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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    this is the problem, or possible problem with such a narrow structure, only five teams feeding into the international team...coaches, aussie has one teams thats doing ok...so the wallabies take the coach...we saw the same thing with cheika....then that coach doesnt have the support from beneath (because they were the only good one)...so they fail in the top job and go overseas

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      this is the problem, or possible problem with such a narrow structure, only five teams feeding into the international team...coaches, aussie has one teams thats doing ok...so the wallabies take the coach...we saw the same thing with cheika....then that coach doesnt have the support from beneath (because they were the only good one)...so they fail in the top job and go overseas

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      @Kiwiwomble generally correct. The complexity is that we don't have enough good coaching in Australia so we suffer from the tall poppy getting the gig.

      The lack of coordination across our franchises means any warehousing hurts the whole game e.g. why is Billy Pollard sitting at the Brumbies waiting for an opportunity when we could get him on the bench or starting somewhere else?

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          Not going then? Perfection that the presser was at Randwick, in terms of our current shitstorm where ex-Wallaby and current Randwick coach Steven Hoiles says club rugby is "pumping"

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            i dont pay the "short prep time" excuse...literally bought in on the idea he could do better with a short turn around than Rennie could with a full build up

            I think he got confused between what was needed for this RWC and the next one...theyre two different situations when coming in like he did

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              @Daffy-Jaffy said in Aussie Rugby:

              "We've got a lot of young players that are really going to benefit from the mental scars of not getting out of the group stage for the easiest run into a semi-final we could've asked for"

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                I'm sure Carter Gordon is in a good place

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                  Eddie

                  I’m not an administrator, so I don’t know how to do it. I’m just a basic coach. I go out there with a whistle, blow the whistle, yell and scream, put my arm around the player every now and then. So I can’t tell you how to do that and I won’t try to tell you how to do it – it’s for smarter people than me.

                  Later same interview

                  My commitment is to put Australia in a better place, and you’ve got to have things operating to put it in a better place, and part of it is making sure we get better alignment. I’ve got to help drive that with the CEO and the chairman

                  Also, same guy talking with his changed narrative of lions/27 RWC

                  The national coach looks after today but there’s a need for someone to be strategic about planning what’s needed for Australian rugby to be sustainably successful, and that’s where you need a high performance director

                  Um you should have picked a more experienced squad, if you're looking after today

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                    Eddie

                    I’m not an administrator, so I don’t know how to do it. I’m just a basic coach. I go out there with a whistle, blow the whistle, yell and scream, put my arm around the player every now and then. So I can’t tell you how to do that and I won’t try to tell you how to do it – it’s for smarter people than me.

                    Later same interview

                    My commitment is to put Australia in a better place, and you’ve got to have things operating to put it in a better place, and part of it is making sure we get better alignment. I’ve got to help drive that with the CEO and the chairman

                    Also, same guy talking with his changed narrative of lions/27 RWC

                    The national coach looks after today but there’s a need for someone to be strategic about planning what’s needed for Australian rugby to be sustainably successful, and that’s where you need a high performance director

                    Um you should have picked a more experienced squad, if you're looking after today

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                    @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                    Also, same guy talking with his changed narrative of lions/27 RWC

                    The national coach looks after today but there’s a need for someone to be strategic about planning what’s needed for Australian rugby to be sustainably successful, and that’s where you need a high performance director

                    Um you should have picked a more experienced squad, if you're looking after today

                    That's Eddie telling us if he's going to stick around, it's as the High Performance Director.

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                      @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                      Also, same guy talking with his changed narrative of lions/27 RWC

                      The national coach looks after today but there’s a need for someone to be strategic about planning what’s needed for Australian rugby to be sustainably successful, and that’s where you need a high performance director

                      Um you should have picked a more experienced squad, if you're looking after today

                      That's Eddie telling us if he's going to stick around, it's as the High Performance Director.

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                      @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                      Also, same guy talking with his changed narrative of lions/27 RWC

                      The national coach looks after today but there’s a need for someone to be strategic about planning what’s needed for Australian rugby to be sustainably successful, and that’s where you need a high performance director

                      Um you should have picked a more experienced squad, if you're looking after today

                      That's Eddie telling us if he's going to stick around, it's as the High Performance Director.

                      No, he also said that's not his bag baby, he wants to be a hands-on coach.

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                        #4201

                        Phil Waugh on radio - doesn't really sound like he is backing Eddie much.

                        https://omny.fm/shows/the-drive-program/exclusive-rugby-australia-ceo-takes-on-tough-quest

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                          @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                          @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                          Also, same guy talking with his changed narrative of lions/27 RWC

                          The national coach looks after today but there’s a need for someone to be strategic about planning what’s needed for Australian rugby to be sustainably successful, and that’s where you need a high performance director

                          Um you should have picked a more experienced squad, if you're looking after today

                          That's Eddie telling us if he's going to stick around, it's as the High Performance Director.

                          No, he also said that's not his bag baby, he wants to be a hands-on coach.

                          171b33ea-eb86-4645-bb5f-8d43af2ad3f1-image.png

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                          @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                          No, he also said that's not his bag baby, he wants to be a hands-on coach.

                          But doesn't agree to centralisation 🙄

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                            I thought a good article

                            https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/10/19/sizzling-world-cup-quarter-finals-showed-australia-the-level-to-aspire-to-and-the-burning-questions-they-must-answer/

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                              That me:

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                                Cully makes some good points

                                https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1715167601767424490?t=x-aleoqfriB3H9HgIbi-TA&s=19

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                                  Daffy Jaffy
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                                    Again: he makes a couple of good points, particularly about the Islander guys getting screwed.

                                    Utterly wrong about ranking based on pools from previous RWC. What a stupid idea.

                                    He has never failed to express the need for himself to get involved. And sure, we lack basic skills, but mate that is from schools onward. Schools fucks the system.

                                    When he says "no money for grassroots", he means "no money for shitty club rugby".

                                    It is funny that he says "we never got paid" - he was on the take from well before '95 🤣

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                                      Scrums are just for feeding the backline. Sounds like Matt Burke's commentary aka "Get It To The Wing"

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                                        Bloody hell. Never watch the news, but was at parents while 7 news was on. Not a word about the RWC. Report on NZ vs Samoa league game but nothing about NZ vs Argentina. That isn't good.

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                                          Bloody hell. Never watch the news, but was at parents while 7 news was on. Not a word about the RWC. Report on NZ vs Samoa league game but nothing about NZ vs Argentina. That isn't good.

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                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          7 news

                                          What news? Australian, why would they give a shit

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