Aussie Pro Rugby
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Heard Gordon Bray extolling the virtues of St Josephs in Sydney. Their a,b and c grade sides went through the whole season unbeaten.
This not good. Must be some shoddy other teams in these grades and one school having ALL the talent can't be a good thing.
@Siam said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Heard Gordon Bray extolling the virtues of St Josephs in Sydney. Their a,b and c grade sides went through the whole season unbeaten.
This not good. Must be some shoddy other teams in these grades and one school having ALL the talent can't be a good thing.
This is not entirely true.
Sydney private school sports is very weird. There is no single competition across Sydney for schoolboy rugby.
The teams play in different competitions/school associations with roughly half a dozen schools in each - GPS, CAS, ISA etc.
So when Bray says St Joseph's went undefeated - it is only against the other 5 teams in their association (GPS) - now admittedly their 6 team competition/association (GPS) is the strongest but it's still not the full picture.
There are some inter-competition/association games between these competitions/associations at the start of the year before they divide into their separate competitions/associations - I know St Joseph's 1st XV lost to one of the CAS schools at the start of this year.
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@Siam said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Heard Gordon Bray extolling the virtues of St Josephs in Sydney. Their a,b and c grade sides went through the whole season unbeaten.
This not good. Must be some shoddy other teams in these grades and one school having ALL the talent can't be a good thing.
This is not entirely true.
Sydney private school sports is very weird. There is no single competition across Sydney for schoolboy rugby.
The teams play in different competitions/school associations with roughly half a dozen schools in each - GPS, CAS, ISA etc.
So when Bray says St Joseph's went undefeated - it is only against the other 5 teams in their association (GPS) - now admittedly their 6 team competition/association (GPS) is the strongest but it's still not the full picture.
There are some inter-competition/association games between these competitions/associations at the start of the year before they divide into their separate competitions/associations - I know St Joseph's 1st XV lost to one of the CAS schools at the start of this year.
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@Siam said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Heard Gordon Bray extolling the virtues of St Josephs in Sydney. Their a,b and c grade sides went through the whole season unbeaten.
This not good. Must be some shoddy other teams in these grades and one school having ALL the talent can't be a good thing.
This is not entirely true.
Sydney private school sports is very weird. There is no single competition across Sydney for schoolboy rugby.
The teams play in different competitions/school associations with roughly half a dozen schools in each - GPS, CAS, ISA etc.
So when Bray says St Joseph's went undefeated - it is only against the other 5 teams in their association (GPS) - now admittedly their 6 team competition/association (GPS) is the strongest but it's still not the full picture.
There are some inter-competition/association games between these competitions/associations at the start of the year before they divide into their separate competitions/associations - I know St Joseph's 1st XV lost to one of the CAS schools at the start of this year.
@KiwiMurph cool, thanks for the clarification
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@KiwiMurph they don't like inter comp games because the public schools occasionally thrash them
Sydney schools Rugby is a fucking joke.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@KiwiMurph they don't like inter comp games because the public schools occasionally thrash them
Sydney schools Rugby is a fucking joke.
It's weird that there are so few games between the different comps. No idea why GPS and TAS in Brisbane can't play each other more often or even Sydney schools versus Brisbane schools. Such a ridiculous closed shop. I don't read the Courier Mail any more but apparently they're heavily promoting GPS schools rugby. That's nice for old boys and the parents who can afford to pay 20k plus a year to send their boys to those schools.
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Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
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Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
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@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
The only bright light in Aussie Rugby right now is our U20 program and expansion of women's rugby. Neither of which have guaranteed long-term prospects given the back office is a basket case.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
The only bright light in Aussie Rugby right now is our U20 program and expansion of women's rugby. Neither of which have guaranteed long-term prospects given the back office is a basket case.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
The only bright light in Aussie Rugby right now is our U20 program and expansion of women's rugby. Neither of which have guaranteed long-term prospects given the back office is a basket case.
Kafe has managed to teflon his way out of this, as everyone forgot he had an actual job.
Justin Harrison speaks pretty well for a dude i though was a deadshit. He was pretty much spot on yesterday. The whole thing needs to be broken down, from school up. Looking at the Wallaby coaching structure is titanic deckchairs stuff
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
The only bright light in Aussie Rugby right now is our U20 program and expansion of women's rugby. Neither of which have guaranteed long-term prospects given the back office is a basket case.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
The only bright light in Aussie Rugby right now is our U20 program and expansion of women's rugby. Neither of which have guaranteed long-term prospects given the back office is a basket case.
Kafe has managed to teflon his way out of this, as everyone forgot he had an actual job.
Justin Harrison speaks pretty well for a dude i though was a deadshit. He was pretty much spot on yesterday. The whole thing needs to be broken down, from school up. Looking at the Wallaby coaching structure is titanic deckchairs stuff
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Justin Harrison speaks pretty well for a dude i though was a deadshit. He was pretty much spot on yesterday. The whole thing needs to be broken down, from school up. Looking at the Wallaby coaching structure is titanic deckchairs stuff
Googy is a pretty smart guy (for a second rower with a coke problem
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
What is Pat Howard up to now?
@Duluth said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
What is Pat Howard up to now?
I think after he fucked up cricket high performance his name is mud in these parts.
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@Duluth said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
What is Pat Howard up to now?
I think after he fucked up cricket high performance his name is mud in these parts.
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@NTA Yup sounds like just the man the ARU will turn to
I'm still hoping for Alan Jones to get involved
@Duluth said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA Yup sounds like just the man the ARU will turn to
I'm still hoping for Alan Jones to get involved
that's just mean
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@NTA Yup sounds like just the man the ARU will turn to
I'm still hoping for Alan Jones to get involved
@Duluth said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA Yup sounds like just the man the ARU will turn to
I'm still hoping for Alan Jones to get involved
Nah, Hammett's the guy. Let's end it with a quick and
glorious
noble dignified satisfactory .... look just an end, yeah? -
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
The only bright light in Aussie Rugby right now is our U20 program and expansion of women's rugby. Neither of which have guaranteed long-term prospects given the back office is a basket case.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
He's simply angling for a better job. His mate Kearns is doing the same:
Kearns added that he would accept an invitation to be involved in the review.
“I’d be involved in the review absolutely.The author is having a lend calling Kafer a "respected rugby voice". Any credibility he had disappeared years ago.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
He's simply angling for a better job. His mate Kearns is doing the same:
Kearns added that he would accept an invitation to be involved in the review.
“I’d be involved in the review absolutely.The author is having a lend calling Kafer a "respected rugby voice". Any credibility he had disappeared years ago.
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
He's simply angling for a better job. His mate Kearns is doing the same:
Kearns added that he would accept an invitation to be involved in the review.
“I’d be involved in the review absolutely.The author is having a lend calling Kafer a "respected rugby voice". Any credibility he had disappeared years ago.
Its Christy Doran. Pretty sure he knows fuck all about rugby. FoxSports Rugby is his first real job after 4 internships and a Master's Degree.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
He's simply angling for a better job. His mate Kearns is doing the same:
Kearns added that he would accept an invitation to be involved in the review.
“I’d be involved in the review absolutely.The author is having a lend calling Kafer a "respected rugby voice". Any credibility he had disappeared years ago.
Its Christy Doran. Pretty sure he knows fuck all about rugby. FoxSports Rugby is his first real job after 4 internships and a Master's Degree.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@JC said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Not fishing, just interested to know, what is his part in all this?
He was brought on board to oversee selections and make sure Cheika wasn't going off on a tangent (mission: failed). At the same time, he became a selector. Apparently.
Just another example of rugby's failures here: lack of desire to look the problem in the face.
yea, pretty much this. Not sure how you can conduct a review of a system you were in the middle of.
It gets better:
One of Australian rugby’s most respected voices, Rod Kafer, believes Michael Cheika shouldn’t be the only person held accountable for the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarter-final exit and that sweeping changes to the Rugby Australia board must be made.
The same Rod Kafer who was appointed to a senior position developing elite coaches but has delivered precisely jack shit.
He's simply angling for a better job. His mate Kearns is doing the same:
Kearns added that he would accept an invitation to be involved in the review.
“I’d be involved in the review absolutely.The author is having a lend calling Kafer a "respected rugby voice". Any credibility he had disappeared years ago.
Its Christy Doran. Pretty sure he knows fuck all about rugby. FoxSports Rugby is his first real job after 4 internships and a Master's Degree.
wait, Christy is a dude?
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Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Did i hear that the "independent" review in to the Aussie performance is being conducted by Scott Johnson? Director of Rugby, part of the problem Scott Johnson?
Hahahahaha he’s a turd that it seems to be impossible to flush. How the mulleted fuckwit is still considered the rugby version of Yoda by some people is a mystery .
He’d be the first person I’d sack after last weekends game .
