Aussie Pro Rugby
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@Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:
Why would any non-Australian coach be interested if McLennan still wants some control? And before someone says the money, RA doesn't have any.
One would only have to look at recent history for how the rugby community in Australia treats Kiwis to stay clear anyway.
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:
Why would any non-Australian coach be interested if McLennan still wants some control? And before someone says the money, RA doesn't have any.
One would only have to look at recent history for how the rugby community in Australia treats Kiwis to stay clear anyway.
Was going to say the samething. There is a group in Oz Rugby's Administration (Philr Kurns being one) who hate Kiwi's and blame them for everything that's wrong with OZ rugby.
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Deluded.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
If you failed you were obviously in over your head
What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning
Madness
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
If you failed you were obviously in over your head
What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning
Madness
@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
I don't understand many things about corporations, from middle management upwards.
Only that they don't like the word "problem" in favour of the term "challenge".
And they have an ungodly obsession with "learnings" despite no visible improvement to their understanding.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
If you failed you were obviously in over your head
What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning
Madness
@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
If you failed you were obviously in over your head
What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning
Madness
It's bizarre isn't it. If a tradesman does a God awful job on your home, you never hire them again because they've proven to be shit at what they do. You don't hire them again thinking that their abject failure has given them experience and thus made them better at what they do.
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@MiketheSnow said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
They have some money. Enough to pay pretty nicely.
And ultimately it's still a prestige job. You'd be coming in at rock bottom with a Lions tour and home World Cup on the horizon. It's not the worst sales pitch.
Exactly - if expectations are "better than 2023" then you can't lose!
Once you've had an international coaching gig, getting another one is easier. Like being a CEO: you can be the biggest fuckup in the room, but you've still got that on your resume so C-suite jobs are much easier.
Which I've never understood
If you failed you were obviously in over your head
What makes organisations think that the drowning man/woman learned to swim whilst he/she was drowning
Madness
It's bizarre isn't it. If a tradesman does a God awful job on your home, you never hire them again because they've proven to be shit at what they do. You don't hire them again thinking that their abject failure has given them experience and thus made them better at what they do.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel but that tradie will still get work somewhere else. Lot of houses before your Google reviews catch up with you.
And that ex-CEO will sue your board for slander if you don't give him glowing reviews.
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@Rancid-Schnitzel but that tradie will still get work somewhere else. Lot of houses before your Google reviews catch up with you.
And that ex-CEO will sue your board for slander if you don't give him glowing reviews.
I think you've missed the point a bit there Nick.
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Deluded.
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
Deluded.
Shifty as fuck, utterly shameless. Bit of a tool, isn't he
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@Rancid-Schnitzel but that tradie will still get work somewhere else. Lot of houses before your Google reviews catch up with you.
And that ex-CEO will sue your board for slander if you don't give him glowing reviews.
I think you've missed the point a bit there Nick.
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@bayimports said in Aussie Rugby:
this was pretty good
https://www.afr.com/rear-window/the-self-pity-party-of-hamish-mclennan-20231030-p5eg1q
So the system is at fault not the guy who seems to have taken it on himself to make the captain's call regards Rennie/Eddie (maybe I am wrong, was it the entire board who decided?)
This guy sounds the worst.
Speaking of international coaches who will coach anywhere, what is John Mitchell doing?
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@bayimports said in Aussie Rugby:
this was pretty good
https://www.afr.com/rear-window/the-self-pity-party-of-hamish-mclennan-20231030-p5eg1q
So the system is at fault not the guy who seems to have taken it on himself to make the captain's call regards Rennie/Eddie (maybe I am wrong, was it the entire board who decided?)
This guy sounds the worst.
Speaking of international coaches who will coach anywhere, what is John Mitchell doing?
@nostrildamus absolutely it is amazing the lack of accountability at the top
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@nostrildamus absolutely it is amazing the lack of accountability at the top
@bayimports said in Aussie Rugby:
@nostrildamus absolutely it is amazing the lack of accountability at the top
There is no accountability in corporate.
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@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@Rancid-Schnitzel but that tradie will still get work somewhere else. Lot of houses before your Google reviews catch up with you.
And that ex-CEO will sue your board for slander if you don't give him glowing reviews.
I think you've missed the point a bit there Nick.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Rugby:
@NTA said in Aussie Rugby:
@Rancid-Schnitzel but that tradie will still get work somewhere else. Lot of houses before your Google reviews catch up with you.
And that ex-CEO will sue your board for slander if you don't give him glowing reviews.
I think you've missed the point a bit there Nick.
If you're talking Eddie, then of course I get your point.
I'm speaking more generally about the system that allows fucking up at the highest level with no visible consequences.
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@bayimports said in Aussie Rugby:
this was pretty good
https://www.afr.com/rear-window/the-self-pity-party-of-hamish-mclennan-20231030-p5eg1q
So the system is at fault not the guy who seems to have taken it on himself to make the captain's call regards Rennie/Eddie (maybe I am wrong, was it the entire board who decided?)
This guy sounds the worst.
Speaking of international coaches who will coach anywhere, what is John Mitchell doing?
@nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:
Speaking of international coaches who will coach anywhere, what is John Mitchell doing?
Red Roses I think
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@nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:
"Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again."
Sensationally?
I guess the previous time they made the semis wasn't sensational enough, given that the author has obviously forgotten all about it
@GibbonRib said in Aussie Rugby:
@nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:
"Cheika meanwhile sensationally took Argentina to the semi-finals of the World Cup for the first time and has never hidden his desire to coach the Wallabies again."
Sensationally?
I guess the previous time they made the semis wasn't sensational enough, given that the author has obviously forgotten all about it
It's corect because it's the first time Cheika took them to the semis...
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More of this will help the grassroots of the game.
@mikedogz said in Aussie Rugby:
More of this will help the grassroots of the game.
Smart move, capitalising on the fact that the private school rugby scene in Melbourne is smallish compared to AFL.
Further, you are going to get a lot more Pasifika kids at public schools because - like Western Sydney - the outer suburbs in particular are that demographic.
Further, it seems from that video that they're connecting local schools players with junior clubs. What a profound concept
My local schools don't even know our club exists, despite multiple attempts to contact them.So I'm burning a few hundred in Facebook advertising and my own time putting video together to get the message out there....
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@nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:
Speaking of international coaches who will coach anywhere, what is John Mitchell doing?
Red Roses I think
@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
@nostrildamus said in Aussie Rugby:
Speaking of international coaches who will coach anywhere, what is John Mitchell doing?
Red Roses I think
Yes, he is currently in New Zealand with the team (as an observer) before he takes up new role at the end of this tournament.
