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  • chimoausC chimoaus

    @antipodean Thanks for the legislation however I think you may misunderstand me. Simply sitting in the drivers seat in a parked vehicle does not give Police the power to breath test.
    The key wording in B is attempting to put vehicle in motion. Being slumped over the wheel of a parked car does not satisfy B. You can’t be trying to put a vehicle in motion if you are asleep or passed out.
    My example given is what Police use to get reasonable grounds to satisfy A.
    For them to breath test they must have had reasonble grounds to suspect he had been driving the car.

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    @chimoaus don't know about NSW, but I wouldn't bet on getting away with being drunkenly slumped over the steering wheel in Qld. Surely NSW is similar?

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    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

      @chimoaus don't know about NSW, but I wouldn't bet on getting away with being drunkenly slumped over the steering wheel in Qld. Surely NSW is similar?

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      #1385

      @Crazy-Horse said in Aussie Rugby in general:

      @chimoaus don't know about NSW, but I wouldn't bet on getting away with being drunkenly slumped over the steering wheel in Qld. Surely NSW is similar?

      I’m not saying you get away with it, I am saying Police need evidence to prove driver. It is possible I had a fight with the missus, drove my car to the nearest car park, stopped the car. Drunk a bottle of whiskey, threw the bottle away and fell asleep behind the wheel. At no point did I drive intoxicated or try and put the vehicle in motion.

      Police always need evidence to put before a magistrate, simply being slumped over the wheel drunk is not enough. There always other factors that help Police form reasonable grounds and that is what they are trained to look for.

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      • chimoausC chimoaus

        @Crazy-Horse said in Aussie Rugby in general:

        @chimoaus don't know about NSW, but I wouldn't bet on getting away with being drunkenly slumped over the steering wheel in Qld. Surely NSW is similar?

        I’m not saying you get away with it, I am saying Police need evidence to prove driver. It is possible I had a fight with the missus, drove my car to the nearest car park, stopped the car. Drunk a bottle of whiskey, threw the bottle away and fell asleep behind the wheel. At no point did I drive intoxicated or try and put the vehicle in motion.

        Police always need evidence to put before a magistrate, simply being slumped over the wheel drunk is not enough. There always other factors that help Police form reasonable grounds and that is what they are trained to look for.

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        @chimoaus in Qld at least, don't know about NSW, there is an offence of being in charge of a motor vehicle will over the limit. Don't have to prove someone has been driving, merely have to prove they are in charge. Even having car keys on you and not actually being in the car while pissed could be interpreted as being in charge under some circumstances. Being pissed, slumped over the steering wheel is enough. The car keys don't necessarily have to be in the ignition either.

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          @chimoaus in Qld at least, don't know about NSW, there is an offence of being in charge of a motor vehicle will over the limit. Don't have to prove someone has been driving, merely have to prove they are in charge. Even having car keys on you and not actually being in the car while pissed could be interpreted as being in charge under some circumstances. Being pissed, slumped over the steering wheel is enough. The car keys don't necessarily have to be in the ignition either.

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          @Crazy-Horse So don’t sleep drunk in your car in QLD by the sounds. There is no “In Charge” wording in NSW Legislation as far as I know.

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            #1388

            George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a blight on the game.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a blight on the game.

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              @ACT-Crusader Sub McCaw for Smith and the rest of the world outside NZ for you - lol.

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a blight on the game.

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                @ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a plight on the game.

                Marshall '03.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a blight on the game.

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                  George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a plight on the game.

                  And a blight.

                  Had a cloak of invisibility ...

                  But seriously: George Smith was a legend as he was the only player ever throughout McCaw's career that in any one given year (can't remember which one, fairly early) who I would have picked in a World XV in front of him.

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                  • chimoausC chimoaus

                    @antipodean Thanks for the legislation however I think you may misunderstand me. Simply sitting in the drivers seat in a parked vehicle does not give Police the power to breath test.
                    The key wording in B is attempting to put vehicle in motion. Being slumped over the wheel of a parked car does not satisfy B. You can’t be trying to put a vehicle in motion if you are asleep or passed out.
                    My example given is what Police use to get reasonable grounds to satisfy A.
                    For them to breath test they must have had reasonble grounds to suspect he had been driving the car.

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                    #1392

                    @chimoaus said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                    @antipodean Thanks for the legislation however I think you may misunderstand me. Simply sitting in the drivers seat in a parked vehicle does not give Police the power to breath test.
                    The key wording in B is attempting to put vehicle in motion. Being slumped over the wheel of a parked car does not satisfy B. You can’t be trying to put a vehicle in motion if you are asleep or passed out.
                    My example given is what Police use to get reasonable grounds to satisfy A.
                    For them to breath test they must have had reasonble grounds to suspect he had been driving the car.

                    You can be if you're found to have the keys in the ignition. particularly if you're stationary at a set of lights. That satisfies the law.

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                        George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a plight on the game.

                        And a blight.

                        Had a cloak of invisibility ...

                        But seriously: George Smith was a legend as he was the only player ever throughout McCaw's career that in any one given year (can't remember which one, fairly early) who I would have picked in a World XV in front of him.

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                        @booboo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                        @ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                        George Smith was a cheat. Referees turned a blind eye to his breakdown cheating. It was a plight on the game.

                        And a blight.

                        Had a cloak of invisibility ...

                        But seriously: George Smith was a legend as he was the only player ever throughout McCaw's career that in any one given year (can't remember which one, fairly early) who I would have picked in a World XV in front of him.

                        Blight indeed.

                        In seriousness, Smith was a phenomenal player. Different type of player to McCaw but yet they were both exceptional over the ball.

                        @booboo I found a place for George in my World XV, it was when OZ moved him to 8 when they made the mistake to play him and Waugh 😀

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                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/theyre-the-national-team-they-shouldnt-even-be-in-the-comp-wallabies-great-calls-for-jaguares-to-be-booted-from-super-rugby/

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                            https://twitter.com/rugbycomau/status/1133136520464850944

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                              antipodean
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                              I think what people are slowly coming around to recognising is that the Brumbies are playing better with a balanced backrow. I wonder if Chieka will take note.

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                I think what people are slowly coming around to recognising is that the Brumbies are playing better with a balanced backrow. I wonder if Chieka will take note.

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                                @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                I think what people are slowly coming around to recognising is that the Brumbies are playing better with a balanced backrow. I wonder if Chieka will take note.

                                Yeah he's well known for taking new ideas on board

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                                • M Machpants

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                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/theyre-the-national-team-they-shouldnt-even-be-in-the-comp-wallabies-great-calls-for-jaguares-to-be-booted-from-super-rugby/

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                                  @Machpants could kick the worst Aussie team and give Argies another team, that'll water them down!

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                                    #1400

                                    Wallaby World Cup jerseys released.

                                    Basically the reverse template of the Boks jersey

                                    https://twitter.com/qantaswallabies/status/1133534181584064512

                                    Looks like they've gone the indigenous design for the away jersey.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      Wallaby World Cup jerseys released.

                                      Basically the reverse template of the Boks jersey

                                      https://twitter.com/qantaswallabies/status/1133534181584064512

                                      Looks like they've gone the indigenous design for the away jersey.

                                      alt text

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                      Wallaby World Cup jerseys released.

                                      Basically the reverse template of the Boks jersey

                                      https://twitter.com/qantaswallabies/status/1133534181584064512

                                      Wonder how many hours did they spent photoshopping Fellaw out of the original concept image..

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                                        The faux collar crap never looks good

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                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/113093163/wallabies-coach-michael-cheika-has-big-lock-will-skelton-in-his-sights

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