Aussie Pro Rugby
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@sparky said in Aussie Rugby in general:
And Brad Thorn & Michael Jones.
Don't forget Keven Mealamu and pretty much every player with a Pacific Island background. Seems Folau is just not a good person.
@Sneakdefreak I'd say more likely not too smart...dunno if mentioned already, but after his last comments, apparently he had something about social media written into his contract....?
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@Sneakdefreak I'd say more likely not too smart...dunno if mentioned already, but after his last comments, apparently he had something about social media written into his contract....?
@taniwharugby It was mentioned by ozzie media that he had that in his contract, I hope so and I hope RA have the guts to ditch him.
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@taniwharugby It was mentioned by ozzie media that he had that in his contract, I hope so and I hope RA have the guts to ditch him.
@Machpants and isn't Izzy a liar if he'd agreed to those media conditions in his contract? Did he never intend to honour that agreement? Not that I actually know the nuts and bolts of it. But when has lack of details, knowledge or experience ever stopped fern commentary!
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@taniwharugby It was mentioned by ozzie media that he had that in his contract, I hope so and I hope RA have the guts to ditch him.
@Machpants it'll play right into his hands (more those of his agent) as he seeks a return to league.
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Folau's social media posts are clearly in breech of Rugby Australia and World Rugby's codes of conduct. A fine or a ban is entirely appropriate.
His tone is dreadful and his attitude lacks sympathy and empathy. How are young players who gay going to feel after learning that someone who they might look up to writes drivel like that? Very good player, but it is really sad that he feels the need to keep making public statements that are arrogant, unhelpful and unkind.
@sparky said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Folau's social media posts are clearly in breech of Rugby Australia and World Rugby's codes of conduct. A fine or a ban is entirely appropriate.
His tone is dreadful and his attitude lacks sympathy and empathy. How are young players who gay going to feel after learning that someone who they might look up to writes drivel like that? Very good player, but it is really sad that he feels the need to keep making public statements that are arrogant, unhelpful and unkind.
Don't disagree with that, but again he's not just going after gay players, he's targeting the lifestyles of pretty much every young player in the game. Basically live a pious life like him or go to hell. The ARU knew he had those beliefs and if they didn't they certainly knew when he "outed" himself 12 months ago and then resigned him for 4 years. If the ARU thinks those beliefs are beyond the pale and should never be made public then they should never have resigned him. But like their equally hypocritical main sponsor Qantas, they put performance over principle.
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@Machpants it'll play right into his hands (more those of his agent) as he seeks a return to league.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Machpants it'll play right into his hands (more those of his agent) as he seeks a return to league.
Don't think the NRL wants him.
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@Machpants it'll play right into his hands (more those of his agent) as he seeks a return to league.
@NTA yeah thats what it sounds like, he wants out...if not back to NRL, back to AFL?
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@sparky said in Aussie Rugby in general:
And Brad Thorn & Michael Jones.
Don't forget Keven Mealamu and pretty much every player with a Pacific Island background. Seems Folau is just not a good person.
@Sneakdefreak said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@sparky said in Aussie Rugby in general:
And Brad Thorn & Michael Jones.
Don't forget Keven Mealamu and pretty much every player with a Pacific Island background. Seems Folau is just not a good person.
They're all religious, but are they also virulently anti-gay? I think a distinction needs to be made there, i.e. being religious doesn't automatically mean you share the same demented views as Folau. The Catholics for example would riot if they tried to ban alcohol and there are plenty of religious people who support gay rights.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Machpants it'll play right into his hands (more those of his agent) as he seeks a return to league.
Don't think the NRL wants him.
@Sneakdefreak said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Machpants it'll play right into his hands (more those of his agent) as he seeks a return to league.
Don't think the NRL wants him.
The NRL would fuck it's own mum and sell the video if they could make money or column inches out of it
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@Sneakdefreak said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Machpants it'll play right into his hands (more those of his agent) as he seeks a return to league.
Don't think the NRL wants him.
The NRL would fuck it's own mum and sell the video if they could make money or column inches out of it
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Sneakdefreak said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Machpants it'll play right into his hands (more those of his agent) as he seeks a return to league.
Don't think the NRL wants him.
The NRL would fuck it's own mum and sell the video if they could make money or column inches out of it
Nah, they pretty much said no to Folau last year. The NRL has always taken a strong stance against homophobia since Ian Roberts came out (while still playing the game) in the 1990s.
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
Me neither, it's a public service when these sorts of people identify themselves as bigots. Not comfortable with restricting free speech at all, even stupid drivel like this.
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/her sexual orientation or gender identity (and/or with coming out of the closet).
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/her sexual orientation or gender identity (and/or with coming out of the closet).
@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/here sexual orientation or gender identity.
He made similar comments 12 months ago and didn't retract them so what difference does it make now? Tbh I think young PI kids in that situation have more important things to worry about than what Folau says.
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have to assume Maria shares similar views as him, has she aired these?
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have to assume Maria shares similar views as him, has she aired these?
@taniwharugby said in Aussie Rugby in general:
have to assume Maria shares similar views as him, has she aired these?
Certainly has.
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@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/her sexual orientation or gender identity (and/or with coming out of the closet).
@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/her sexual orientation or gender identity (and/or with coming out of the closet).
I'm not, no. However if Joe Karam had come out and said something similar when I was younger I would have thought the same thing.
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Folau's social media posts are clearly in breech of Rugby Australia and World Rugby's codes of conduct. A fine or a ban is entirely appropriate.
His tone is dreadful and his attitude lacks sympathy and empathy. How are young players who gay going to feel after learning that someone who they might look up to writes drivel like that? Very good player, but it is really sad that he feels the need to keep making public statements that are arrogant, unhelpful and unkind.
@sparky said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Folau's social media posts are clearly in breech of Rugby Australia and World Rugby's codes of conduct.
Are they clearly? While we can clearly extrapolate his beliefs I'm not sure they in themselves are prima facie a breach of any reasonable code of conduct.
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@Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I kinda don't get it. I couldn't give two shits where Folau thinks I'm going after I die.
That's probably because you're not a vulnerable young (PI) boy/girl from a Christian family, who sees Folau as a role model, and struggles with his/her sexual orientation or gender identity (and/or with coming out of the closet).
I'm not, no. However if Joe Karam had come out and said something similar when I was younger I would have thought the same thing.
@Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'm not, no. However if Joe Karam had come out and said something similar when I was younger I would have thought the same thing.
I grew up while Michael Jones was a top All Black, I did not feel like a sinner for playing rugby on Sundays.
edit: This is obviously a facetious statement but I think we do minorities of all types (including young homosexuals) by trying to ostracize our society into a place where there is absolutely no ignorant or prejudiced opinions. They should not be welcomed or celebrated, but trying to run every person out of town who has an opinion that is one standard deviation outside the mainstream.
I think you also do minorities a disservice thinking that they can't tolerate someone holding (misguided) opinions and values they may not share.
