie School team had one of the most extraordinary collections of talent ever seen -- see above and add Ella brothers and Wally Lewis!!
Surely there are some unheralded stars lurking in the backwater? N.B. Gym bunnies need not apply.
@pakman said in Wallabies v Pumas, Perth:
Cooper is a world class attacker.Not to rehash the whole Cooper thing, but what world class defensive patterns has he had success against? I would think this is a prerequisite to being labelled world class himself?
Both Cooper and Foley are far from ideal in the 10 slot, I can only hope there are some 10 options that grew up watching Carter or Steyn rather than the dross the Wallabies have been turning out the past 10 years.
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Not really going to matter if the forwards can't win decent ball, and the halfback can't get it to them quick enough.
As for "world class defensive patterns" - you mean the ABs? Yeah based on that assumption everyone but the AB flyhalf is shit based on the fact the AB flyhalf never gets to play the ABs. What a conundrum! :thinking:
Look, its easy to take shots from an ebony tower, and you frequently do. But please, justify putting Carter and Steyn in the same bracket, if you're talking about Morne Steyn.
