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  • jeggaJ jegga

    @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

    @jegga To paraphrase 'I am gutted cos we couldn't australia enough for you fans. The next coach should ozzie even more FTW!'

    You have to marvel at the level of denial and cuntitude that makes Krusty put results in quotation marks.

    We were not good enough to come away with victory and we are all judged by ‘results’ but as we’ve said to each other before inside our dressing room – your worthiness comes from believing in yourself implicitly first, then results will come from that. I have been honoured and proud to serve you all.

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    #1548

    @jegga You get an upvote for introducing me to the word fluffybunnyitude

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      What kind of bullshit is going here? How is it that Castle thinks it's a good idea to not only undermine her coach by inviting players to a gala dinner, without his knowledge, behind is back but then also blame the entire WC failure on someone her employer is currently locked in a legal stoush with??

      Izzy's lawyers will be loving this shit. He wasn't there but is being blamed for the failure...

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        Where has Castle said anything about Folau?

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          https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/raelene-castle-blames-israel-folau-and-legal-battle-wallabies-early-rwc-exit

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            Click bait title "That's never helpful. Of course, it's not." Not helpful is hardly 'blames'. And she 100% has the right to get her employees to fulfil their duties when the 'team leader' is unable to.

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            • M Machpants

              Click bait title "That's never helpful. Of course, it's not." Not helpful is hardly 'blames'. And she 100% has the right to get her employees to fulfil their duties when the 'team leader' is unable to.

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              @Machpants it is to an extent "click bait" but its does not remove the fact that she makes mention of him and it's effect on the team. Thats not what you say when this type of legal situation is playing out. you simply don't comment.

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                If I remember correctly the ARFU ditched Folau thus their CEOs proffered cause of their early exit was entirely of their own making.

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                • HigginsH Higgins

                  If I remember correctly the ARFU ditched Folau thus their CEOs proffered cause of their early exit was entirely of their own making.

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                  @Higgins said in Aussie Rugby:

                  If I remember correctly the ARFU ditched Folau thus their CEOs proffered cause of their early exit was entirely of their own making.

                  Certainly wouldn't have had God on their side.

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                    That article is pretty ridiculous.

                    She was clearly asked in an interview if the Folau saga had an effect on the team. And her answer was correct - it certainly wasn't helpful!

                    But that is a long, long way from blaming him for their demise.

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                    • barbarianB barbarian

                      That article is pretty ridiculous.

                      She was clearly asked in an interview if the Folau saga had an effect on the team. And her answer was correct - it certainly wasn't helpful!

                      But that is a long, long way from blaming him for their demise.

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                      #1557

                      @barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:

                      That article is pretty ridiculous.

                      She was clearly asked in an interview if the Folau saga had an effect on the team. And her answer was correct - it certainly wasn't helpful!

                      But that is a long, long way from blaming him for their demise.

                      That was my take too.

                      In much the same vein the original headline was Phil Waugh UNLOADS on Cheika, except he really just answers a question

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116909051/ra-director-phil-waugh-unhappy-michael-cheika-went-public-on-raelene-castle-fallout

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                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116964795/wallabies-must-go-back-to-the-future-and-bring-back-eddie-jones-as-coach

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                          Nov 6 (Reuters) - Rugby Australia (RA) said on Wednesday it has appointed a panel to review the Wallabies 2019 season, which saw coach Michael Cheika stand down after their World Cup quarter-final defeat to England.

                          The panel will consist of former Australia internationals Pat Howard and Nathan Sharpe, and four-time Olympian Bo Hanson, and will work with RA Director of Rugby Scott Johnson to deliver the review over the next month. It had been tasked with reviewing the entire Wallabies program and World Cup campaign and delivering feedback that will be used for the 2020 international season and future Rugby World Cup and Olympic Games campaigns, RA said.

                          Pat Howard eh?

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                            Nov 6 (Reuters) - Rugby Australia (RA) said on Wednesday it has appointed a panel to review the Wallabies 2019 season, which saw coach Michael Cheika stand down after their World Cup quarter-final defeat to England.

                            The panel will consist of former Australia internationals Pat Howard and Nathan Sharpe, and four-time Olympian Bo Hanson, and will work with RA Director of Rugby Scott Johnson to deliver the review over the next month. It had been tasked with reviewing the entire Wallabies program and World Cup campaign and delivering feedback that will be used for the 2020 international season and future Rugby World Cup and Olympic Games campaigns, RA said.

                            Pat Howard eh?

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                            @Bovidae The same Pat Howard that oversaw Australian cricket's low ebb? The same one Warney called a muppet?

                            Why he seems a perfect announcement from RA.

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              @Bovidae The same Pat Howard that oversaw Australian cricket's low ebb? The same one Warney called a muppet?

                              Why he seems a perfect announcement from RA.

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                              @antipodean Exactly what I was thinking.

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                                @Bovidae The same Pat Howard that oversaw Australian cricket's low ebb? The same one Warney called a muppet?

                                Why he seems a perfect announcement from RA.

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                                @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                                The same Pat Howard that oversaw Australian cricket's low ebb? The same one Warney called a muppet?

                                Why he seems a perfect announcement from RA.

                                Crazy

                                I mentioned his name a couple of weeks ago as a joke

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                                  @NTA and @barbarian and any other Aussie TSF members:

                                  There was a time not so long ago where as a Saffa I was extremely jealous of Australian rugby administration.
                                  With a relatively small base of players, Aussie rugby somehow managed to produce excellent results both in Super Rugby and at international level.
                                  The Brumbies back in their glory days were the epitome of this for me.

                                  What, if anything has changed?

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                                    Scott Johnson is the name I'd be querying most in that line up.

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      Scott Johnson is the name I'd be querying most in that line up.

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                                      @booboo said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      Scott Johnson is the name I'd be querying most in that line up.

                                      I’m still holding out hope he takes over from Krusty .

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                                      • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                        @NTA and @barbarian and any other Aussie TSF members:

                                        There was a time not so long ago where as a Saffa I was extremely jealous of Australian rugby administration.
                                        With a relatively small base of players, Aussie rugby somehow managed to produce excellent results both in Super Rugby and at international level.
                                        The Brumbies back in their glory days were the epitome of this for me.

                                        What, if anything has changed?

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                                        @Billy-Webb said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        @NTA and @barbarian and any other Aussie TSF members:

                                        There was a time not so long ago where as a Saffa I was extremely jealous of Australian rugby administration.
                                        With a relatively small base of players, Aussie rugby somehow managed to produce excellent results both in Super Rugby and at international level.
                                        The Brumbies back in their glory days were the epitome of this for me.

                                        What, if anything has changed?

                                        People who entered into the administrative sphere of Rugby under the auspices of an all-time Wallaby Greats lineup?

                                        Don't honestly know, besides that. Take away onfield performance and everyone in the back office looks like a dickhead, don't they?

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                                        • voodooV voodoo

                                          I worked with him for some time. He is a really good guy. Gets on with everyone, always had time to spend with the juniors. Massive rolodex, can get in front of any CEO in the country (any rugby playing nation I expect). Had a great time with him and clients at the 2011 RWC.

                                          He's certainly not dumb, with no long history in finance he was able to understand different products and communicate with clients. As for being qualified to be a corporate CEO, I'm not sure. Expect he would need a solid team around him, especially around risk and ops functions.

                                          His on-camera persona is a bit at odds with all that I know. I think some of it is caused by genuine passion from a bloke that loved nothing more than competing for his country. And some of it is just a love of winding people up and being a bit controversial.

                                          I'd suggest you take his comments with a grain of salt, they're probably not always reflective of what he is actually thinking.

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                                          @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          I worked with him for some time. He is a really good guy. Gets on with everyone, always had time to spend with the juniors. Massive rolodex, can get in front of any CEO in the country (any rugby playing nation I expect). Had a great time with him and clients at the 2011 RWC.

                                          He's certainly not dumb, with no long history in finance he was able to understand different products and communicate with clients. As for being qualified to be a corporate CEO, I'm not sure. Expect he would need a solid team around him, especially around risk and ops functions.

                                          His on-camera persona is a bit at odds with all that I know. I think some of it is caused by genuine passion from a bloke that loved nothing more than competing for his country. And some of it is just a love of winding people up and being a bit controversial.

                                          I'd suggest you take his comments with a grain of salt, they're probably not always reflective of what he is actually thinking.

                                          I don't have any personal experience with him but I do know this.

                                          In 2017 I was catching up with a good mate in the US. He's a proper Brisbane grammar school boy, died in the wool Wallaby supporter, thinks NZ are cheats etc - standard Aus private school view. Anyway, he was just back from his sisters wedding - she had married a producer at Fox Sports in Oz.

                                          Said that Kearns is a Grade A fluffybunny. Everybody at Fox hates him, has such a massive opinion of himself, and loves to belittle others - no matter how small or large it is.

                                          SEcond hand info, but I have no reason to doubt it and quite the opposite of what you said. Still, could make him a decent CEO tho!

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