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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @NTA I think theyll start DHP instead of Koroibete - in the June series DHP started and Koro didnt get any game time.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Rugby in general:

    @NTA I think theyll start DHP instead of Koroibete - in the June series DHP started and Koro didnt get any game time.

    DHP was a bit quiet this season from all accounts.

    Not like its going to make any difference.

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    • UniteU Unite

      @Higgins said in Aussie Rugby in general:

      @Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:

      Cheika makes final call on Bledisloe Cup squad

      Wallabies squad for Bledisloe Cup

      OUT: Jermaine Ainsley, Sam Carter, Pek Cowan, Sef Faagase, Richard Hardwick, Campbell Magnay, Taniela Tupou

      The Tongan Thor out, that's interesting.

      An article through the week said he wasn't eligible for the Wallabies until the EOYT?

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      @Unite said in Aussie Rugby in general:

      @Higgins said in Aussie Rugby in general:

      @Stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:

      Cheika makes final call on Bledisloe Cup squad

      Wallabies squad for Bledisloe Cup

      OUT: Jermaine Ainsley, Sam Carter, Pek Cowan, Sef Faagase, Richard Hardwick, Campbell Magnay, Taniela Tupou

      The Tongan Thor out, that's interesting.

      An article through the week said he wasn't eligible for the Wallabies until the EOYT?

      You are right as I think there is a three year standdown from the time boys that are not NZ permanent residents finish secondary school. As the Thor was still playing for Sacred Heart in Auckland in the 2014 season that would make the three year period sometime in late 2017 (depending on when he bailed from school and moved to Aussie). It looks like the ARFU must have a similar requirement to be met.

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        Finished the season with 2 wins. So we're wooden spooners in First and Third Grade, but only second last in Second Grade.

        Played 22 out of a scheduled 42 games
        6 Yellow Cards
        1 Red Card

        Get our $2000 bond back from Suburban Rugby, imposed after the brawl last year that ended our season.

        I went to the pub, ate food, drank scotch & dry, and finally fucking relaxed.

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          Finished the season with 2 wins. So we're wooden spooners in First and Third Grade, but only second last in Second Grade.

          Played 22 out of a scheduled 42 games
          6 Yellow Cards
          1 Red Card

          Get our $2000 bond back from Suburban Rugby, imposed after the brawl last year that ended our season.

          I went to the pub, ate food, drank scotch & dry, and finally fucking relaxed.

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          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

          Finished the season with 2 wins. So we're wooden spooners in First and Third Grade, but only second last in Second Grade.

          Played 22 out of a scheduled 42 games
          6 Yellow Cards
          1 Red Card

          Get our $2000 bond back from Suburban Rugby, imposed after the brawl last year that ended our season.

          I went to the pub, ate food, drank scotch & dry, and finally fucking relaxed.

          Leeeegend

          After all that hopefilly you remember why rugby is awesome ...

          ???

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            @booboo I'd be lying if I said that playing a few games this year was awful. Even when I fronted up for First Grade three times, or played two games back to back at THP, it was still the kind of exhilaration you don't often get* as a 40/41 yo fat bastard who is too unfit to play rugby. Made it to 83 caps for the club this year (52 starts).

            One guy nearly my age played 19 of the 22 games we contested this year.

            Being Club President though... fuck that's a tough gig when you've got a very limited volunteer pool, and playing numbers are going down the shitter, and you're being assaulted on all sides by soccer, Council, and random gibbering idiots writing into the local paper calling for the old head coach back.

            Little victories is all you have. Of the eight clubs in our Division, the same four qualified for finals of all three grades next season, so we're not alone right now.

            One benefit: I get to go to the Division 1 finals day, which apparently is a glorious pissup and seafood spectacular.

            *Nocturnal activities with Mrs TA notwithstanding.

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              http://www.aon.com.au/australia/australian-rugby-union/womens-university-rugby-sevens.jsp

              This new women's rugby 7s tournament has started today in Tasmania. Eight universities, with National Sevens Players bolstering the ranks.

              Macquarie Uni (NSW)
              Griffith Uni (QLD)
              Bond Uni (QLD)
              Uni of Queensland
              Uni of New England (NSW)
              Uni of Tasmania
              Uni of Canberra
              Uni of Adelaide

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                North Sydney Oval packed out today over 20,000 crowd to watch the Shute Shield Final in Sydney. Was also live broadcast on main free to air channel in NSW.

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                  Good game, too

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                    I think I remember this being discussed somewhere (Under 19s player punching the ref), but hadn't seen the video. It showed up in my FB feed today:

                    http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/20609813/maitland-player-banned-10-years-shocking-referee-shove

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                      10 year ban is bullshit on the low side.

                      That is life ban from Rugby and ten years from all other sports

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                      • NTAN NTA

                        10 year ban is bullshit on the low side.

                        That is life ban from Rugby and ten years from all other sports

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                        @NTA it kinda seems so but then...he's an idiot 18 year old. I think because of his age I viewed it as a bit harsh, where if he was 20 I woulda said fuck him off.

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                          I thought 10 years is unnecessarily harsh. 2 would have been sufficient imo.

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                          • DamoD Damo

                            I thought 10 years is unnecessarily harsh. 2 would have been sufficient imo.

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                            @Damo I dunno, I think this is probably a good example. 2 years allows him to come back and rebuild a career...which shouldn't be a possibility.

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                              @Damo I dunno, I think this is probably a good example. 2 years allows him to come back and rebuild a career...which shouldn't be a possibility.

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                              @Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                              @Damo I dunno, I think this is probably a good example. 2 years allows him to come back and rebuild a career...which shouldn't be a possibility.

                              Why shouldn't it be a possibility? Do you believe that nobody is capable of redemption?

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                              • DamoD Damo

                                @Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                @Damo I dunno, I think this is probably a good example. 2 years allows him to come back and rebuild a career...which shouldn't be a possibility.

                                Why shouldn't it be a possibility? Do you believe that nobody is capable of redemption?

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                                @Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.

                                Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.

                                  Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.

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                                  @Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                  @Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.

                                  Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.

                                  I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.

                                  I tend to think that people who assault referees almost always do so because they can't control themselves at that particular moment. Someone in that state is not thinking at all of the consequences of their actions. Even if they were, the difference between a 2 year ban and a 10 year ban is largely immaterial for the offender at that moment. If he gave it a moments thought he wouldn't assault the referee!

                                  I get the outrage, and I'm outraged about the incident too. I just don't think the feeling of outrage need be our master when deciding upon sentence in cases like this.

                                  I appreciate my view is in the extreme minority - I've had a similar debate over this incident elsewhere with no supporters to my view.

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                                  • DamoD Damo

                                    @Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                    @Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.

                                    Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.

                                    I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.

                                    I tend to think that people who assault referees almost always do so because they can't control themselves at that particular moment. Someone in that state is not thinking at all of the consequences of their actions. Even if they were, the difference between a 2 year ban and a 10 year ban is largely immaterial for the offender at that moment. If he gave it a moments thought he wouldn't assault the referee!

                                    I get the outrage, and I'm outraged about the incident too. I just don't think the feeling of outrage need be our master when deciding upon sentence in cases like this.

                                    I appreciate my view is in the extreme minority - I've had a similar debate over this incident elsewhere with no supporters to my view.

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                                    @Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                    @Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                    @Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.

                                    Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.

                                    I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.

                                    I tend to think that people who assault referees almost always do so because they can't control themselves at that particular moment. Someone in that state is not thinking at all of the consequences of their actions. Even if they were, the difference between a 2 year ban and a 10 year ban is largely immaterial for the offender at that moment. If he gave it a moments thought he wouldn't assault the referee!

                                    I get the outrage, and I'm outraged about the incident too. I just don't think the feeling of outrage need be our master when deciding upon sentence in cases like this.

                                    I appreciate my view is in the extreme minority - I've had a similar debate over this incident elsewhere with no supporters to my view.

                                    I'll support you Damo. Makes sense to me.

                                    A ten year ban is effectively ruling him out of the sport anyway.

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                                      nah fuck him.
                                      Ban him for ever. 10 years is good
                                      That little fluffybunny was simply playing out the "I'm the centre of the universe" mentality that has got the world so fucked up

                                      Refs have been sacrosanct in rugby for centuries because of the "no ifs or buts you can't do it" culture that's been handed down.

                                      It's totally the deterent that shapes behaviour.

                                      Finding excuses for him does nothing to address the root cause - the little shit, (like many), feels entitled to lash out on others when he fucked up.

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                                      • DamoD Damo

                                        @Bones said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                        @Damo sure, the only thing there is I reckon it should be known that assault a ref, you're done. If that's drilled into players then that can only be a good thing.

                                        Rather than assault a ref and you risk up to 2 years. Then can come back and start where you left off.

                                        I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.

                                        I tend to think that people who assault referees almost always do so because they can't control themselves at that particular moment. Someone in that state is not thinking at all of the consequences of their actions. Even if they were, the difference between a 2 year ban and a 10 year ban is largely immaterial for the offender at that moment. If he gave it a moments thought he wouldn't assault the referee!

                                        I get the outrage, and I'm outraged about the incident too. I just don't think the feeling of outrage need be our master when deciding upon sentence in cases like this.

                                        I appreciate my view is in the extreme minority - I've had a similar debate over this incident elsewhere with no supporters to my view.

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                                        @Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                        I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.

                                        The good thing is that these assaults are really really rare, and so they make headlines when they do happen. Ironically, the guy who was about to be sent off was in line for a 'best and fairest' award.

                                        There is not always enough thanks for refs, it's a tough job and we don't have a game without it.

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                                          @Damo said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          I don't really buy the argument that banning someone for 10 years has a greater deterrent effect than banning someone for 2 years.

                                          The good thing is that these assaults are really really rare, and so they make headlines when they do happen. Ironically, the guy who was about to be sent off was in line for a 'best and fairest' award.

                                          There is not always enough thanks for refs, it's a tough job and we don't have a game without it.

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                                          @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          Ironically, the guy who was about to be sent off was in line for a 'best and fairest' award.

                                          According to this: http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4907229/maitland-colt-cops-10-years-for-striking-referee/

                                          He'd just elbowed someone after one of his guys got lifted in a tackle and things got a bit heated. So the elbow was a 10-match ban.

                                          Someone was saying he was spotted roughing up a guy the week before, too, but it went unsanctioned.

                                          Best & Fairest was already off the table at that stage.

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