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  • barbarianB barbarian

    Is it to do with stadiums, Nick? What was Hore's explanation at the AGM?

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    @barbarian that's what I got told - couldn't make it to the AGM personally.

    Really struggling to get motivated for next year.

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      Seriously, Oz rugby seems set on it's own destruction - they should be using the pro side to support the amateur side and keep people in the game. Knobs.

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      • NTAN NTA

        @barbarian that's what I got told - couldn't make it to the AGM personally.

        Really struggling to get motivated for next year.

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        @nta Subbies clubs have to cough up extra cash whilst the Tahs get compensation for missing revenue (for seats they wouldn't sell anyway). Seems about right.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          Seriously, Oz rugby seems set on it's own destruction - they should be using the pro side to support the amateur side and keep people in the game. Knobs.

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          @nepia said in Aussie Rugby in general:

          Seriously, Oz rugby seems set on it's own destruction - they should be using the pro side to support the amateur side and keep people in the game. Knobs.

          This

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          • NTAN NTA

            Is it a win? :thinking:

            Well, that remains to be seen. She quit the Bulldogs after what appeared to be multiple years of fighting their Board. So at least she'll know what that feels like with RA.

            In the plus column is the fact the old boys' club has been broken to a degree. No more GPS boys in the top spot because of who they know.
            In the negative columns is the possibility this is tokenism from RA in order to distract from the stark shortcomings of the last decade.

            Either way, to me she looks capable, based on her history. I wish her the best of luck dealing with these ignorant, toffy fucktards.

            In other news: Subbies clubs here in Sydney are being asked to fork out an extra $360 per team in the event that the stadium knockdown/rebuild goes ahead. This will be collected at NSWRU level by Mr Andrew Hoare, another Kiwi who has done good things for the code during a shit time, and is highly respected here.

            For my little club, which will likely be in Fifth Division next year with First and Second Grade:

            $ 440 x 1 club affiliation fee for Suburban Rugby
            $ 650 x 2 Grades registration
            $1950 x 2 Grades insurance
            $1000 x 2 Grades Rugby Australia "participation fee/levy"
            $ 360 x 2 Grades NSWRU

            $8360 just to get two teams on the park. Good thing we have a heap of left over playing kit from last year, because even asking for $120 in rego fees its going to be tough to break even.

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            @nta $8300 just to enter two teams into an amateur competition?
            That’s just absolutely crazy!
            And then come the real costs of running a team.

            They need their heads read!

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            • GunnerG Gunner

              @nta $8300 just to enter two teams into an amateur competition?
              That’s just absolutely crazy!
              And then come the real costs of running a team.

              They need their heads read!

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              @gunner the insurance is a large part, and isn't worth much anyway. Its the "participation levy" that stings, and Subbies have it better than some comps where you pay by the player, not the grade entered.

              Has added 50% or more to some club registration fees for players.

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                For a First Division side with 5 Grades + Colts, its a fuckload of cash. $24K

                But some of them are asking players $400 in registration so I guess it works out. If I asked for $400 I wouldn't get anyone.

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                  https://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/12/13/12/07/australia-bidding-for-2027-rugby-world-cup

                  Outgoing Rugby Australia boss Bill Pulver has announced the governing body is bidding for the 2027 World Cup as well as the 2021 women's global showpiece.
                  
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                    https://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/12/13/12/07/australia-bidding-for-2027-rugby-world-cup

                    Outgoing Rugby Australia boss Bill Pulver has announced the governing body is bidding for the 2027 World Cup as well as the 2021 women's global showpiece.
                    
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                    @kiwimurph Makes sense - they need the injection of revenue it would bring. One wonders what they'd squander it on next time.

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                      Any reaction from that jackass Kearns to missing out on the job to a woman?

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @kiwimurph Makes sense - they need the injection of revenue it would bring. One wonders what they'd squander it on next time.

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                        @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                        @kiwimurph Makes sense - they need the injection of revenue it would bring. One wonders what they'd squander it on next time.

                        Last time around there was a very short lived attempt to provide more in the youth area after the RWC increased junior club enrolments. IIRC there were suddenly glossy booklets on training drills etc handed around.
                        It didn't last long, nor was it part of a well thought out strategy and pretty soon the Cup windfall was diverted into the pockets of the elite players and administrators.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @kiwimurph Makes sense - they need the injection of revenue it would bring. One wonders what they'd squander it on next time.

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                          @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                          @kiwimurph Makes sense - they need the injection of revenue it would bring. One wonders what they'd squander it on next time.

                          The economics have shifted since Australia won the 2003 hosting rights - between the hosting fee going up and public interest on a massive wane I'm not sure it is the slam dunk of a tournament you might think.

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                            I have just read an article by Andrew Webster about the appointment of Castle. Interesting to note that he mentions that Pocock was still being paid his $820K salary while taking a "gap year" to play rugby in Japan. If you are bleeding money it doesn't make sense to pay any player who is fit but isn't available to play for your national team.

                            That being said, I am sure BFA is still paid his NZR salary while on a sabbatical. The same for BBBR during his personal leave.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              I have just read an article by Andrew Webster about the appointment of Castle. Interesting to note that he mentions that Pocock was still being paid his $820K salary while taking a "gap year" to play rugby in Japan. If you are bleeding money it doesn't make sense to pay any player who is fit but isn't available to play for your national team.

                              That being said, I am sure BFA is still paid his NZR salary while on a sabbatical. The same for BBBR during his personal leave.

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                              @bovidae said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                              I have just read an article by Andrew Webster about the appointment of Castle. Interesting to note that he mentions that Pocock was still being paid his $820K salary while taking a "gap year" to play rugby in Japan. If you are bleeding money it doesn't make sense to pay any player who is fit but isn't available to play for your national team.

                              That being said, I am sure BFA is still paid his NZR salary while on a sabbatical. The same for BBBR during his personal leave.

                              They will be on their retainers but miss out on all of the extras.
                              As for Pocock that’s a crazy sum to start with

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                I have just read an article by Andrew Webster about the appointment of Castle. Interesting to note that he mentions that Pocock was still being paid his $820K salary while taking a "gap year" to play rugby in Japan. If you are bleeding money it doesn't make sense to pay any player who is fit but isn't available to play for your national team.

                                That being said, I am sure BFA is still paid his NZR salary while on a sabbatical. The same for BBBR during his personal leave.

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                                @bovidae said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                I have just read an article by Andrew Webster about the appointment of Castle. Interesting to note that he mentions that Pocock was still being paid his $820K salary while taking a "gap year" to play rugby in Japan. If you are bleeding money it doesn't make sense to pay any player who is fit but isn't available to play for your national team.

                                That being said, I am sure BFA is still paid his NZR salary while on a sabbatical. The same for BBBR during his personal leave.

                                Pocock spent some time playing in Japan didn't he? Wonder if he was getting paid twice during that period.

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                                • jeggaJ jegga

                                  Any reaction from that jackass Kearns to missing out on the job to a woman?

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                                  @jegga said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                  Any reaction from that jackass Kearns to missing out on the job to a woman?

                                  "Another Kiwi coming in from the side again...is that McCaw?"

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @bovidae said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                    I have just read an article by Andrew Webster about the appointment of Castle. Interesting to note that he mentions that Pocock was still being paid his $820K salary while taking a "gap year" to play rugby in Japan. If you are bleeding money it doesn't make sense to pay any player who is fit but isn't available to play for your national team.

                                    That being said, I am sure BFA is still paid his NZR salary while on a sabbatical. The same for BBBR during his personal leave.

                                    They will be on their retainers but miss out on all of the extras.
                                    As for Pocock that’s a crazy sum to start with

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                                    @crucial BBBR would be compassionate leave, so wouldnt think there'd be much 'extras' he would be denied

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                                      ABs get $7500 per week while in camp or on tour.

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                                        In camp. Match fees. Appearance fees etc

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                                          @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          @kiwimurph Makes sense - they need the injection of revenue it would bring. One wonders what they'd squander it on next time.

                                          The economics have shifted since Australia won the 2003 hosting rights - between the hosting fee going up and public interest on a massive wane I'm not sure it is the slam dunk of a tournament you might think.

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                                          @rotated said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          @kiwimurph Makes sense - they need the injection of revenue it would bring. One wonders what they'd squander it on next time.

                                          The economics have shifted since Australia won the 2003 hosting rights - between the hosting fee going up and public interest on a massive wane I'm not sure it is the slam dunk of a tournament you might think.

                                          No 'slam dunk' as they're unlikely to be defending world champions, but a healthy injection into the coffers regardless.

                                          @bovidae said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                          I have just read an article by Andrew Webster about the appointment of Castle. Interesting to note that he mentions that Pocock was still being paid his $820K salary while taking a "gap year" to play rugby in Japan. If you are bleeding money it doesn't make sense to pay any player who is fit but isn't available to play for your national team.

                                          That being said, I am sure BFA is still paid his NZR salary while on a sabbatical. The same for BBBR during his personal leave.

                                          Contrary to popular belief, Pocock isn't being paid while having a year off, it's just how he packaged his deal. Otherwise he would have been remunerated the same total value but across the two years he played.

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