Aussie Pro Rugby
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I think there are problems in Australia rugby, but the blame for poor results at the top should sit primarily with Cheika. His Wallabies have consistently been worse than the sum of their parts. Poor strategy, weird selections and what appears to be a very unhealthy culture are all his fault.
Throw him out and things will probably improve by themselves.
@Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
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Throw him out and things will probably improve by themselves.Yes, but they'll just return to a level of adequacy.
How does it actually improve for the longer term? To the point where a Bledisloe win is not only possible, but realistic?
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@Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
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Throw him out and things will probably improve by themselves.Yes, but they'll just return to a level of adequacy.
How does it actually improve for the longer term? To the point where a Bledisloe win is not only possible, but realistic?
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
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Throw him out and things will probably improve by themselves.Yes, but they'll just return to a level of adequacy.
How does it actually improve for the longer term? To the point where a Bledisloe win is not only possible, but realistic?
You probably won't ever dominate the Bledisloe, but yeah a return to the mean of winning 33% or so against us, with the odd short period of dominance would be a worthy goal.
In my opinion the Cheika lead era has underperformed due to poor strategy and selections. The Wallabies generated enough good ball against England to score more than one try - they just had no penetration when they should have.
Surely White, Toomua and JOC should have started on Saturday at 9, 10 and 13. Not Genia, Lilo and a 19 year old freshie.
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More crap journalism from stuff, missing the first, clear, and obvious choice of Hammett
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@jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I think John Mitchell would be great fit for the wallabies
Misread the name initially. Thought you had said John Plumtree who I actually rate highly. He did a great job at the Sharks before they shafted him. But he may be too nice a guy to survive 4 years in Aussie rugby politics....
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@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor
Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.
"Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor
Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.
"Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation
It really does need a reset. The guys coming back from the U20 tourney in Georgia were staggered. Zero organisation (they got there and had no balls, cones or other training gear...) and rampant factionalism (is that a word?) from the Super franchises back home WRT "their" players and how they were used.
I don't know how you turn it around.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor
Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.
"Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation
It really does need a reset. The guys coming back from the U20 tourney in Georgia were staggered. Zero organisation (they got there and had no balls, cones or other training gear...) and rampant factionalism (is that a word?) from the Super franchises back home WRT "their" players and how they were used.
I don't know how you turn it around.
@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor
Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.
"Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation
It really does need a reset. The guys coming back from the U20 tourney in Georgia were staggered. Zero organisation (they got there and had no balls, cones or other training gear...) and rampant factionalism (is that a word?) from the Super franchises back home WRT "their" players and how they were used.
I don't know how you turn it around.
I have - on multiple occasions via social media - offered my services as Benevolent-Dictator-For-Life for the paltry sum of $200k per annum plus expenses.
Waiting to hear back.
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@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor
Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.
"Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation
It really does need a reset. The guys coming back from the U20 tourney in Georgia were staggered. Zero organisation (they got there and had no balls, cones or other training gear...) and rampant factionalism (is that a word?) from the Super franchises back home WRT "their" players and how they were used.
I don't know how you turn it around.
I have - on multiple occasions via social media - offered my services as Benevolent-Dictator-For-Life for the paltry sum of $200k per annum plus expenses.
Waiting to hear back.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:
@voodoo said in Aussie Rugby in general:
I'll be gutted if they Joseph or Razor
Both of those guys would laugh in our faces.
"Sort out your back office" would be first request and the last conversation
It really does need a reset. The guys coming back from the U20 tourney in Georgia were staggered. Zero organisation (they got there and had no balls, cones or other training gear...) and rampant factionalism (is that a word?) from the Super franchises back home WRT "their" players and how they were used.
I don't know how you turn it around.
I have - on multiple occasions via social media - offered my services as Benevolent-Dictator-For-Life for the paltry sum of $200k per annum plus expenses.
Waiting to hear back.
If it helps, I'd pay an annual subscription to assist with this.
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He’s got a point and the obvious guy to take charge of the wallabies is Scott Johnson.
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He’s got a point and the obvious guy to take charge of the wallabies is Scott Johnson.
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@Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby in general:
Rugby fossil Alan Jones said the same, but I didn't hear him suggest who they could be.
Because there is fucking NOBODY.
So many cockheads in Aussie Rugby think they've got the answer, but press them on the details and its usually "Well club rugby produced RWC-winning Wallabies" or "The NRC is a waste of money" or "Nothing wrong with 3 separate schools competitions in Sydney alone because {insert speaker's school] is doing fine!"
I keep hearing good things are in the pipeline but there's no evidence. I told our Suburban comp a decade ago that their competition structure worked for the top 2 divisions but strangled everyone else, and even sent them a three page summary of suggestions. Only now are they doing something about it after one top division team forfeited three grades + colts from mid-season.
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The Simpsons always delivers
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Christy Doran again:
Don’t worry about Michael Cheika, Quade, it’s time to look in the mirror
Quade, let’s talk.
You were a marvellous player and could do things that many could only dream of doing on the rugby field.
You brought the Reds their maiden — and only Super Rugby — title and left everyone, including your teammates, in awe in 2011.
But that was eight years ago.
Since then, we’ve seen glimpses of your sparkling best.
But only glimpses.
There were positive signs earlier this year for the Rebels, but your season and your club’s season cliff-dived after the heartbreaking two-match tour in South Africa — and that was in March.
Having won three straight matches to start the season, the Rebels won just another four matches from their next nine and those victories came against the Reds and Sunwolves, who finished at the bottom of the Super Rugby standings.
That’s why you didn’t play for the Wallabies in 2019.
Your tweet on Sunday afternoon, where you said that “If he (Cheika) actually cared about Aus rugby he would have done it a while ago …” reeks of a player who didn’t get selected for the World Cup campaign.
After all, it was Cheika who was behind Rugby Australia paying out your deal in Toulon in 2016 to help pave the way for your return to the Reds.
That was after Toulon’s eccentric owner Mourad Boudjellal took you to the cleaners.
“It’s difficult to go from foie gras to pâté,” Boudjellal said, which translated to having Wilkinson as the duck delicacy and Cooper as the standard fare.
“For now, Cooper is not what I was hoping for. But we have to also give him time.
“Right now if I say that I’m not happy with our stars, it’s only because we expect a lot. It’s true that in our imagination, we want them to fly across the pitch.
“We’ve been spoiled somewhat by [Tana] Umaga and then Wilkinson, so maybe we need to give them time…”
It was also Cheika that attempted to broker a deal with the Brumbies and Rebels after your new Reds coach, Brad Thorn, told you that your services weren’t required at the Reds with two years left running on your contract.
Eventually, after a year of earning your healthy pay package by playing club rugby with Souths — which you were totally entitled to do so — you decided to join the Rebels.
After signing in Japan, you thanked the Rebels for welcoming you and “showing (you) nothing but love all season”.
Quade, it’s time to look in the mirror.
You had a falling out with former coach Robbie Deans.
You weren’t welcome at the Reds under Thorn, in part, because of the carry on you had with his former teammate and All Blacks legend Richie McCaw when you were at the peak of your powers in 2010 and 2011.
But mainly because Thorn thought the Reds needed a complete culture overhaul and he didn’t think Cooper would buy into his new regime.
You ran your own race when Richard Graham was coach of the Reds.
Now, you’ve thrown barbs at Cheika just minutes after the outgoing Wallabies coach said he wouldn’t seek reappointment.
The common denominator here is you.
Interestingly, one Wallaby, who wished not to be named, contacted foxsports.com.au in the moments after your tweet to voice his concerns.
He later referred to you as a “cancer” within the side.
The other reason you weren’t selected for this year’s World Cup was because of your attitude and the possibility of being a disruptive force within the group.
As England’s Eddie Jones said after announcing his World Cup squad, there’s more to a team than just those who take the field.
“At World Cups I pick one to 15 first, then I pick numbers 28-31,” Jones said at his own England World Cup squad announcement.
“They are your absolute keys.
“They are possibly not going to have much gametime so the character and behaviour of those guys is super important.
“Then you try to pick a blend from 16-27.
“So there is a process I follow.”
That was shown four years ago.
Don’t trust me?
The Kendrick Lamar music in the background to the highlights reel you posted on Instagram following your only appearance at the World Cup campaign against Uruguay in 2015 said it all.
“I got a bone to pick,” says Lamar.
“I don’t want you monkey-mouth mother******* sittin’ in my throne again.”
Interestingly, the yellow card you copped for another high tackle early in that match wasn’t included in that highlights package.
While the Wallabies crashed out at the quarter-final stages of the World Cup against England on Saturday, the vast majority of the playing group were with Cheika until the end.
There were testing times in 2018 when a fracture was caused within the playing group when Sefa Naivalu was sent home after vomiting on the team bus after a big night.
The fracture was tested again during last year’s Spring Tour.
It was reopened during the sorry end of Israel Folau’s playing chapter with the Wallabies earlier in the year.
But the playing group — for better or worse — was with Cheika until the end.
In the 24 hours since Cheika’s announcement, the likes of Drew Mitchell, Matt Giteau and James O’Connor have also expressed their gratitude to the outgoing coach.
Mitchell wrote on his Instagram: “Call me biased of whatever but I’ve had no other coach that I’d die for!! Thank you Cheik.”
O’Connor added: “Just want to send some energy the way of a man who I have a great deal of respect for. When I was looking for an opportunity, you went out of your way to accommodate and provide me with the circumstance for a chance. I want to thank you for that and all you have done for Australian rugby. Hope you find some peace in your retirement”.
Quade, you’re now in the twilight of your playing career.
It’s time to let your sublime vision and unparalleled spiral passes do the talking.
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Forgot that jackass Kearns wanted Castles job .
