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    Optus looking most likely from what i heard, not good for Foxtel though. Optus already have EPL and possibly didnt get as many people taking it up as they expected, however if they get the rugby then thats starting to form a pretty good combo in this market.

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      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/117713193/englands-eddie-jones-reportedly-loses-attack-guru-scott-wisemantel-to-wallabies

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        Good luck to Rennie the Roo, you'll need it to de-cheika-ize that bunch!

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117735625/raelene-castle-apologised-oto-world-rugby-over-wallabies-rugby-world-cup-behaviour

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          Looks like a big bugger eh, anyone seen stats?

          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/outrage-as-11-year-old-boy-is-told-he-is-too-big-to-play-in-new-south-wales-sevens-tournament

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            Tough one - particularly if communication has been attempted but failed for any reason.

            If he's really that big for his age, then his parents and coaches should also have sought advice. How are the other parents supposed to feel if this big unit is out there, monstering their kids?

            It's U12 FFS...

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            • NTAN NTA

              Tough one - particularly if communication has been attempted but failed for any reason.

              If he's really that big for his age, then his parents and coaches should also have sought advice. How are the other parents supposed to feel if this big unit is out there, monstering their kids?

              It's U12 FFS...

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              #1671

              @NTA I'm surprised that that tournament didn't seem to have weight restrictions. Weigh-ins before the start of the tournament would have prevented him from participating and this would never have happened.

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              • NTAN NTA

                Tough one - particularly if communication has been attempted but failed for any reason.

                If he's really that big for his age, then his parents and coaches should also have sought advice. How are the other parents supposed to feel if this big unit is out there, monstering their kids?

                It's U12 FFS...

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                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                Tough one - particularly if communication has been attempted but failed for any reason.

                If he's really that big for his age, then his parents and coaches should also have sought advice. How are the other parents supposed to feel if this big unit is out there, monstering their kids?

                It's U12 FFS...

                I played with and against Dai Young - Wales & BI Lions prop - from U11 .

                He was twice the size of me at that age.

                Taught me how to tackle properly.

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                • M Machpants

                  Good luck to Rennie the Roo, you'll need it to de-cheika-ize that bunch!

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117735625/raelene-castle-apologised-oto-world-rugby-over-wallabies-rugby-world-cup-behaviour

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                  @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                  Good luck to Rennie the Roo, you'll need it to de-cheika-ize that bunch!

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117735625/raelene-castle-apologised-oto-world-rugby-over-wallabies-rugby-world-cup-behaviour

                  No luck needed.

                  Just be better than the bloke before.

                  Not exactly a high bar.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                    Good luck to Rennie the Roo, you'll need it to de-cheika-ize that bunch!

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/117735625/raelene-castle-apologised-oto-world-rugby-over-wallabies-rugby-world-cup-behaviour

                    No luck needed.

                    Just be better than the bloke before.

                    Not exactly a high bar.

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                    @booboo Except the article oints out how many of the team have picked up the Cheika Way of dealing with adversity - being a fluffybunny

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                    • M Machpants

                      @booboo Except the article oints out how many of the team have picked up the Cheika Way of dealing with adversity - being a fluffybunny

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                      @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @booboo Except the article oints out how many of the team have picked up the Cheika Way of dealing with adversity - being a fluffybunny

                      I couldn't see that in the article (without a loose interpretation). However, if so, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I have been harping on for ages about how Cheika's behaviour must rub off on the culture of the team. Losses are always someone else's fault.
                      Worse still, during games how are players expected to push aside debatable decisions and get on with clear heads if they know the coach is thumping the table and swearing away?
                      I think he tried to use an 'us vs them' mentality to their advantage, even actively tried to create one but passion can only go so far.
                      In the past Oz teams have performed best when they get their tails up. Confidence and cockiness then shines through in their play and 'luck' swings their way.
                      I've never seen Oz teams as a backs to the wall, let's come out swinging hard type.

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                        @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @booboo Except the article oints out how many of the team have picked up the Cheika Way of dealing with adversity - being a fluffybunny

                        I couldn't see that in the article (without a loose interpretation). However, if so, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I have been harping on for ages about how Cheika's behaviour must rub off on the culture of the team. Losses are always someone else's fault.
                        Worse still, during games how are players expected to push aside debatable decisions and get on with clear heads if they know the coach is thumping the table and swearing away?
                        I think he tried to use an 'us vs them' mentality to their advantage, even actively tried to create one but passion can only go so far.
                        In the past Oz teams have performed best when they get their tails up. Confidence and cockiness then shines through in their play and 'luck' swings their way.
                        I've never seen Oz teams as a backs to the wall, let's come out swinging hard type.

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                        @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @booboo Except the article oints out how many of the team have picked up the Cheika Way of dealing with adversity - being a fluffybunny

                        I couldn't see that in the article (without a loose interpretation). However, if so, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I have been harping on for ages about how Cheika's behaviour must rub off on the culture of the team. Losses are always someone else's fault.
                        Worse still, during games how are players expected to push aside debatable decisions and get on with clear heads if they know the coach is thumping the table and swearing away?
                        I think he tried to use an 'us vs them' mentality to their advantage, even actively tried to create one but passion can only go so far.
                        In the past Oz teams have performed best when they get their tails up. Confidence and cockiness then shines through in their play and 'luck' swings their way.
                        I've never seen Oz teams as a backs to the wall, let's come out swinging hard type.

                        Agree

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                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                          Tough one - particularly if communication has been attempted but failed for any reason.

                          If he's really that big for his age, then his parents and coaches should also have sought advice. How are the other parents supposed to feel if this big unit is out there, monstering their kids?

                          It's U12 FFS...

                          I played with and against Dai Young - Wales & BI Lions prop - from U11 .

                          He was twice the size of me at that age.

                          Taught me how to tackle properly.

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                          @MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:

                          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                          Tough one - particularly if communication has been attempted but failed for any reason.

                          If he's really that big for his age, then his parents and coaches should also have sought advice. How are the other parents supposed to feel if this big unit is out there, monstering their kids?

                          It's U12 FFS...

                          I played with and against Dai Young - Wales & BI Lions prop - from U11 .

                          He was twice the size of me at that age.

                          Taught me how to tackle properly.

                          Yeah but that was a different time, and you would have played rugby no matter what.

                          These days, particularly in Australia, kids have got about 5 sports clamouring for their attention before rugby.
                          Sure, some of these kids having to come up against man-child are going to relish the chance to smash him for glory.
                          Some are going to get run over, then want to move away from contact sport.

                          For the big unit himself: running over other 11yo kids half his size might be fun, and his parents and coach will delight in having such a natural advantage on the park.

                          But this is a tricky age; in a couple of years when the other kids will catch up to him, and unless he's done a lot of extras, he'll drop away.

                          Happens with a lot of teen superstars: never had to work.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                            @booboo Except the article oints out how many of the team have picked up the Cheika Way of dealing with adversity - being a fluffybunny

                            I couldn't see that in the article (without a loose interpretation). However, if so, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I have been harping on for ages about how Cheika's behaviour must rub off on the culture of the team. Losses are always someone else's fault.
                            Worse still, during games how are players expected to push aside debatable decisions and get on with clear heads if they know the coach is thumping the table and swearing away?
                            I think he tried to use an 'us vs them' mentality to their advantage, even actively tried to create one but passion can only go so far.
                            In the past Oz teams have performed best when they get their tails up. Confidence and cockiness then shines through in their play and 'luck' swings their way.
                            I've never seen Oz teams as a backs to the wall, let's come out swinging hard type.

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                            @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby:

                            Worse still, during games how are players expected to push aside debatable decisions and get on with clear heads if they know the coach is thumping the table and swearing away?

                            There's no evidence they did that any better or worse - particularly during the Wales game where they played poorly but got better in the second half* and failed to execute a couple of things at the end

                            And you're assuming all those players walked into the room as innocent little lambs, and not largely the product of a very narrow, privileged pathway, that blows smoke up their arse every 3 paces from the age of 16.

                            The losses we've experienced are due to a lack of skills development at earlier ages (because of limited real competition), then a development system that pretty much throws away a lot of wheat and keeps a bit of chaff instead of the other way around. Put a layer of rookie pro coaching on top of that, political infighting, and a few other factors unique to the landscape here, and you end up where we are.

                            Of course, it could be better as we showed in Perth. But that was one of those days where everything stuck.

                            *despite that Kerevi decision, which you'll note was not called one other time in the entire RWC, and therefore should probably receive closer examination

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                              #1679

                              In regards to the 11 year old. Sounds like the admins stuffed up because he had been granted a dispensation.

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                                In regards to the 11 year old. Sounds like the admins stuffed up because he had been granted a dispensation.

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                                @mikedogz said in Aussie Rugby:

                                In regards to the 11 year old. Sounds like the admins stuffed up because he had been granted a dispensation.

                                So it must have been complaints on the day...

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                                  #1681

                                  Not in Australia, but similar issue.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/117752770/auckland-rugbys-revises-grading-structure-to-cater-for-kids-of-all-sizes

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                                  • NTAN NTA

                                    @mikedogz said in Aussie Rugby:

                                    In regards to the 11 year old. Sounds like the admins stuffed up because he had been granted a dispensation.

                                    So it must have been complaints on the day...

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                                    @NTA Further reading tells me he is graded for the team above but was allowed to help out that team.

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                                    • mikedogzM mikedogz

                                      @NTA Further reading tells me he is graded for the team above but was allowed to help out that team.

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                                      @mikedogz said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      @NTA Further reading tells me he is graded for the team above but was allowed to help out that team.

                                      The plot thickens

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                                        So he's an 11 year old playing U12s helping out the U11s...

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                                          JUST POLITICS MATE: Local brown-trout fisherman, Jeremy Dunning (37) has today arrived in Sydney with his local solicitor to begin court proceedings against Rugby Australia.

                                          Jeremy claims the Wallabies would have put in a “superior performance” if he had been selected for the 2019 Rugby World Cup in Japan and he could have possibly captained “a trophy-winning Wallabies team” in the future.

                                          Jeremy, who is currently playing prop in the 4th-grade side for the local Betoota Muttaburrasaurus’s, says he “coulda brought back Bill” if not for poor decision-making by ARU executives.

                                          The father-of-six is a prominent social member of our town’s struggling club that plays in the Western Queensland Group 139 competition. He says it’s pretty clear he’s missed out on quite a payday because he never got to play at the level he believes he was capable of playing.

                                          The 150-kilogram Betoota Heights resident claims his career trajectory in rugby union was dashed by ‘fucken politics and other bullshit’ during his briefly promising colts season.

                                          It is believed that the plaintiff has been inspired by former Wallabies player turned CTE case study Israel Folau, who yesterday increased his damages again Rugby Australia by $10 million, according to new court documents.

                                          An amended statement of claim from Folau, released on Wednesday, shows the damages figure has been increased to $14 million from a previous estimate of $10 million.

                                          Folau, like Dunning, has never before captained a side in any three of the domestic Australian football codes.

                                          Other similarities between the two cases include the fact that both men were very bad Christians before they got married, and that both of them own an exorbitantly expensive luxury vehicle that they can’t afford on their current salary.

                                          Speaking to The Betoota Advocate today from his desk at Dunning’s Get ‘Er Dun Plumbing – Jeremy claims that Queensland Reds selectors chose Rodney Blake over him in 2004 because Blake had a cool nickname, and therefore, kept him out of the Super Rugby system. “I’m sorry that Big Jezza doesn’t sound as good as Rodzilla!” he says. “Just fucken politics mate”

                                          https://www.instagram.com/p/B5Y6RbCj3iD/?igshid=937cjv8zvxzp

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