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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    just this morning i was reminded how much of an hill slog rugby has in vic at least

    in the rugby comp we have two comps of 8 clubs, not sure about the "premiership" but in the dewarshief comp and struggle to field three full teams

    one of the guys at work was just explaining there are 5 semi professional (get a match fee) comps in metro melbourne...each with several teams and grades...thee are then 7 amature comps including regional vic....there could be a over a hundred clubs....and loads of those are actually paying guys to play...thats fucking mad

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

    one of the guys at work was just explaining there are 5 semi professional (get a match fee) comps in metro melbourne...each with several teams and grades...thee are then 7 amature comps including regional vic....there could be a over a hundred clubs....and loads of those are actually paying guys to play...thats fucking mad

    That's how Subbies was a few years back here in Sydney - back then you had 5-6 DIvisions, 10 clubs in each, and money at about half of them.

    Since it was made amateur, and with all the other troubles rugby has, we're down to ~5 Divs with 8 clubs each, and that will erode further.

    However, it is worth pointing out that league is hardly on an upward trajectory either.

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      @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

      one of the guys at work was just explaining there are 5 semi professional (get a match fee) comps in metro melbourne...each with several teams and grades...thee are then 7 amature comps including regional vic....there could be a over a hundred clubs....and loads of those are actually paying guys to play...thats fucking mad

      That's how Subbies was a few years back here in Sydney - back then you had 5-6 DIvisions, 10 clubs in each, and money at about half of them.

      Since it was made amateur, and with all the other troubles rugby has, we're down to ~5 Divs with 8 clubs each, and that will erode further.

      However, it is worth pointing out that league is hardly on an upward trajectory either.

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      @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

      @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

      one of the guys at work was just explaining there are 5 semi professional (get a match fee) comps in metro melbourne...each with several teams and grades...thee are then 7 amature comps including regional vic....there could be a over a hundred clubs....and loads of those are actually paying guys to play...thats fucking mad

      That's how Subbies was a few years back here in Sydney - back then you had 5-6 DIvisions, 10 clubs in each, and money at about half of them.

      Since it was made amateur, and with all the other troubles rugby has, we're down to ~5 Divs with 8 clubs each, and that will erode further.

      However, it is worth pointing out that league is hardly on an upward trajectory either.

      Fucking Colleagues 5th Grade never paid me anything, jibbed!!!

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      • voodooV voodoo

        @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

        @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

        one of the guys at work was just explaining there are 5 semi professional (get a match fee) comps in metro melbourne...each with several teams and grades...thee are then 7 amature comps including regional vic....there could be a over a hundred clubs....and loads of those are actually paying guys to play...thats fucking mad

        That's how Subbies was a few years back here in Sydney - back then you had 5-6 DIvisions, 10 clubs in each, and money at about half of them.

        Since it was made amateur, and with all the other troubles rugby has, we're down to ~5 Divs with 8 clubs each, and that will erode further.

        However, it is worth pointing out that league is hardly on an upward trajectory either.

        Fucking Colleagues 5th Grade never paid me anything, jibbed!!!

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        #3433

        @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

        Fucking Colleagues 5th Grade never paid me anything, jibbed!!!

        Your payment was just being allowed to play with "The Blue Giants". Peasant 🙂

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        • P pakman

          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

          @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

          So not great in todays quick gratification society

          Thinking on this further: the number of rugby fans here who pooh-pooh AFL and League as sports are missing the point.

          What can we learn from them? It is pretty fucking clear we need a national competition but there are so many political forces holding that back.

          Premier Rugby in Sydney is one of the major obstacles to itself and the broader game.
          Schools Rugby in NSW is a disjointed, disruptive scourge that basically destroys the continuity of participation here.

          How do you address that when they are powers unto themselves?

          There was that article on the new boss of Sky talking about fan engagement outside the playing field. Rugby completely and utterly lacks anything like that here.

          Club finals are done in Sydney for Premier Rugby. Suburban Rugby finishes on 17/09. Once that happens, Sydney is a rugby-free zone. There will be Bledisloe Tests and that's it.

          That worked back in the day where everyone played cricket in the summer and we all clicked the channel changer over to Channel Nine for a bit of Richie and the crew. Now we need a global, year-round game where things take a break for a few weeks at Christmas before launching into January pre-season excitement.

          I despair.

          https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/09/09/rugby-australia-must-follow-the-afls-lead-to-rejuvenate-the-sport-and-bring-in-the-money/

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          #3434

          @pakman said in Aussie Rugby:

          @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

          @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

          So not great in todays quick gratification society

          Thinking on this further: the number of rugby fans here who pooh-pooh AFL and League as sports are missing the point.

          What can we learn from them? It is pretty fucking clear we need a national competition but there are so many political forces holding that back.

          Premier Rugby in Sydney is one of the major obstacles to itself and the broader game.
          Schools Rugby in NSW is a disjointed, disruptive scourge that basically destroys the continuity of participation here.

          How do you address that when they are powers unto themselves?

          There was that article on the new boss of Sky talking about fan engagement outside the playing field. Rugby completely and utterly lacks anything like that here.

          Club finals are done in Sydney for Premier Rugby. Suburban Rugby finishes on 17/09. Once that happens, Sydney is a rugby-free zone. There will be Bledisloe Tests and that's it.

          That worked back in the day where everyone played cricket in the summer and we all clicked the channel changer over to Channel Nine for a bit of Richie and the crew. Now we need a global, year-round game where things take a break for a few weeks at Christmas before launching into January pre-season excitement.

          I despair.

          https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/09/09/rugby-australia-must-follow-the-afls-lead-to-rejuvenate-the-sport-and-bring-in-the-money/

          damn...went to read it out of curiosity...that page is unreadable, the circled bit is the actual article

          b3d0e7a2-2338-46de-a459-54ed1a70eb21-image.png

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            the AFL has 9 games a weekend across 23 weeks played in every major centre to massive crowds

            throw in more media content, coaching sagas, a draft, and really invested fans, it's worth a fuck ton more than rugby every will be. comparisons in value are pointless.

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @pakman said in Aussie Rugby:

              @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

              @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

              So not great in todays quick gratification society

              Thinking on this further: the number of rugby fans here who pooh-pooh AFL and League as sports are missing the point.

              What can we learn from them? It is pretty fucking clear we need a national competition but there are so many political forces holding that back.

              Premier Rugby in Sydney is one of the major obstacles to itself and the broader game.
              Schools Rugby in NSW is a disjointed, disruptive scourge that basically destroys the continuity of participation here.

              How do you address that when they are powers unto themselves?

              There was that article on the new boss of Sky talking about fan engagement outside the playing field. Rugby completely and utterly lacks anything like that here.

              Club finals are done in Sydney for Premier Rugby. Suburban Rugby finishes on 17/09. Once that happens, Sydney is a rugby-free zone. There will be Bledisloe Tests and that's it.

              That worked back in the day where everyone played cricket in the summer and we all clicked the channel changer over to Channel Nine for a bit of Richie and the crew. Now we need a global, year-round game where things take a break for a few weeks at Christmas before launching into January pre-season excitement.

              I despair.

              https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/09/09/rugby-australia-must-follow-the-afls-lead-to-rejuvenate-the-sport-and-bring-in-the-money/

              damn...went to read it out of curiosity...that page is unreadable, the circled bit is the actual article

              b3d0e7a2-2338-46de-a459-54ed1a70eb21-image.png

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              #3436

              @Kiwiwomble clicking on The Roar is always a terrible mistake.

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @pakman said in Aussie Rugby:

                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                So not great in todays quick gratification society

                Thinking on this further: the number of rugby fans here who pooh-pooh AFL and League as sports are missing the point.

                What can we learn from them? It is pretty fucking clear we need a national competition but there are so many political forces holding that back.

                Premier Rugby in Sydney is one of the major obstacles to itself and the broader game.
                Schools Rugby in NSW is a disjointed, disruptive scourge that basically destroys the continuity of participation here.

                How do you address that when they are powers unto themselves?

                There was that article on the new boss of Sky talking about fan engagement outside the playing field. Rugby completely and utterly lacks anything like that here.

                Club finals are done in Sydney for Premier Rugby. Suburban Rugby finishes on 17/09. Once that happens, Sydney is a rugby-free zone. There will be Bledisloe Tests and that's it.

                That worked back in the day where everyone played cricket in the summer and we all clicked the channel changer over to Channel Nine for a bit of Richie and the crew. Now we need a global, year-round game where things take a break for a few weeks at Christmas before launching into January pre-season excitement.

                I despair.

                https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/09/09/rugby-australia-must-follow-the-afls-lead-to-rejuvenate-the-sport-and-bring-in-the-money/

                damn...went to read it out of curiosity...that page is unreadable, the circled bit is the actual article

                b3d0e7a2-2338-46de-a459-54ed1a70eb21-image.png

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                #3437

                @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Rugby:

                @pakman said in Aussie Rugby:

                @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                So not great in todays quick gratification society

                Thinking on this further: the number of rugby fans here who pooh-pooh AFL and League as sports are missing the point.

                What can we learn from them? It is pretty fucking clear we need a national competition but there are so many political forces holding that back.

                Premier Rugby in Sydney is one of the major obstacles to itself and the broader game.
                Schools Rugby in NSW is a disjointed, disruptive scourge that basically destroys the continuity of participation here.

                How do you address that when they are powers unto themselves?

                There was that article on the new boss of Sky talking about fan engagement outside the playing field. Rugby completely and utterly lacks anything like that here.

                Club finals are done in Sydney for Premier Rugby. Suburban Rugby finishes on 17/09. Once that happens, Sydney is a rugby-free zone. There will be Bledisloe Tests and that's it.

                That worked back in the day where everyone played cricket in the summer and we all clicked the channel changer over to Channel Nine for a bit of Richie and the crew. Now we need a global, year-round game where things take a break for a few weeks at Christmas before launching into January pre-season excitement.

                I despair.

                https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/09/09/rugby-australia-must-follow-the-afls-lead-to-rejuvenate-the-sport-and-bring-in-the-money/

                damn...went to read it out of curiosity...that page is unreadable, the circled bit is the actual article

                b3d0e7a2-2338-46de-a459-54ed1a70eb21-image.png

                Remember, many articles, are just from the crowd. Members of the public. That was one of some random Ozzie's first articles that he has submitted. There are roar gurus, who've posted many articles or forum comments, and roar pros (paid articles). It's pretty rare for me to read anything from a newbie, they have the same weight as a long post on the fern.

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                    @NTA said in Aussie Rugby:

                    Good signing. He played well for BOP and Benetton. Gives Rebels some depth out wide.

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                      #3440

                      https://twitter.com/rugbycomau/status/1571663293588320257

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                        I think RA might be well advised to to ask their previous players and coaches to STFU with the damage they must be doing selling the game to the everyman as one completely unworthy of watching due to the rules. People will quote that shit in conversation and it just cements the position of number four in the code listing..

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/129925210/a-little-pipsqueak-from-paris-exwallabies-coach-alan-jones-blasts-french-ref-in-wider-tirade-on-rugby

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          I think RA might be well advised to to ask their previous players and coaches to STFU with the damage they must be doing selling the game to the everyman as one completely unworthy of watching due to the rules. People will quote that shit in conversation and it just cements the position of number four in the code listing..

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/129925210/a-little-pipsqueak-from-paris-exwallabies-coach-alan-jones-blasts-french-ref-in-wider-tirade-on-rugby

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                          @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby:

                          I think RA might be well advised to to ask their previous players and coaches to STFU with the damage they must be doing selling the game to the everyman as one completely unworthy of watching due to the rules. People will quote that shit in conversation and it just cements the position of number four in the code listing..

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/129925210/a-little-pipsqueak-from-paris-exwallabies-coach-alan-jones-blasts-french-ref-in-wider-tirade-on-rugby

                          Mate when the hit whinge moan they don't care what damage they do to game.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            I think RA might be well advised to to ask their previous players and coaches to STFU with the damage they must be doing selling the game to the everyman as one completely unworthy of watching due to the rules. People will quote that shit in conversation and it just cements the position of number four in the code listing..

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/129925210/a-little-pipsqueak-from-paris-exwallabies-coach-alan-jones-blasts-french-ref-in-wider-tirade-on-rugby

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                            #3443

                            @Crucial this part is pretty funny "“I have little sympathy for someone running down the clock, but by the same token you would hope that the referee would have some feeling for the game.

                            “This isn't the first time a team has been penalised for time-wasting, but it's the first time it has happened at such a crucial time in such an important game.”"

                            The idea being that if the game is on the line (say, when you're leading by a few points with only 90 seconds left on the clock?), that you should be more lenient on a team who is illegally trying to waste time?

                            Should we apply the same thinking and not call penalties in the last few minutes too?

                            Wait, hang on

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                            • voodooV voodoo

                              @Crucial this part is pretty funny "“I have little sympathy for someone running down the clock, but by the same token you would hope that the referee would have some feeling for the game.

                              “This isn't the first time a team has been penalised for time-wasting, but it's the first time it has happened at such a crucial time in such an important game.”"

                              The idea being that if the game is on the line (say, when you're leading by a few points with only 90 seconds left on the clock?), that you should be more lenient on a team who is illegally trying to waste time?

                              Should we apply the same thinking and not call penalties in the last few minutes too?

                              Wait, hang on

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                              #3444

                              @voodoo said in Aussie Rugby:

                              @Crucial this part is pretty funny "“I have little sympathy for someone running down the clock, but by the same token you would hope that the referee would have some feeling for the game.

                              “This isn't the first time a team has been penalised for time-wasting, but it's the first time it has happened at such a crucial time in such an important game.”"

                              The idea being that if the game is on the line (say, when you're leading by a few points with only 90 seconds left on the clock?), that you should be more lenient on a team who is illegally trying to waste time?

                              Should we apply the same thinking and not call penalties in the last few minutes too?

                              Wait, hang on

                              Barnes managed that theory for at least 30 minutes in one game I can't remember.

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                                https://twitter.com/BrumbiesRugby/status/1571987057328926721

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                                  #3446

                                  Australia 'A' squad for their Japan Tour.

                                  alt text

                                  https://wallabies.rugby/news/wallabies-headline-australia-a-squad-for-japan-tour-2022920


                                  Note that Darcy Swine has been named in that squad.

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                                    #3447

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                                    three of my boys have made the state squad, Rebels should have adopted the "Axemen", much cooler name

                                    edit: a few pretty unlucky i think considering we made the final

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                                      See the reserves:

                                      Jeriah Mua? As in BOP's former NZU20 and Hastings Boys' Jeriah Mua?

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        I think RA might be well advised to to ask their previous players and coaches to STFU with the damage they must be doing selling the game to the everyman as one completely unworthy of watching due to the rules. People will quote that shit in conversation and it just cements the position of number four in the code listing..

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/129925210/a-little-pipsqueak-from-paris-exwallabies-coach-alan-jones-blasts-french-ref-in-wider-tirade-on-rugby

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                                        @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        think RA might be well advised to to ask their previous players and coaches to STFU with the damage they must be doing selling the game to the everyman as one completely unworthy of watching due to the rules. People will quote that shit in conversation and it just cements the position of number four in the code listing..

                                        No such thing as bad publicity in a congested market

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                                          #3450

                                          Here is a good source of players to fill out the prospective 26 team Aussie National Championship squad rosters

                                          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/09/21/demise-two-great-clubs-crisis-rugby-cannot-waste/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

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